Does it bother you at all that we are overpopulating the Earth?

[Internet Kraken]

Poor people make so many babies. Like it or not, "we" aren't overpopulating the earth, "they" are. Iran, pakistan, the 'nesias, all of africa... its a mess of a baby boom over there.

And they aren't the ones who are wasting a gross amount of resources. We're a far bigger problem than they are.

 

[viking97]

I've got the simplest solution.

Undead don't need food. Undead don't need massive living spaces. And for your benefit, the undead don't even feel pain (although we can implant those nerves if you really want them).

necromancy is always the solution. i don't think zombies can breed either, so there you go.

 

[Aprilgold]

EPIC COMIC! What comic is that by the way?

Oh, overpopulation, its not overpopulation, its that some people don't want to share food with other parts of the world. Hell, once it is a problem, I'll probably be dead, thats just epic.

 

[JoJo]

Not to be mean or anything:

The western world is not overpopulating the world.
1.4 children don't do that.

This. In the West we don't have problems with overpopulation, we need more children if anything to tackle the ageing population. It's my human right to have as many children as I can support and any government that tries to restrict that has lost my vote forever.

 

[pulse2]

Sums it up.

Personally, I'm never going to have kids, but that wont stop me from calling OP and everyone who agrees with em a tosser. Learn something about sociology before saying stupid shit like this and giving credible individuals in your chosen field of idiocy a bad name.

You know, I'm all for having a difference in opinion, but to go as far to simply brand it idiocy and move on makes the individual stating so no less of just that.

I'm not painting doom and gloom, I'm just making a point based on looking at the rising numbers of the human race in general and by looking at how we are coping as a race, there are some very valid points that go against what I've said that I don't feel a need to contest because they have relevance, I just picked up on your point (If I can even call it that) because its more of a personal attack. I don't know if that is how you argue in all of your debates, but keep your negative attitude to yourself. If you disagree, disagree, but state why. I wouldn't have brought up the topic if I didn't have something to base it on -_-

Besides, there are already parts of the world that can't handle population increases and other parts of the world where 1 child policies are in place, need I mention examples of these two for you who apprently is an expect in the feild of sociology and not so dumb beyond your comment about me being a tosser to not recognise that for yourself.

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On to other matters, there is evidence that population rates in modern places are decreasing, but the human race as a whole is increasing.

The reason I even brought this up is because I was looking at an article titled 'Places to visit before they vanish forever', many of these places have nothing to do with us, nature taking its course, global warming (whatever your opinions on that are, true or false) and other causes, but one in particular caught my eye, it was the Amazon rainforest in Brazil, it contributes to 20% of the oxygen we breathe on Earth and its gradually being cut down. Who are we to tell Brazilians what to do and what not to do? After all, we all live in developed industrial cities doing well and that is just what they aspire to do as well, so its hypocritical to tell them to stop destroying the amazon rainforests as they need it to build and for farming etc.

It just made me think that will there be a point where we are living too long, or having too many babies, in the same way that releasing a new animal into a place it has never been before could be detrimental to other species.

I suppose we could say that we could just find and move to another planet, but there are even astronomers who say that probably won't happen any time soon, its a headache just getting to the moon, let alone a planet in a different solar system :/ Even then, whos to say that we wouldn't have to trample on another species probably similar to our own in order to live on that planet. Back on topic, I'd say it would obviously be against our rights to initiate a 1 child policy, especially if we have never experienced such a thing and believe in democracy, but will there potentially be a time when that will have to become a MUST?

 

[FamoFunk]

Not it doesn't, I've already helped by having a child.

 

[Cheesezorz]

People worry about things too much. Just let the nature eventually take care of it with a nice little disease.

 

[azurine]

greatly. we don't even need half the people.

although fixing the problem probably isn't a good idea either, it'd involve genocide.

 

[Wintermoot]

we could always build Space Colonies
also we aren't really overpopulating the earth allot of habitable ares are still uninhabited.

