Don't be a bad tipper
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It is $2.13 an hour.ravensheart18 said:
It will quickly turn into the customers problem. Either tip $2 or $3 and go about your business or pay $5 or $10 more for the food since the restaurant will have to make up the difference(but they will lose business since their food prices just went up 20-50 percent).Sindre1 said:
Some people just don't get it. Waiters/waitresses often make minimum wage. 90% of their income comes from tips. When you stiff them, you just robbed them of the reward of their hard work. I know some girls who will just slap $2 on the table and think nothing of it. They have no idea how the business works.Eri said:
If the service is bad, however, you have every right to withhold a tip. They did not deserve it.
Its %15-20, though I've heard you can dip as low as 10 if you odnt mind being a miser.DeadlyYellow said:
OT: Your friend is stingy and a miser. I'm sorry, but he is. Anyway, I always tip at least %10 unless the server was bad. I dont hold anything against them if anything outside of their control is bad. Usually I'll tip between 10-15% depending on how much cash I have, and between 15-20 if the service is exceptional.
Why? because if you dont, they remember you, and if you go there again, they're against you. Better to be safe then sorry.
To be fair, in the U.S. they're still required to be paid minimum wage by their employers. If their wage + tips doesn't add up to minimum wage, the employer is supposed to make up the difference and pay them minimum wage. I don't particularly like the assumed tipping system.ravensheart18 said:
I remember when we went on vacation and my sister tipped the bartender according to American customs, the next time we got drinks they were pretty much pure liquor.
yeah... I always tip, it depends on the price of the meal, but it is always atleast 15%, but often more. Say I buy a 15$ meal, i just give a twenty and forget about it. That being said, it depends where you are in the world. We took a trip to france and were told not to tip since it is already worked into the price.
I went to a place with a big group of friends as a sort of 'goodbye' party for me a few weeks back, and our waiter looked extremely tired (and it was reeeeeally busy, don't blame him). We did our best to make things easier on him for the night but with such a big group like we had I'm sure it was still a bit of a pain. In the end though, I ended up just giving $40 at the register for my whole order: $12 for what I orders, the remaining $28 as a tip.
I actually got irritated at a server who reminded us throughout the meal that most of her money comes from tips....After 5 or 6 times I got mad enough to talk to the manager and surprise, surprise, California offers NO such exemption for the minimum wage for wait staff and in fact she was making $16.70 an hour + benefits....and I was a cashier at Target making $11, no benefits, and with HER crying poor to ME! Not to mention making our entire meal awkward. I feel bad for people in states that don't hold their staff to at least the normal minimum wage for everyone else and think that should absolutely be changed. By the same token I think that states where tipping ISN'T to make up for their lower pay should stop expecting it.
See, that's just a terrible mistake on the behalf of America in general.nunqual said:
Here in Australia, I make minimum wage too: 15AUD/Hour
Apparently (according to the INTERNET! *doodoodoooo*), the Minimum wage in California as of now is 8/hour. That's HALF of our minimum wage, and considering the Australian dollar is at parity with (or occasionally exceeding) the value of the American dollar, I don't have to rely on tips so much.
Granted, tips are still nice, but they're not ingrained into the public psyche, they're optional; a tip, if you will. And that means I'm not cursing the sky blue because that one table left me a few dollars less than what I need to make rent this month.
I tip 15% if the service was good. If the service was bad, you get nothing and if the service is exceptional, I throw in 20%.
I don't tip everytime though. Don't meet my standards, don't cry to me.
I don't tip everytime though. Don't meet my standards, don't cry to me.
Here in Australia, Worker's wages are set at a minimum, or award wage for the various professions. You get 25% more if you're on a casual contract (which most hospitaliy staff are). On top of that, the employer must pay 9% to a superanuation fund, which accumulates wealth, intended for retirement.
It's a good system, which protects low income earners. So, tippig isn't needed here because staff are assured of a livable wage.
Now that being said, I'll leave a small gratuity if the service was good, and more if the service was exceptional.
Conversely, if I go to a restraunt and the service or food is truly terrible, I'll either walk out, or refuse to pay the whole bill. A third of the bill goes to overheads, a third for food and a third for profit. So, I tell them that I expect the bill to be reduced by one third. If they refuse I tell them they can feel free to call the police, cos I'm leaving without paying anything... and no, I NEVER go back.
It's a good system, which protects low income earners. So, tippig isn't needed here because staff are assured of a livable wage.
Now that being said, I'll leave a small gratuity if the service was good, and more if the service was exceptional.
Conversely, if I go to a restraunt and the service or food is truly terrible, I'll either walk out, or refuse to pay the whole bill. A third of the bill goes to overheads, a third for food and a third for profit. So, I tell them that I expect the bill to be reduced by one third. If they refuse I tell them they can feel free to call the police, cos I'm leaving without paying anything... and no, I NEVER go back.
15% unless the service is bad. If the service is excellent, any amount I feel generous enough to give based on how much money I have at hand.
