Double Standards, anyone?

[dex-dex]

i'd give you an example but my self esteem is nowhere near high enough to interact with a female

Ladies are not scary. unless they look like this:

Spoiler: especially the short one

am I scary?

Do you look like any of the people in that picture? Oh and do you have psychic powers that can make me explode into a cloud of blood?

I am not orange or psychotic.
and I think I can not use the psychic powers to explode. only to do cool stuff like make the dog float.

 

[artanis_neravar]

i'd give you an example but my self esteem is nowhere near high enough to interact with a female

Ladies are not scary. unless they look like this:

Spoiler: especially the short one

am I scary?

Do you look like any of the people in that picture? Oh and do you have psychic powers that can make me explode into a cloud of blood?

I am not orange or psychotic.
and I think I can not use the psychic powers to explode. only to do cool stuff like make the dog float.

Ah, then you are not scary. Intimidating is a different possibility, but not scary

 

[Captain_Fantastic]

All the time. When a women has sex with a bunch of men, she's labeled a slut. But if a man does it, he's labeled as gay.

It's bullshit I tell you.

WELL THEN if a you have a key that opens alot of locks its a pretty damn good key but if you have a lock thats opened by alot of keys then its a crappy lock now isnt it

i dont like that double standard myself but thats my way of making a joke out of it

 

[dex-dex]

i'd give you an example but my self esteem is nowhere near high enough to interact with a female

Ladies are not scary. unless they look like this:

Spoiler: especially the short one

am I scary?

Do you look like any of the people in that picture? Oh and do you have psychic powers that can make me explode into a cloud of blood?

I am not orange or psychotic.
and I think I can not use the psychic powers to explode. only to do cool stuff like make the dog float.

Ah, then you are not scary. Intimidating is a different possibility, but not scary

I would like to think I am not scary but I don't know!

 

[artanis_neravar]

All the time. When a women has sex with a bunch of men, she's labeled a slut. But if a man does it, he's labeled as gay.

It's bullshit I tell you.

WELL THEN if a you have a key that opens alot of locks its a pretty damn good key but if you have a lock thats opened by alot of keys then its a crappy lock now isnt it

i dont like that double standard myself but thats my way of making a joke out of it

I would like you to read his post again, 'cause a better "joke version" would be if a you have a key that opens alot of keys its a pretty damn gay key but if you have a lock thats opened by alot of keys then its a crappy lock now isnt it

 

[Captain_Fantastic]

and as my second of two bits i dont often look at double standards nor do they bother me because hey, i can piss standing up

and really the only double standard i noticed for a while was one time i had a few female friends over at my place, and i dont know why i have more female friends than guy friends but thats not the point.what happened was one of them decided to smell my underarm to see if she liked the smell, ok no big deal, then i realized if i were to do that i would have a good chance of being backhanded

 

[RatRace123]

Ooh, thought of another one. The legal system is incredibly unfair to men, and any matter of violence between the genders is tilted favorably towards women.

I don't usually care about most double standards but this one pisses me off.

A man gets abused by a woman? He's a pussy. And a man can't be raped by a woman, if it's sex, obviously the man likes it. In a matter of separation the woman is more likely to get custody of the children.
Basically, men are horrible, hulking evil monsters; women are defenseless, innocent flowers.

I prefer to believe that both sexes have equal amounts of evil, crazy and dangerous elements. And that the courts should see it that way too.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Not having a go here, but what's the point in making this thread? There's been a fair few, but those people have a reason to discuss it and usually have a story. Something like, "I was at a get together at the weekend and this woman/man and yadda yadda..."
It just seems a bit... ***** about something for the sake of it, it seems so out of the blue.
There's always those people who pop up in these threads and start spouting thinly veiled sexist comments about men or women too.
Like someone said, double standards aren't gender exclusive. Doesn't just happen with women either, I've encountered some problems like that with ethnic minorities and such.

When in doubt, listen to what Chapper said.

Pretty much this, threads like these just make the women on the escapist feel alienated. :<
There are women who come here too, although they are in the minority. This just seems like something that doesn't need to be brought up. Surely how people behaive is down to the individual. I know women who are horrible and men who are horrible but I also know some great people too. If someone pulls a double standard and is an ass to you then they are a rubbish person. It's not really anthing to do with their gender.