 

[Woodsey]

Isn't the population in Europe in decline?

And without sounding very clinical, I imagine countries where the birth rate is a lot higher are also ones where the people are unlikely to live past an age that we would consider young anyway.

 

[pulse2]

Sums it up.

Personally, I'm never going to have kids, but that wont stop me from calling OP and everyone who agrees with em a tosser. Learn something about sociology before saying stupid shit like this and giving credible individuals in your chosen field of idiocy a bad name.

You know, I'm all for having a difference in opinion, but to go as far to simply brand it idiocy and move on makes the individual stating so no less of just that.

I'm not painting doom and gloom, I'm just making a point based on looking at the rising numbers of the human race in general and by looking at how we are coping as a race, there are some very valid points that go against what I've said that I don't feel a need to contest because they have relevance, I just picked up on your point (If I can even call it that) because its more of a personal attack. I don't know if that is how you argue in all of your debates, but keep your negative attitude to yourself. If you disagree, disagree, but state why. I wouldn't have brought up the topic if I didn't have something to base it on -_-

Besides, there are already parts of the world that can't handle population increases and other parts of the world where 1 child policies are in place, need I mention examples of these two for you who apprently is an expect in the feild of sociology are not so dumb beyond your comment about me being a tosser to not recognise that for yourself.

Oh no! Some is personally attacking your stupid opinion! On the internet! D= Woe befall onto you and your horrible situati- pfffhaha ok, I can't do it, you're a silly person XP

Yup, and it's clear to see you are the epitome of 'intelligence' right there, congrats. How you managed to even think up generic insults is a question in itself

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I'd hate to seem racist, but over here in California, the people who have the most kids are the Mexicans and the African Americans.

They are generally low income and may even be receiving assistance from the government.

For whatever reason, they don't use birth control and just have a lot of kids.

So the people who have no business having a lot of kids, are the ones who are doing it.

To be honest, poverty does have a large part to play in this arguement, so I don't consider that to be a racist point in the slightest. You'll find most of the poverty stricken parts of the world are where the most children are born, there isn't much to do about that situation and the numbers keep increasing with lesser quantities of resources to sustain that.

Death rates are highest in these places, but birth rates are even higher, at least if they were equal, it would be a little easier to handle.

I think Chinese have dealt with their overpopulation problem by immigrating to other countries where they are entitled to have more children when they feel like it, but what's to stop other countries possibly reaching that state.

Funny enough, when you actually go to china, the main cities give off the impression there are too many people, but the country and rural areas don't :/

Isn't the population in Europe in decline?

And without sounding very clinical, I imagine countries where the birth rate is a lot higher are also ones where the people are unlikely to live past an age that we would consider young anyway.

Not sure about the whole of EU, I know that UK is, there are more old people then we know what to do with :/ We also seem to be amongst the EU countries with the longest life span.

 

[viranimus]

greatly. we don't even need half the people.

although fixing the problem probably isn't a good idea either, it'd involve genocide.

Not fixing the problem is infinitely worse. Also, It wouldn't have to involve genocide. There are several ways of doing it that involve no death. Granted it would take a generation to start feeling the effects, but ideas such as forced sterilization based upon agreed upon requirements could do this, without anyone having to die.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

What the hell is with the Malthusianism around here recently?

OT: No, it doesn't bother me in the slightest, we always manage to come through by developing more technology to help sustain our life. The whole idea is that we use the Earth to live, that's what every other animal is doing and they aren't as smart as humans.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Isn't the population in Europe in decline?

And without sounding very clinical, I imagine countries where the birth rate is a lot higher are also ones where the people are unlikely to live past an age that we would consider young anyway.

This is correct, which is why it bothers me when people say overpopulation is the problem. Over-consumption is a far bigger issue.

Projecting much? I called you silly. You must be really insecure to be combing through things for the slimmest excuses for what could be misconstrued as insults at this point.

