Don't say that's retarded, it hurts special kids feelings NOT ABOUT CALLING SPECIAL KIDS RETARDED

Recommended Videos

Tanner The Monotone

I'm Tired. What else is new?
Aug 25, 2010
646
0
0
Vault101 said:
I know right? why CAN'T you jsut call a ****** a ******? its their problem they get offended/sarcasm
Except black people don't get offended when another black person calls them that. They chose not to get offended then. Why should it have to be insulting if I say it? Most people would say I can't say it because I'm white, which is just reverse racism when it gets down to it.

With what you were quoting me on, if I say something is retarded (and that dumb fad for the most part is over, so I really don't say it anymore) and some person gets offended, starts lecturing me, all the while looking at me like I'm the scum of the Earth, then yeah, I'm not going to care very much about they're feelings when I tell them to screw off. Now, if a person gets offended and politely asks me to not say that, then I will comply.
 

Ashannon Blackthorn

New member
Sep 5, 2011
259
0
0
JimB said:
Ashannon Blackthorn said:
Hey JimB, I bet you really hate George Carlin, don't you? Just thinking his comedy would really set off your various sore spots.
I'm not sure I've ever seen any of his stand-up routines, so I can't comment on their contents. I can only say that from what I've heard about him, his use of language was careful and intricately crafted so it was clear the irony of his offensive language was the point and not the cheap laugh of a shock gag.
Oh, I strongly recommend you look some of his work up then. He has whole routines on PC'ness that sum it up pretty good.
 

PeterMerkin69

New member
Dec 2, 2012
200
0
0
Katatori-kun said:
I am skeptical that you can truly control your emotions, and I expect it's more likely the case that you simply don't encounter things that offend you much, so you rarely have cause to.
Maybe. Probably. There are things that do get to me, at which point I just concentrate on something else until I feel better. I've accepted that eliminating every or even most sources of distress isn't feasible and acting on those bad feelings is a waste of time. After doing this for a while, those things barely even register.

It's entirely possible I'm giving people too much credit. There's evidence that people react first, and consciously act to rationalize or justify those actions later, and this explains a lot of the experiences I've had. Maybe they can't change that. I'm unsure about that because in looking back on my own life I seemed to have been far more sensitive to negativity when I was in my teens, but maybe that was just hormones, or flawed memories, or something like that, and now I'm simply back to my unfeeling self.

Why on Earth would you expect that everyone should have the same feelings you do?
I guess I just don't believe I'm particularly special or that, excepting pathological emotional instability, most people are fundamentally different enough that they feel things so much differently than I do or can't process their reactions the way I can. Same species, same anatomy, same culture, similar initial conditions. There's not a lot of room for variety in there. And, I mean, if you actually interact with enough people, you start to see patterns, and how similar they are. Look at how you kept referencing the first amendment, (presumably) thinking that was my ultimate justification or that you needed to pre-emptively strike it down before I could use it. Or whatever you were doing.

(The correct answer was: I feel like it and the boundary conditions of the universe allow it. I refuse to arbitrarily recognize the authority of what dead men wrote hundreds of years before I was born.)

It is a big deal when someone knows that their choice in words will cause discomfort but they chose to use them anyway.
Big deal relative to what? SIDS? Rape? Murder? Racism? They're faux-pas, not concentration camps. I get what you're saying about not having the authority to decide for other people what should upset them or how much but there are clearly vast differences between actual trespasses against one another and hurtful words. Even if someone's emotions are much stronger than mine, it's still probably not as bad as breaking their legs.

Neither are desirable but they are distinctly different and responding to them with equivalent severity is too imprecise and unsophisticated for my taste.

Not in the slightest.
I am. One of the perks is that I genuinely don't care about race, or sex, orientation, or even disabilities. Maybe it's another artefact of my personality beyond my immediate control, I don't know. The point is, when I use offensive language, or make misogynistic jokes, it doesn't actually mean anything from my side of co-creation, yet I'm treated as if it does. Frankly, it's offensive and downright hurtful.

