Dog-Fighting Game Pulled from Android Market

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dementis

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RabbidKuriboh said:
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RabbidKuriboh said:
this shit is worse than rapelay imo
What? How?
one simple reason amimals are 100% innocent and can never be deserving of callous behaviour such as torture in this case, people enacting horrors on each other is fine(for lack of better word) but don't enact it on the only truly innocent creatures of the world
Most animals are designed with survival tools and instincts to fight to aid that survival, rape is not an instinct and doesn't aid anyones survival, I'm not saying dog fighting isn't bad but there is no way it's worse than rape.
 

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Treblaine said:
RabbidKuriboh said:
Spot1990 said:
RabbidKuriboh said:
one simple reason amimals are 100% innocent
What?! Animals are truly innocent? They kill people. They kill each other. They eat each other. They rape each other.... Are you implying that people deserve to be raped?
oh sweet christ i hope that was sarcasm

just in case it wasn't let me explain, animals are incapable of evil, humans are more than capable, an animal will only commit an act if it is towards either its own survival or towards the good of its pack

an animal will not inflict misery upon another life just for misery's own sake
OK then explain why the real life fox that got into my auntie's garden killed ALL the chickens and took only one of the bodies away to eat? No more chickens to poach, it didn't help their survival, it did it because it has a killer instinct BEYOND survival.

What about when a new lion joins the pack it KILLS the young cubs. Without exception. That is for neither their own survival nor the pack/pride but their own selfish desires for mates and "exclusivity".

Also "will not inflict misery upon another life just for misery's own sake" I hope you don't consider that a definition of innocence?

If a man murders someone for his money - not because he wanted him dead or to suffer, just his money - does that make him innocent? He was motivated by greed and disregard for human life, not sadism.

Animals are only innocent in the limited sense that they do not have the intellectual capacity to tell right from wrong, only good from bad. That is, they know that doing "bad" things will have repercussions they will regret.
1st one: Im not sure about this one but i do think there is a reason for it but i cant quite remember it.

2nd: To ensure that cub doesnt one day kill him when it wants to become the alpha.

3rd: If a man kills a man without any concept of good or evil and simply does it as a means of survival then he/she cant be considered evil, commit an evil act sure but not evil. Animals lack the moral compass we do. They dont do stuff for the lulz like we do thats the jist of it, sayin animals are innocent is wrong because they are incapable of this.
 

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1st one: Im not sure about this one but i do think there is a reason for it but i cant quite remember it.

2nd: To ensure that cub doesnt one day kill him when it wants to become the alpha.

3rd: If a man kills a man without any concept of good or evil and simply does it as a means of survival then he/she cant be considered evil, commit an evil act sure but not evil. Animals lack the moral compass we do. They dont do stuff for the lulz like we do thats the jist of it, sayin animals are innocent is wrong because they are incapable of this.
If a step-father killed the children of his new wife... is that evil? Even if he KNEW his step children would kill him once grown up due to the politics of his marriage?

Hitler never thought he'd ever done a thing wrong.

In your opinion: is Hitler innocent?

Your ideas of morality are frightening if they are not contradictory.
 
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I know I am not the only one but who else thought it was a different type of dog fight?

OT: I don't really think the game seems that bad. In bad taste yes but not out right bad. We have done much worse things in other games to people and aliens.
 

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katsumoto03 said:
tanis1lionheart said:
So Pokemon is okay but this isn't? o_O I am confused.
Pokemon aren't real animals. Dogs are real animals and dog fighting is an actual problem
1) They're based off real animals, or at least used to be.

2) What about games like COD/MOH/ect that feature soldiers murdering people - just like they do 'IRL'.


Personally, I value the life of am average human over the life of the average dog or cat or rat or bat or fish.
 

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Yes, when people kill people in a video game, that's fine, but when DOGS kill other dogs? DISGUSTING!

(Sans sarcasm: Yes, I do believe that making a game where a person kills another person is perfectly moral, and yes, I do believe that real-life dogfighting is immoral. But if you think that people killing other people in video games is fine, then so is dogs killing dogs in video games. Yes, Google has the right to remove it from the Android Market, but does that mean that it's moral to remove it from the Android Market? Not necessarily.
 

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zehydra said:
katsumoto03 said:
tanis1lionheart said:
So Pokemon is okay but this isn't?

o_O


I am confused.
Pokemon aren't real animals. Dogs are real animals and dog fighting is an actual problem.
war is a problem too, yet we play games that glorify it.
I never said that was okay either. The difference is: I like dogs and hate people.
 

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This game should be put back on the market.
In Pokemon I can fight all animals I want. In Manhunt you can stalk and violently murder people to death with primitive weapons like palstic bags and shards of glass.

Why does this Dog game matter? You can't use any argument against it you couldn't against any other game. It allows you to simulate doing illegal things? Cruel things? Immoral things? Need I list you the amount of games that allow this?

In New Vegas I could fight Rad Scorpions in a ring; why is this game any different?
Roughly this. Way to call out for games to be respected as an art, to be able to handle mature themes, then side with "inappropriate" games being taken down guys.

It just seems silly anyway :p its like a mafia wars app you say? Then you don't actually breed dogs and fight them, you just put one set of stats up against another and see who comes out on top.
 

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
Well, that's my disturbing revelation for the day. I knew this site was full of misanthropists, but choosing a dog over the entire human race?
Judging by the comments there appears to be a disturbing number of sociopaths who would place the life of an animal at or above that of a human being. It disturbs me no less than you. You're not alone at least.

We can try and comfort ourselves with reassurances that it's just internet hyperbole mixed with some pampered middle class detachment from the plight of thinking, feeling human beings over a mere animal, I guess.

Don't get me wrong, I adore animals, I loathe to see them be mistreated and made to suffer. However, they are by no means equal or even comparable to the life or a human.
 

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I totally disregarded this at first cause I swore it was a game about planes.

OT: I don't really have a problem with it being banned. i don't see why anyone would really want to play it. If the developer's really upset, then it should just reskin the game to make it some kind of monsters or something instead of dogs.
 

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have you ever heard of pokemon its the same thing and if pokemon is alowd so sould this
ps dont think i dont find dog fighting disgusting i do but if its a game(not a real life game like baseball but like pokemon)it dosnt hurt any budy if you dont like the idea you dont have to buy the game thats why i didnt get in to pokemon cus when ever i watch it i feelt sad for all those poor cruters

pss
i own a dog
 

Jumwa

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zehydra said:
exactly, this reminds me of this comic that was originally rolled out for Duke Nukem:
Pay attention to the last two panels
Good comic.

The day we value human life so dearly that we stop rejoicing in simulating the murder of them, I'll happily consider the same for animals. That's not sarcasm, I would genuinely be moved to tears if we all responded to the very thought of hurting and killing another human being the same way these people have responded to it killing some dogs.

Until then, however, it just strikes me as terribly hypocritical and callously anti-social to single out animals over humans.
 

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RabbidKuriboh said:
oh sweet christ i hope that was sarcasm

just in case it wasn't let me explain, animals are incapable of evil, humans are more than capable, an animal will only commit an act if it is towards either its own survival or towards the good of its pack

an animal will not inflict misery upon another life just for misery's own sake
Dolphins. That is all.