Ooh, thought of another one. The legal system is incredibly unfair to men, and any matter of violence between the genders is tilted favorably towards women.

You might have a point if the legal system didn't prosecute women for abuse against men but...oh wait they do. For example I nearly got done for GBH when I defended myself against an attempted rapist and ran away leaving him bleeding in the street.

Men just don't report it as much becuase the onus placed on them, by their own sex mind you, to be stronger than women.

It has nothing to do with what women think.

 

[JemothSkarii]

I'd probably live with the double standards; I'm far too chivalrous to say anything back at them (also possibly a chicken). Double Standards just cropped up from that 'weak woman who needs protecting' image and they stuck. Granted, I think I have that thinking subconsciously (My girlfriend for example, I know is a strong and independent girl, yet I have this strong and burning desire to be the guy who will always protect and keep her from harm).

 

[RatRace123]

You might have a point if the legal system didn't prosecute women for abuse against men but...oh wait they do. For example I nearly got done for GBH when I defended myself against an attempted rapist and ran away leaving him bleeding in the street.

Men just don't report it as much becuase the onus placed on them, by their own sex mind you, to be stronger than women.

It has nothing to do with what women think.

My apologies, I was just going by the general stereotype. And I'm well aware the stigma against reporting abuse is entirely placed on men by men. Hell, the whole double standard thing still largely exists because of male preconceptions about women.

 

[dystopiaINC]

For years in the UK women had cheaper car insurance.

Last year they had to pay the same as us men and they complained, and I quote, "why should we have to pay more just because we're women"....

I'm sorry ladies, you are paying the same as we've always paid now stick your special treatment up your arse.

In almost every developed country, statistics indicate that men are by far the more reckless drivers and much more likely to get into accidents - particularly under the age of 25. Hence their insurance rates are higher. That's no double standard or unfair treatment, that's insurance companies doing the logical thing because statistically speaking a certain subset of the population is a bunch of fucktards behind the wheel.

Of course this doesn't apply to every young male - myself included, as I'm 23, don't speed, and have yet to be in an accident - but numbers don't lie.

maybe not but honestly i get more nervous when i get a ride from girls, not because their girls it just i notice i find myself wishing i had a brake peddle in the passenger seat sometimes, like harder stops at red lights that could have been slower or more controlled, i'm gonna have a few gray hairs before i hit 25. not to say it can't happen with guys, i have one friend who is down right scary sometimes, (the fact that his car is almost falling apart doesn't help) also I've only ever come close to an accident 3 times when driving, all three were from being cut off by a girl on a cell phone. not kidding. i honestly don't know how they have less accidents. maybe more close calls? idk

 

[BanicRhys]

Women can wear pants and no one will think anything of it.
But if I wear a dress and make up, all of a sudden I'm some perverted sicko.

It's fucking ridiculous, I tell you whut.

 

[Chemical Alia]

You think with all the threads involving women being dicks or feminism is stupid, there would be a separate thread to contain them all. Why do all of you sound so misogynistic?

I'm probably the least mysogynistic person i know, but have been labelled as such by women for pointing out double standards before.

Which i find amusing to no end.

if i was any more open minded my brain would fall out.

I'd call that any relationship with the opposite sex ever.

If above post is a typical example of your open-mindedness, I wonder if "pointing out double standards" is really the reason women call you out.

 

[dystopiaINC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGZIQaCaW0I&feature=channel_video_title

seems like a good place to put this. hope this helps

 

[LiquidGrape]

Here's a double standard for you: A man can suggest that women are reaping the benefits of a societal system which allegedly persecutes men, but if a woman points out that this is a childish, reductive and knee-jerk overreaction to what is essentially just male privilege being cut loose, she is labelled a radical feminist, ostracized from the group and referred to by all manner of unflattering epithets on the The Spearhead and RPGCodex forums where men need not fear the unwavering terror of this merciless gynocracy.