I don't actually speak to people like that in my day to day life. I don't speak like that in private very often. The consequences outweigh the benefits. I just think the consequences are way out of proportion. And dumb.
 

JimB

New member
Apr 1, 2012
2,180
0
0
Tanner The Monotone said:
Vault101 said:
I know, right? Why can't you just call a ****** a ******? It's their problem they get offended[/sarcasm]
Except black people don't get offended when another black person calls them that.
Are you aware of the irony here of saying it's not racist while you attribute a behavior to every member of the race you're describing?

Tanner The Monotone said:
Now, if a person gets offended and politely asks me to not say that, then I will comply.
There is something very disturbing to me about your insistence that if you have offended someone, then the offended party must follow conditions you dictate in order to get you to stop offending him; and I think it's the implication that you owe nothing to anyone you've wronged and will only show them compassion if they submit to your authority.

Ashannon Blackthorn said:
[George Carlin] has whole routines on political correctness that sum it up pretty well.
No, thank you. Any use of the term "political correctness" automatically pisses me off, because I cannot prevent myself from associating it with butthurt assholes who want to invoke it as some imaginary censor trying to strip them of their God-given rights to behave like pricks. While I don't doubt that Mr. Carlin, famously insightful man that he was, doesn't use the term in that fashion, I still can't help what I feel about the term, sort of like how the smell of carpet cleaner will always put me in mind of diarrhea (don't ask).
 

Tanner The Monotone

I'm Tired. What else is new?
Aug 25, 2010
646
0
0
JimB said:
Welcome to life, the place where people feel entitled to what the want, when they want it.

Being serious now, your conclusion on how I view others and how I think others should behave towards me, based on my comment, are completely off. Tell me, do you respond to people better when they are polite to you or do you respond the same no matter how a person treats you? By the response you gave to my comments, the latter applies to you, and I could draw the conclusion that you are a human robot., which I assume is completely wrong.

As for the first response, I'm calling all of it racist.
 

JimB

New member
Apr 1, 2012
2,180
0
0
Tanner The Monotone said:
Welcome to life, the place where people feel entitled to what the want, when they want it.
True. I just expect most people to get over that by the time they turn thirteen or so.

Tanner The Monotone said:
Tell me, do you respond to people better when they are polite to you or do you respond the same no matter how a person treats you?
Doesn't matter how kindly disposed toward them my response is, as long as I concede that I have behaved badly and make the effort to mend my ways.

Tanner The Monotone said:
By the response you gave to my comments, the latter applies to you, and I could draw the conclusion that you are a human robot.
Uh...whatever floats your boat, I guess.
 

Tanner The Monotone

I'm Tired. What else is new?
Aug 25, 2010
646
0
0
JimB said:
Tanner The Monotone said:
Tell me, do you respond to people better when they are polite to you or do you respond the same no matter how a person treats you?
Doesn't matter how kindly disposed toward them my response is, as long as I concede that I have behaved badly and make the effort to mend my ways.
See, I show respect if I'm given respect. If a person is being disrespectful to me, I don't think that person will really care about any sensible response I give, so I don't give one at all.
JimB said:
Tanner The Monotone said:
By the response you gave to my comments, the latter applies to you, and I could draw the conclusion that you are a human robot.
Uh...whatever floats your boat, I guess.
How dare you.......I don't own a boat.
 

JimB

New member
Apr 1, 2012
2,180
0
0
Tanner The Monotone said:
See, I show respect if I'm given respect. If a person is being disrespectful to me, I don't think that person will really care about any sensible response I give, so I don't give one at all.
And you don't think the person you offended to the point that he spoke to you in anger feels the same way about you?
 

Tanner The Monotone

I'm Tired. What else is new?
Aug 25, 2010
646
0
0
JimB said:
Tanner The Monotone said:
See, I show respect if I'm given respect. If a person is being disrespectful to me, I don't think that person will really care about any sensible response I give, so I don't give one at all.
And you don't think the person you offended to the point that he spoke to you in anger feels the same way about you?
I'm talking about people that jump straight to anger.
 