Only at restraunts though, and mostly abroad. In very high standard restrauants I observe the other diners to attain if they tip here or not. Usually the answer is no, in those establishments the waiters are paid well above minimum wage.
Only at restraunts though, and mostly abroad. In very high standard restrauants I observe the other diners to attain if they tip here or not. Usually the answer is no, in those establishments the waiters are paid well above minimum wage.
I don't like the idea of tipping just because it's customary. Tips should be earned and not expected, I mean come on, your job description is customer service, keyword service that is what you are paid to do. We have a national minimum wage here in the UK which means all staff are paid sufficiently (apparently) to perform their roles. Why should one expect to be paid a bonus for doing their job well? You should be damn well doing your job well in the first place or you aren't providing good customer service...
That said, I deliver pizza as a part time job (in the UK) and I do get and keep tips, and thus when I eat at a restaurant and the service is nice I tend to leave a reasonable tip. When I no longer earn tips as part of my job I'll probably stop giving tips out of principle. There's really no need to pay someone extra when you have already paid for the meal which includes the cost of labour, service and the goods themselves... Yeah it's nice to think that tipping is a decent thing to do but it's done for the wrong reasons. It's a pity tip. You are giving money away to someone because you feel sorry that they should have to work in such a lowly paid job for whatever reason (usually lack of ambition). You're not being nice, you're just making yourself feel better about yourself. Paying more for better service is ridiculous.
Do you tip a mechanic who fixes your car perfectly and on time? No. Or a doctor for being friendly and prescribing medecines that treat you and make you feel all better a few days later? No. Do you tip a policeman who has spent the last two weeks tracking down your stolen goods and arrests the culprit? No. Or a librarian? A teacher? A lifeguard at the pool?.... No you don't, yet these people are far more deserving of your gratitude than a person forcing a smile and taking your dirty plate back to the kitchen... A simple job that they are fucking paid to do... /rant
That said, I deliver pizza as a part time job (in the UK) and I do get and keep tips, and thus when I eat at a restaurant and the service is nice I tend to leave a reasonable tip. When I no longer earn tips as part of my job I'll probably stop giving tips out of principle. There's really no need to pay someone extra when you have already paid for the meal which includes the cost of labour, service and the goods themselves... Yeah it's nice to think that tipping is a decent thing to do but it's done for the wrong reasons. It's a pity tip. You are giving money away to someone because you feel sorry that they should have to work in such a lowly paid job for whatever reason (usually lack of ambition). You're not being nice, you're just making yourself feel better about yourself. Paying more for better service is ridiculous.
Do you tip a mechanic who fixes your car perfectly and on time? No. Or a doctor for being friendly and prescribing medecines that treat you and make you feel all better a few days later? No. Do you tip a policeman who has spent the last two weeks tracking down your stolen goods and arrests the culprit? No. Or a librarian? A teacher? A lifeguard at the pool?.... No you don't, yet these people are far more deserving of your gratitude than a person forcing a smile and taking your dirty plate back to the kitchen... A simple job that they are fucking paid to do... /rant
anybody who doesn't feel the need to tip, do me a favor. go get a job as a server for 1 month. just 1. then at the end of that one month, tell me you don't feel differently.
here in Pennsylvania, servers make $3.86 an hour plus tips. tips generally get cut for tip out to the bussers and hosts, depending on where you work.
at the end of all this number shuffling, yeah, servers make pretty good money if they do their jobs well at the right establishment, but i can promise you, they earn that money.
seriously. if you can't afford the 20% for that overworked underpaid server, then don't go out to eat. order a pizza and tip the delivery boy $2.
here in Pennsylvania, servers make $3.86 an hour plus tips. tips generally get cut for tip out to the bussers and hosts, depending on where you work.
at the end of all this number shuffling, yeah, servers make pretty good money if they do their jobs well at the right establishment, but i can promise you, they earn that money.
seriously. if you can't afford the 20% for that overworked underpaid server, then don't go out to eat. order a pizza and tip the delivery boy $2.
I tip 15% if they did okay, about 20% if they are good, and 0% if they are complete tools.
The latter seems to happen a lot.
Honestly, if someone does their job poorly, why should I reward them for it? I've had some massively bitchy waitresses and waiters, the kind who never checks how we are doing, cocks attitude, etc.
They get no money. :|
The latter seems to happen a lot.
Honestly, if someone does their job poorly, why should I reward them for it? I've had some massively bitchy waitresses and waiters, the kind who never checks how we are doing, cocks attitude, etc.
They get no money. :|
I thank the gods that I don't live in a country in which tipping exists. Either tip EVERY worker who provides a service, or tip none of them. Besides, good service is those people's JOB. Do it because that's what you're paid to do. If the job sucks or isn't worth the effort, that's something to take up with the employer and the system that licks its lips at exploiting you. Tips exist because the American system has not protected its services staff from exploitative low wages. In other countries where tipping doesn't exist, those jobs get higher pay. The employers are having a laugh and have been for a very long time.