 

[RelexCryo]

All the time. When a women has sex with a bunch of men, she's labeled a slut. But if a man does it, he's labeled as gay.

It's bullshit I tell you.

This is bullshit. It's a good example of discrimination against women.

Here is an example of discrimination against men: When women design fantasies to revolve around their own desires, where the female characters are what women want to be and the men are what women want them to be, like Twilight or Anne Rice novels, no one cares. (Aside from pointing out how stupid sparkly vampires are.) By contrast, when men do the same thing, designing fantasies where the male characters are what we want to be and the female characters are what we want them to be, not only is the stupidity of chainmail bikinis pointed out, we get accused of sexism, even if the female characters are intelligent, independent badasses.

All people write fantasies based on what they want, including beautiful/handsome depictions of the gender(s) they are attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

It sounds like you're referring to games. Games are not developed exclusively by men.

Actually, I was referring to western comic books, certain manga, anime, and certain speciific videogames. And what does the fact that women also make videogames have to do with this?

To repeat what I said to Dr. Snakeman:

The majority of feminists are intelligent, reasonable human beings, and the tendency of a vocal minority to discriminate against heterosexual men hurts feminism by association, in a manner similar to Gloria Steinem or Andrea Dworkin. Claiming that it is sexist for men to have fantasies of their own is in itself discrimination.

 

[RelexCryo]

All the time. When a women has sex with a bunch of men, she's labeled a slut. But if a man does it, he's labeled as gay.

It's bullshit I tell you.

snip-with-an-incredibly-weak-argument

Congratulations: you have successfully overlooked a witty joke for the sake of making a completely nonsensical and boring point. I hope you're satisfied with yourself.

My point was was perfectly reasonable, and on topic. Your post was not. Please do me a favor: even if you hate the underlying nature of a topic, please don't insult people for actually making posts that are on topic. The majority of feminists are intelligent, reasonable human beings, and the tendency of a vocal minority to discriminate against heterosexual men hurts feminism by association, in a manner similar to Gloria Steinem or Andrea Dworkin.

 

[DuctTapeJedi]

Spoiler

Here are some of the complaints men have:

- If I break something, a woman will blame me but I can't blame a woman for breaking something.
- I can't make jokes about hitting a woman but women can joke about hitting me.
- I'm not allowed to stare at women's bodies but women are allowed to stare at me.
- I can't use derogatory language directed towards women but women can.

Here are some complaints women have:

- One out of every five women will be raped, but only one out of 165 men will be.
- I work the same job as a man, but get paid on average twenty-five cents less an hour.
- I have a 300% higher chance of being murdered by my spouse than a man does.
- I am more likely to die of gender-neutral diseases, and a lower percentage of medical funding goes towards my sex-specific diseases despite their prevalence being higher.
- The vast majority of religious organizations will not allow me any semblance of authority or power despite me showing equal skill with a man.


In short, stop fucking whining, you over-privileged brats. Boo fucking hoo. No one cares if you can't stare at tits or that you have to be extra nice to those pesky ladies, lest they period themselves everywhere over you. Until you're afraid of walking home in the dark, I don't care.

Spoiler: I get a chance to use this :3

I'm already apprehensive of walking home in the dark.
[small]That's not really a gender specific thing.[/small]
[sub]Just saying.[/sub]

Wait- Did you just respond to a post about rape with the "Deal with it Dog?"
I need a second to process this...

 

[Chemical Alia]

Actually, I was referring to western comic books, certain manga, anime, and certain speciific videogames. And what does the fact that women also make videogames have to do with this?

To repeat what I said to Dr. Snakeman:

The majority of feminists are intelligent, reasonable human beings, and the tendency of a vocal minority to discriminate against heterosexual men hurts feminism by association, in a manner similar to Gloria Steinem or Andrea Dworkin. Claiming that it is sexist for men to have fantasies of their own is in itself discrimination.

My point is, it's not everyone's fantasy. As someone who works in a creative entertainment field dominated by guys and geared towards male consumers, it's hard not to question the default assumption that character designs are just fine to constantly cater to that fantasy. When art direction lacks taste, maturity, originality or interest over overt sexuality, there's nothing wrong with expecting more.