Vault101

I'm in your mind fuzz
Sep 26, 2010
18,863
15
43
Tanner The Monotone said:
Except black people don't get offended when another black person calls them that. They chose not to get offended then. Why should it have to be insulting if I say it? Most people would say I can't say it because I'm white, which is just reverse racism when it gets down to it.
black people took it on as their own word..for what ever reason/s

it may not be "fair" and even a form of reverse racism...but if you are a white person and you use the term ****** to describe black person then you are [b/]clearly[/b] using it to be offensive in some way or another, theres no way you can use while being oblivious to its previous context/meaning
 

TomLikesGuitar

Elite Member
Jul 6, 2010
1,003
0
41
JimB said:
TomLikesGuitar said:
I'm going to continue using retarded and gay to define my friends when they are being stupid or annoying and there is absolutely nothing anyone can say to make me think I'm a bad person for doing so.
Nor is there anything you can say to make me, at least, and I suspect a lot of others, think you're not a bad person for it.
Right.

I donate a bunch of my hard-earned money to charity, pay my taxes, help others whenever possible, and volunteer at a soup kitchen during the holidays, but it's perfectly understandable to judge me based on the slang terms I use that cause no harm to anyone.

People have started to prioritize making themselves offended more than the actual, serious problems that plague society.

This whole world is turning into whiny, moronic pussies because of PC bullshit...
 

JimB

New member
Apr 1, 2012
2,180
0
0
TomLikesGuitar said:
I donate a bunch of my hard-earned money to charity, pay my taxes, help others whenever possible, and volunteer at a soup kitchen during the holidays, but it's perfectly understandable to judge me based on the slang terms I use that cause no harm to anyone.
Three things.

First, I wouldn't describe paying your taxes as a thing that makes you a good person. I'd describe it as fulfilling the minimum of your obligations.

Second, I knew when I responded to you that you have a list of qualities that allows you to justify calling yourself a good person. If you didn't, you wouldn't have written that no one could convince you you're a bad person. I'm kind of dryly amused that you took such a defiant stand against anyone's opinion in your last post, and in this one are fighting to improve my opinion of you.

Third, when you use language that conflates homosexuality with an undesirable trait to be ashamed of that you need to correct so your friends will still like you, you really don't get to say you're not harming anyone, because you're contributing to an environment that hurts people every day.

TomLikesGuitar said:
People have started to prioritize making themselves offended more than the actual, serious problems that plague society.
Are you basing that on the fact that this conversation has been about the use of words and that no one has jumped in to say, "Stop talking about this, and start talking about the accepted and unchecked reality of prison rape in America," or on something else? Because if you think this is a stupid topic to talk about, let me point out that you are sitting here talking about it too instead of creating a new thread to discuss whatever those "actual, serious problems" you allude to but give no examples of are.

TomLikesGuitar said:
This whole world is turning into whiny, moronic pussies because of politically correct bullshit...
Ah. Yes. The boogieman who comes in the night to take away your right to say hateful things and makes you the victim in this situation instead of the people you're saying hateful things about.
 

Helmholtz Watson

New member
Nov 7, 2011
2,497
0
0
thaluikhain said:
They didn't, that's just how the word is used in the really real world.

When someone says "the gay community", do you seriously think they mean "the happy community"?
No,I think that they are just using one of the modern definitions of the word, which they have a right to do. However, I equally have a right to say "that's so gay". When I start saying "that's so homo" then they can tell me off.
 

JimB

New member
Apr 1, 2012
2,180
0
0
TomLikesGuitar said:
Say what you will.
Heh. Thanks for extending me your permission to do something you cannot possibly prevent me from doing. Damned benevolent of you.

TomLikesGuitar said:
I can tell by the way you form your arguments that you know I'm right.
Crap. Please do not insult my intelligence by expecting me not to notice that you've chosen a tactic which refuses to address any of my points, declares you the victor, and announces my capitulation of my behalf, all without a shred of evidence to back it up beyond "Oh, I can just tell." It is an extremely slimy attempt to weasel out of the discussion, and your attempt to pull it off is far too clumsy to succeed.