Don't ask don't tell.

[adakias]

I've never understood any of this. Like, both sides confuse me. I don't get why they'd want people to hide their sexuality, and I don't get why anyone would want to tell them. I dunno. Sexuality seems irrelevant when it comes to the military. I'm all for gay rights and I think the "don't ask, don't tell" thing was kind of ridiculous, but... I dunno. I guess I think some things are better left unsaid in situations like this. Like, if you tell someone, and they get all uncomfortable, and then they treat you weird, and then you feel all uncomfortable... I mean, you can never tell how people are gonna react... Like I said though, I just don't get it, and I can own up to that. ._.;
Now I feel stupid. xD

 

[Avarith]

I've never understood any of this. Like, both sides confuse me. I don't get why they'd want people to hide their sexuality, and I don't get why anyone would want to tell them. I dunno. Sexuality seems irrelevant when it comes to the military. I'm all for gay rights and I think the "don't ask, don't tell" thing was kind of ridiculous, but... I dunno. I guess I think some things are better left unsaid in situations like this. Like, if you tell someone, and they get all uncomfortable, and then they treat you weird, and then you feel all uncomfortable... I mean, you can never tell how people are gonna react... Like I said though, I just don't get it, and I can own up to that. ._.;
Now I feel stupid. xD

Atleast you admit this some people would rather just let things go. Sexuality should no matter but it some how does and it makes life difficult. It seems no one is willing to trust a gay guy unless it is a girl or another gay guy here, and vice versa. It is sad that it seems that it is just a bunch of kids running around acting like they can catch "the gay", like it was some sort of disease.

 

[Jonluw]

Now we have to show just because we are who he are and in the military it does not mean we wanna have sex with every one, we have not yet and we will not now.

You don't want to have sex with everyone? What are you, out of puberty?

In all seriousness though. Yay equal rights and stuff. I don't really know what to say; I haven't been paying much attention to this stuff.

 

[Avarith]

Now we have to show just because we are who he are and in the military it does not mean we wanna have sex with every one, we have not yet and we will not now.

You don't want to have sex with everyone? What are you, out of puberty?

In all seriousness though. Yay equal rights and stuff. I don't really know what to say; I haven't been paying much attention to this stuff.

I guess you have to where the shoes to understand what it is like walking in them. =P

 

[brodie21]

my opinion is thus, if they are willing and able to serve in the military more power to them. while being gay/lesbian still unnerves some people, i think that we should not be denying people who want to serve their country the opportunity to do so.

 

[Avarith]

Sexuality Doesn't matter on the battlefield. Why would i care about someones choice in partner if they are helping me fight.

This is my belief as well, but it seems that others think it is. They think just having a gay guy around is such a big deal and it is sad really.

 

[Avarith]

my opinion is thus, if they are willing and able to serve in the military more power to them. while being gay/lesbian still unnerves some people, i think that we should not be denying people who want to serve their country the opportunity to do so.

Some how the joker clap seems to make your point stronger.

 

[adakias]

I've never understood any of this. Like, both sides confuse me. I don't get why they'd want people to hide their sexuality, and I don't get why anyone would want to tell them. I dunno. Sexuality seems irrelevant when it comes to the military. I'm all for gay rights and I think the "don't ask, don't tell" thing was kind of ridiculous, but... I dunno. I guess I think some things are better left unsaid in situations like this. Like, if you tell someone, and they get all uncomfortable, and then they treat you weird, and then you feel all uncomfortable... I mean, you can never tell how people are gonna react... Like I said though, I just don't get it, and I can own up to that. ._.;
Now I feel stupid. xD

Atleast you admit this some people would rather just let things go. Sexuality should no matter but it some how does and it makes life difficult. It seems no one is willing to trust a gay guy unless it is a girl or another gay guy here, and vice versa. It is sad that it seems that it is just a bunch of kids running around acting like they can catch "the gay", like it was some sort of disease.

