Tombsite said:I loved the TI3. Cost me way to much sleep and I now have a ton of stuff I need to catch up on but it was (kinda) worth it. Being from Denmark, by Scandinavian law, I kind of had to support [A]lliance,which was not all that hard I have to admit. Never was able to get into traditional sports but I kind of understand the attraction a bit more now.
No crits no melds on buildings. NA'VI could not out damage [A]liance when it came to buildings or at least they could not be sure so they chose to defend because they where still ahead of the time.SomeLameStuff said:That was all s4. Interrupting Na'vi's TPs when they tried to defend their top and bottom? Huge. Alliance were able to take both top and bottom sets of barracks.
Honestly, the moment their TPs were interrupted, Na'vi should have just abandoned defense and tried to take the throne straight off. Between Alchemist and a Daedalus PA, they had the ability to do some major damage, and probably force Alliance to abandon taking rax and go back to defend.
It was guaranteed that one lane of rax was going down, and there was no way they could stop the push without every member of Na'vi back. By going straight for throne, they'd either force Alliance to go for a base race, which Na'vi would win seeing how much damage PA was putting out, crit or no crit, or ALLIANCE would TP back to defend, which would result in two ways:
1) Alliance would abandon taking the rax to TP back immediately, which would put Na'vi out on top because their rax was still standing.
2) Alliance would take the rax and then TP back to defend, which would also put Na'vi on top, because the tier 4's would be dead or dying, allowing Na'vi to do what Alliance did and go straight for throne.
Alliance didn't have the damage or the lockdown to beat Na'vi in a straight base race. If Na'vi had pushed instead of running back to defend, I'm fairly sure they'd have won instead. Or if they really wanted, Batrider could have TP'd back to interrupt any of Alliance's TP attempts. And he's great at stopping pushes as well, and his autoattack damage isn't that high, so it wouldn't make that much of an impact on taking towers.
I have been put into a situation like this in a competitive match, so I am speaking from experience (somewhat). Of course, maybe Alliance had enough damage to take the rax faster, or Na'vi didn't have enough damage to dent the tier 4s. My estimates may be completely off, but I think Na'vi would have stood a better chance if they decided to stay and push rather than running all the way back to base after their TPs got cancelled.
1) Alliance would abandon taking the rax to TP back immediately, which would put Na'vi out on top because their rax was still standing.
2) Alliance would take the rax and then TP back to defend, which would also put Na'vi on top, because the tier 4's would be dead or dying, allowing Na'vi to do what Alliance did and go straight for throne.
Alliance didn't have the damage or the lockdown to beat Na'vi in a straight base race. If Na'vi had pushed instead of running back to defend, I'm fairly sure they'd have won instead. Or if they really wanted, Batrider could have TP'd back to interrupt any of Alliance's TP attempts. And he's great at stopping pushes as well, and his autoattack damage isn't that high, so it wouldn't make that much of an impact on taking towers.
I have been put into a situation like this in a competitive match, so I am speaking from experience (somewhat). Of course, maybe Alliance had enough damage to take the rax faster, or Na'vi didn't have enough damage to dent the tier 4s. My estimates may be completely off, but I think Na'vi would have stood a better chance if they decided to stay and push rather than running all the way back to base after their TPs got cancelled.