Does it really make you "less of a gamer?"

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Daedalus1942

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Chancie said:
Alrighty Escapists, I have an idea to present to you. My friend and I got into a huge debate today and to be honest, it didn't really go anywhere...but this is what it was about.

He had said that if you start a game and don't finish it (unless it was just a bad game, then it's justifiable), then you cannot call yourself a gamer. So, if you get to a boss and it's like a brick wall so you give up on the game, you are not a gamer. If you simply develop a waning interest, you are not a gamer. If you are distracted by another game and play it without finishing the one you already started, you are not a gamer. You get the idea.

He also said that if you do not strive for 100% completion and all trophies (if it's PS3) in a game, you are not a gamer.

By his standard, I might as well play Cooking Mama or something. I've "dropped" games before for one reason or another, though I have gone back and finished some of them later. As far as completion goes, I rarely do it. It's nice for people that have a bunch of time, I guess but I get no extra satisfaction out of a game knowing I have all the items, weapons, outfits, or what-have-you. The only time I really do that is if I finished a game much quicker than I had expected and am not ready to be "done" with it yet, meaning I really like it.

(But the games like Final Fantasy and stuff? Those take forever to get full completion! I don't have the patience for all that.)

Just curious. What do you all say?
If you do not finish all of the games you own/start, are you "less of a gamer?"
If you do not get 100% completion in a game, are you "less of a gamer?"
Ask me that same question when I finish the 35 or so games I'm currently playing at once (no i'm not listing them all).
 

Tireseas_v1legacy

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The answer is "no, unlike you and your fellow 'gamers,' I have enough shit to do that I can't devote an extra few hours to complete every game I've come across."
 

Flying-Emu

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That's idiotic.

You play games to have fun, not to beat them. Who the fuck thinks that you have to beat a game to be a gamer?

So is Animal Crossing somehow less of a game because it never ends? What about WoW?
 

WilliamWhite1

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Just because you cannot complete a game does not make you less of a gamer.
It makes you more particular, and perhaps less willing to see a game through, but it does not make you less of a gamer.

Just because I have not completed the 'story' mode of COD does not mean I am any less of a gamer. It means I enjoy other things more. Like multiplayer.

It's foolish to think that one must strive for full completion to be considered a true gamer.

I could call people who DO strive for completion hardcore (or to use a negative connotation, boring).
 

efrim

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Totally insane perspective. Completionist is the word for him. A sub-set of gamers sure, but certainly not the only genuine kind.
 

Pyromanaical

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It's hard to finish EVERY game and achieve EVERY objective in certain games. Your friend needs to get a life.
 

Triskadancer

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Wow. Your friend sounds like kind of a douche. I mean, if he wants to beat and complete every single game he owns, good for him, but that isn't fun for everyone, and games are intended to be (gasp) FUN. Hell, I didn't finish Majora's Mask until several years after I bought it, even though it's an awesome game, because it was too hard for me when I was younger- but I don't think it makes me "less" of a gamer or Zelda fan or whatever. And I play Pokemon but God knows I don't actually try to complete the Pokedex.

You play as long as a game is fun for you, then stop. People who force themselves to 100% completion are fine so long as they don't look down on others who don't play the same way.
 

Slayer_2

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How can you NOT complete a game, even if it's total ass? Same goes for every movie and book. I just "watched" "The Day After" a few gays ago. It's probably the worst 80's nuclear apocalypse movie of all time.
 

Sven und EIN HUND

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I think he's being elitist... I've played oblivion for ages on many different characters, but I've never actually completed the main quest line. Why? I get bored and play some other game. I'm probably going to complete it with the character I'm working on now, I might not. It doesn't matter. I'm still a gamer. Because I game.
 

MetallicaRulez0

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Chancie said:
He also said that if you do not strive for 100% completion and all trophies (if it's PS3) in a game, you are not a gamer.
Seriously? I'd much rather be online killing noobs than doing some silly shenanigans in a single-player just for some meaningless points underneath my gamertag.
 

DoomyMcDoom

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I've met people like that... if they focus too much on gaming completionism they end up alone when they die... not too happy a fate. tell him that, do him a favor and open his eyes to reality, completionists are great when they're neurosurgeons or in a general medical profession... or y'know hardware manufacture... or things that just don't bloody work if you don't perfect them to the extent of your being... but if you strive that hard in your free time, on your hobby, everyone will end up treating you like a nutcase... gotta be able to just let stuff slide, and chill on your off time, so you have more energy elsewhere...

so no not being a completionist does not mean you aren't a gamer. I would suggest quite the opposite, as the life of a gamer is never quite complete, and thus it's impossible to be both.
 

GamingAwesome1

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No.....being a gamer is simply about liking games and playing them.

I do go for max gamerscore and 100% completion because I really only do that with games I like and I feel proud of my accomplishment.

Peh, your friend has abit of a misguided view on being a gamer. Give him a copy of Ninja Gaiden 2 and see if he can 100% that!
 

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
A gamer is someone who plays games not someone who beats games, tell your friend to go to a Linux convention, his retarded elitism will be welcome there.
[i/]OH SNAP I JUST STARTED A PC FLAME WAR EVERYONE GET INTO BATTLE POSITIONS![/i]
 

Pegghead

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That is absolute horse shit, I enjoy lots of fun variety in my gaming experiences, and I hate to say it, but people who absolutely, positively strive to complete every teeny little aspect of a game (I.E, playing a game over and over again 'til all the fun is washed away in order to get some stupid, worthless prize *I.E Tofu mode in resident evil 3*) either have extremely empty lives, are very determined and/or obsessive compulsive or have no more games to play, either due to releases or not enough cash in the kitty (0_0). And there are quite a few games I haven't finished. Mainly because they got so repetetive and I just didn't want to see what happened at the end, or what challenge awaited me next. Your friend is probably just lording over the fact that (By my assumption in his statement) he plays his games down to the T, and by wasting his life enduring the same old crap, he wants to make it out like that somehow makes him better than other gamers.
 

Thaius

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Well, I guess it depends on why you play. For instance, if you play for competitive gaming, one may not finish Gears of War because he plays the multiplayer all the time. Does that make him less of a gamer? No, because he is being faithful to the reason he plays games. Some people, on the other hand, play games for the story (myself included). This definitely involves beating most of the games we play (not all though, since some games just aren't worth beating, like a movie you walk out on: and that's fine). Some people simply play games for fun.

A gamer is someone who commits themselves to one or more aspects of gaming as a sport or as an art. They are still a gamer even if they don't fulfill the part they aren't as passionate about.
 

EscapeGoat_v1legacy

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Of course it doesn't make you any less of a gamer. Games are just a fun little distraction, if you want to quit and pick up at any time then there's no problem with that.

To be completely honest, your friend sounds like an elitist, and a bit of an idiot. Ignore =his remarks and get on with enjoying games however you want.
 

WolfThomas

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Being a gamer is about playing games, "play" not "work". If it's not fun why keep doing it? Life short enough to waste while working let alone to get yourself stressed over perfecting the game.

The way I see it all gaming is casual (except for those on in a millions who get paid for it) and I am not wasting my time on something not fun.

That said, just because something is challenging doesn't mean you should immediately quit, some of the hardest rounds I've ever played of, say Company of Heroes, were the best I've played.