It's a shame. I'm not like that (I have absolutely no problem with it), but I know a lot of people who, sadly, are still in that mindset. A lot of the guys I know aren't against gay rights, but they are a bit jumpy around gay men... it's sad.
I just don't want anyone to get hurt, primarily gays. People can be mean, you know? That's my main priority. Is coming out worth the possible discrimination and abuse? That's what confuses me mostly. I'm clearly missing something here.

 

[brodie21]

Next stop, Transgenders in the Army.
Then US will be closer to Sweden in that regard.

What step comes next, I wonder? ...A gay/bisexual president/presidentess? That seems like a not bad thought that America may be ditching its Southern ways.

as long as he/she does a good job, whatever. but i dont think that the majority of america is ready to go that far yet. i think that first a woman will be elected prez and then maybe a gay/lesbian person. but i dont see this happening for a while. while many may talk about progressiveness, the truth is that people hate change, they love the status quo

 

[archvile93]

This is a good thing. It was always a stupid law. If I'm in combat, the last thing I'm worried about is the possibility that private Jack is checking out my ass. I also very much doubt that Private Jack would be too distracted by the opposing forces' attractivness to shoot back.

 

[Wildcard5]

If someone is willing to be a soilder I could care less about their sexual orientation. It is good to see "DADT" finally repealed.

 

[Lightnr]

OP: uhhhhh please revise your post? There are many things I think you spelled wrong and it makes some of your sentences nonsensical - I don't mean to put you down, but its hard to reply to a post where 35% is gibberish. Just because spell check doesn't underline any words doesn't mean that they are the correct ones to use.

OT: So what if someone is straight, and they just say they are gay so that they can be put into living quarters with the opposite sex??? Are men and women quarters separate? If they are, would gay/lesbian people have their own quarters? Its the same issue if two gay men are living together as if a straight man and woman are living together. Will there be separate gay bathing facilities? Interesting questions - lots of overhead to consider.

Also to those of you who think there is no sex in the military - there is.. a lot. People are people and they like to act that way. So many women soldiers drop out b/c of pregnancy for example.

 

[HT_Black]

Well, crap. I mean, it's nice that LGBT members of the army can openly express themselves, but you're kidding yourself if you think that they won't be discriminated against by everyone from their squadmates to the REMFs. When you've got thousands of heavily-armed and well-trained soldiers together in a warzone, the last thing you'd want to introduce is anything that can incite prejudice.

...And there goes my Draft cop-out.

 

[Saltyk]

I never saw why there was an issue to begin with. Why would there be? Why would you care to advertise your sexuality in the military anyway? Pretty sure the military frowns on any troops getting involved with each other in a sexual manner (This means men and women as well). Why would anyone want to know? Why couldn't the military just have a bylaw that punishes those who discriminate or harm others based on sexuality?

Maybe I'm just too smart for the general populace?[sub]Or maybe I just care waaay less than the general populace.[/sub]

 

[Lightnr]

Next stop, Transgenders in the Army.
Then US will be closer to Sweden in that regard.

What step comes next, I wonder? ...A gay/bisexual president/presidentess? That seems like a not bad thought that America may be ditching its Southern ways.

And then one day, we live in a world where religious, straight people are an utterly suppressed minority, anal sex is mandatory even by straight couples (this will be an unenforced but existing law much like the law today that missionary is the only allowed position in some states). As a result there emerge straight parades and rights for straight people marches, and straight propaganda by democrats, calling gays bigots, while FOX News is enforcing the gay traditions of old - imagine that.

 

[Daveman]

It's as they say, Gay men are the hardest men in the world. I mean most straight men recoil at the thought of having a big burly man try to get off with them, but not gays. In fact, most relish the thought of it. Frankly I think if anything the entire armed forces should be gay, then they'd find Osama...

But seriously, I don't know if this is true but my mate told me that there was an elite roman military outfit of exclusively homosexual men, the idea being that you'll find much harder if you're fighting to defend your lover who is right next to you. In fact in ancient Rome the love between two men was considered much more valuable/of greater importance than the love between a man and a woman, or so my friend studying Classics says.