Eh, to be fair, the video of him walking down the ramp, for THAT at least, I feel like giving him the benefit of the doubt. My back gives me problems, and it's made me hyper aware of slopes, and if my heel slips, i could spill and really hurt my back. So ramps like that, at that angle, without any actual handrail, would be the kind of thing I'd be slightly guarded in my gait while walking down. Especially if I was wearing dress shoes, which are notorious for shitty traction. I mean I'm only 43 and I am somewhat cautious about that kind of thing, he's in his 70s. So the walking down the ramp thing, THAT, I really don't think is that weird. I think the way he talks, confuses words, and seems to have hand/motor problems when drinking are more evidence of medical problems to be honest. But a dude in his 70s, taking care as he walks down a ramp where he might be uncertain of his footing? *shrugs* I mean I've guided elderly people along paths that were stupidly simple to cover for ME as a whipper snapper, but for them, it was a significant obstacle. So yeah, the walking thing....meh. His everything else?! Yeah.
Does Trump have a motor disorder?
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If Stalin wanted Europe he would have had Europe, and there wasn't a damn thing anyone in any country west of Poland would have been able to say or do about it. There's a reason NATO doctrine in eastern Europe has always been "try to delay Russia long enough for the nukes to get on their way" and between '45-49 "we don't have enough nukes to actually stop the Red Army".
I'm pretty sure people living in literally every country in Latin-America might disagree.
So the Fulda Gap doesn't exist, and if it did, there certainly wouldn't have been a buildup of sub-kiloton nuclear mines, demolition charges, mortars, and guided missiles along it for the express purpose of force multiplication and area denial to negate numerical and materiel advantages enjoyed by the Soviet Union. Ramstein AFB, positioned as it was neatly at the terminator of this strategically-important corridor that doesn't actually exist and exceptionally well-protected behind multiple armored, mechanized, and infantry divisions, was just the largest US nuclear stockpile in Europe for lulz.
You mean after the first Red Scare, right?
Just never mind the decade of US-led and -supported sanctions combined with targeted manipulation by Gulf states of global oil prices.
How's the literacy, life expectancy, and infant mortality rates in the country the USSR went so far as to put nukes in stack up against the US nowadays? And I mean the real ones, the ones NGO's unaffiliated with state governments or the UN report, not the ones the State Department and intelligence agencies vomit forth by changing criteria.
While that might be true, having a weird, or not-entirely-functional body shouldn't be a limiting factor to the office of the president. That's one thing I've had an issue with in recent years, from how people will insanely scrutinize small physiological details about political figures, and be like "ARE THEY FIT TO LEAD?!?!" And I'm just like "I mean, is the thing you think they have wrong with them at ALL capable of impacting their brain and thus the only part really important to the job? No? Then who cares?" Age wears down a body, people in their 60s+ start to develop problems, and people in their 70s even more so. Like my mom has hand tremors, and they are visibly noticeable to anyone around her. But she just didn't notice them. She got them looked at, and it's nothing serious, and everything else about her is perfectly fine. So the fact that the woman who is in charge of Germany had a session of tremors while she was standing outside doesn't really bother me, and the fact that Trump took his time, and carefully walked down a ramp that he maybe wasn't sure on his footing about, equally doesn't bother me. What DOES bother me is the shit he spouts on Twitter, and in public, and all the other clearly troubling signs that he's a fucking idiot and narcissistic ego-maniac.
That's true. But I think the implication is that either they're not sound of mind enough to do the job or that they might cark it partway in leaving you with the vice president nobody voted for.
Again, unless the conditions in question effect mental faculties, it's not something that should limit someone from holding the office. FDR was in a wheelchair, with a very serious disease that seriously limited his physical abilities, but he was able to do the job just fine. Because the job isn't reliant on physical prowess.
And yes, someone dying mid-term isn't ideal, but that's the whole point of the VP. If the condition isn't life threatening, or capable of compromising their mental faculties, I don't see it as an issue. We've had good leaders in the past who were not physical ideals, the same rule should be applied across the board.
Again, I personally think it's a moot point in regards to Trump, as I think there is ample evidence that there is something wrong with him mentally, I just don't think it has anything to do with if he hobbled down a ramp.
It wasn't to delay Russia long enough for the nukes to get outbound, it was a series of strategic deployments meant to blunt the momentum of a Warsaw Pact offensive pending retaliatory deployment of CRBN assets consistent with mutually-assured destruction doctrine!
You're right, it just so happened to be a series of oddly-timed popular revolts against aristocratic and colonial governments, that just so happened to all occur around the time socialist revolutions and labor conflicts just so happened to be occurring elsewhere up to and including within the United States, and the pro-industrialist, pro-imperial, and pro-capital political interests in Western countries just so happened to be anti-communist.
Have you two seriously derailed a thread about Trump's physical problems into some historical debate that is apparently referencing video games to try and prove your points about the political machinations of the soviet union from decades ago?
I mean, seriously, this thread isn't even 3 pages long and it's already completely off topic.
I mean, seriously, this thread isn't even 3 pages long and it's already completely off topic.
Why ruin their fun? I'm learning more from their conversation than from futile gossip on whether Trump is mentally impaired.
I don't think you're really able to diagnose people from afar like that. Especially from just a little movement here and there and especially with someone like Trump to whom everything is falsity and performance
What? You mean you don't come into threads hoping for a derailing discussion? Those are the best ones!
MAD wasn't a doctrine, it was a thing that influenced everyone's doctrine.
Not sure how important that actually is. Anyone suspecting he might be medically unfit to be PotUS that's also suspecting he's not unfit for many other reasons?
Mmm I get what you're saying, the most important thing to a leader is the mind not the body for sure. Hell I've had a hand tremor all my life if in some bizzare turn events I ran for office everybody would be saying the same thing about me noticing my hand shake and thinking I'm dieing, even though I'm fit I mean I lift weights and do labouring work.
But I don't quite agree with not thinking its an issue they might die mid term. I think that's a pretty big deal in a democracy where leaders are supposed to be chosen by the vote.
And I do like seeing fitness in our leaders, because it indicates discipline, of course you can be perfectly disciplined and either not so focused on fitness or have health issues that get in the way. Its not important but its a good sign, one of the most obvious ways to figure out how a person lives when you look at them.
No, you just don't want to admit the doctrine in eastern Europe was to hold the Soviets long enough to get the nukes outbound, and you're trying to bullshit your way around it with more verbose, yet still synonymous, excuses. The rocket didn't explode, it experienced a rapid unscheduled disassembly event caused by catastrophic failure of its engine assembly, resulting in a spontaneous thermal excursion. You're only bringing up MAD to change the subject and hoping I don't notice.
Because the Soviet Union had a giant fucking army that was better-equipped and better-supplied until about the mid-'60s or so, and if Stalin (who died in '53, rendering discussion of this beyond that point largely moot as we're discussing the origins of the Cold War) wanted Europe there wasn't a goddamn thing any person west of Poland could do about it without making it rain nukes.
Which were, for the better part of the 19th Century, generally well-received by the US government, because they were against imperial European powers. An astute observer might wonder what changed beginning in the late 19th Century. Or, as an even more astute observer might note, right around the time -- as you put it -- Marx and Engels made it cool to wave red flags and talk about solidarity.
It's almost as if the original intent behind the Monroe Doctrine, and what it became over time, are two completely different things, the former being a codified statement of anti-imperialism and the latter being a justification for it in the post-industrial USA.
Or -- bear with me -- the Cold War itself wasn't a "Cold War thing but a US imperialism thing".