I find that, in general, the ones who call other people idiots for their opinions are the most insecure.

 

[Formica Archonis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_fertility_rate

Canada 1.51 1.58

Apparently I'm NOT overpopulating the world, given that I'm in a country with less than 2.1 children born per woman.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

There are plenty of resources and space if we build up. The problem is bad resource management, not using resources sustainably, not using sustainable material(ie we need a plastic substitute), better allocation and distribution of resources. Also can people stop using the term save the planet when it comes to anything like this or the environment. Planet Earth will still be here after all plant life and human life etc is gone. It makes people seem like hippies to say it that way and it doesn't hit home properly. It is not the Earth we are saving it is us and our food. So if you like your bacon you know what to do.

 

[crystalsnow]

NEVER. WTS 50 babies pm offers.

OT: Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it now, but be more focused on what we're going to do when we run out of petroleum or how to improve economic stability.

 

[blankedboy]

I believe that one day natural selection will be reinstated and on that day there will be a lot of darwin awards to hand out.

I call that Counter-Strike: Source one!

Ontopic, the world fertility rate is 2.5 and on a decline so we should safen up in a decade or two. That's not to say it isn't a HUGE problem.

 

[pulse2]

Sums it up.

Personally, I'm never going to have kids, but that wont stop me from calling OP and everyone who agrees with em a tosser. Learn something about sociology before saying stupid shit like this and giving credible individuals in your chosen field of idiocy a bad name.

You know, I'm all for having a difference in opinion, but to go as far to simply brand it idiocy and move on makes the individual stating so no less of just that.

I'm not painting doom and gloom, I'm just making a point based on looking at the rising numbers of the human race in general and by looking at how we are coping as a race, there are some very valid points that go against what I've said that I don't feel a need to contest because they have relevance, I just picked up on your point (If I can even call it that) because its more of a personal attack. I don't know if that is how you argue in all of your debates, but keep your negative attitude to yourself. If you disagree, disagree, but state why. I wouldn't have brought up the topic if I didn't have something to base it on -_-

Besides, there are already parts of the world that can't handle population increases and other parts of the world where 1 child policies are in place, need I mention examples of these two for you who apprently is an expect in the feild of sociology are not so dumb beyond your comment about me being a tosser to not recognise that for yourself.

Oh no! Some is personally attacking your stupid opinion! On the internet! D= Woe befall onto you and your horrible situati- pfffhaha ok, I can't do it, you're a silly person XP

Yup, and it's clear to see you are the epitome of 'intelligence' right there, congrats. How you managed to even think up generic insults is a question in itself

Projecting much? I called you silly. You must be really insecure to be combing through things for the slimmest excuses for what could be misconstrued as insults at this point.

It doesn't suprise me that you've forgotten that you called me and anyone who happens to agree somewhat with me a tosser and an idiot. I also find it hilarious that you say I'm insecure, why? Because I called you out for your reply? Right... For a sociology expert, you're pretty clueless :/

What the hell is with the Malthusianism around here recently?

OT: No, it doesn't bother me in the slightest, we always manage to come through by developing more technology to help sustain our life. The whole idea is that we use the Earth to live, that's what every other animal is doing and they aren't as smart as humans.

You have a good point, but I wouldn't say that were are many other animals that have as much an impact on this Earth as we do as humans, just because of that very thing, intelligence. We have the ability to keep ourselves alive longer and healthier (when we want to that is), we also have the abilty to destroy in mass quantity and travel anywhere we like, building anywhere we like, so it's difficult to compare ourselves to say...a lion.

Heck, if the number of lions started increasing in the world so much so that they outnumbered us, I think we'd take it upon ourselves to cut them down, just to ensure we are less likely to be eaten or mauled, lol

I think the only creatures to outnumber us are insects, IF there is any one type of insect that is frequent across the entire Earth, not just ALL insects as one category.

Earth does have a way of trimming down our numbers as people have stated, so that's a point.