DOW2 or SC2? Whats the Better Sequel (not game)

[Spongebobdickpants]

This isn?t a thread about what?s the better game. It?s about what?s the better sequel. These to games in terms of being sequels completely contrast each other.

DOW2 completely changed pretty much every game mechanic in the game. From unit construction to micromanagement.

Whereas SC2 did the same as before and smoothed over the rough edges.

It can be argued that DOW2 is the better sequel as it changed the game and made it fresh and SC2 is just an remake.

But it can also be argued that SC2 is a better sequel because it revived the game without destroying the game it is and DOW2 is a completely different game possibly alienating its fan base.

So what?s your take?

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

Umm... I believe vs. threads are against the rules of the Escapist... just to let you know.

 

[SnwMan]

I would personally say that SC2 is a better sequel, because it builds on everything in SC1, which is what sequels should do. Where as DOW2 is a complete departure from DOW1 and expansions.

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

Vs threads are a bit of a nono...

Just because I haven't played Starcraft 2 and I love the Warhammer 40,000 universe I shall go for Dawn Of War 2.

 

[Scobie]

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[AugustFall]

An remake? Really?

Anyway I would say they are two different games, one is a standard RTS and one is now more like the tabletop game with an RPG-esque single player.
You can't compare two totally different takes on a genre. Nor can you say which improved most on it's predecessor in that they improved in different ways. From shining and not fixing what wasn't broken, to total revamp.

 

[Spongebobdickpants]

Vs threads are a bit of a nono...

Just because I haven't played Starcraft 2 and I love the Warhammer 40,000 universe I shall go for Dawn Of War 2.

are they soz didnt know that :/. i wonder why but still.i mean they allow threads like "Does God exist" which is beggin to be flamed which im guessin is the reason against it
EDIT: Also just forum scrollin i noticed 3DS or PS3 which again is another VS thread and nobody's complained :/

 

[Spongebobdickpants]

An remake? Really?

Anyway I would say they are two different games, one is a standard RTS and one is now more like the tabletop game with an RPG-esque single player.
You can't compare two totally different takes on a genre. Nor can you say which improved most on it's predecessor in that they improved in different ways. From shining and not fixing what wasn't broken, to total revamp.

right to rephrase what im asking is which approach is better.completely changing a sequel or leaving as is.also i awsnt saying it was a remake im just sayin thats what some peeps argue

 

[ProfessorLayton]

Umm... I believe vs. threads are against the rules of the Escapist... just to let you know.

They're not. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.116827-These-forums-and-you-Forum-Posting-Guidelines] It's just that people freak out over them for no reason.

I've never played Starcraft 2, but there's no way it could be worse than Dawn of War II... it's like Dawn of War fell on its head and forgot it wasn't an RPG... Yeah, change is nice but not when you're changing the entire format of the game. The first Dawn of War was fun, but the missions were very linear and done in a story type mode. They realized that this formula works better with Company of Heroes. Dark Crusade still had similar battles, but played more like Risk but with RTS games that determine the outcome of battle and I think the game was better for it. But in Dawn of War II, it just wasn't an RTS anymore.

 

[Spongebobdickpants]

Umm... I believe vs. threads are against the rules of the Escapist... just to let you know.

They're not. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.116827-These-forums-and-you-Forum-Posting-Guidelines] It's just that people freak out over them for no reason.

I've never played Starcraft 2, but there's no way it could be worse than Dawn of War II... it's like Dawn of War fell on its head and forgot it wasn't an RPG...

i liked DOW2's campaign...eventually at the beggining it was boring.and i dont see how anyone who played the multiplayer can call it a RPG so i assume you didnt but thats off topic

 

[JeanLuc761]

Well, I hated Dawn of War 2 because it took everything that was good about Dawn of War and just tossed it aside. Starcraft 2, while not innovative, was extremely polished, used what worked and made it better, and is just a whole lot of fun.

So, Starcraft 2 wins by a mile or twenty in my book.

 

[Slaanax]

I loved DoW2 and Haven't played SC2 yet so ummm I guess Dow2. I don't care for RTS games much so DoW2 improved on DoW1 in almost every aspect I could think of.

 

[Jaranja]

I haven't played SC1 or 2.

All I can say is that DoW1 and 2 are completely different games. The sequel is a RTT, whereas the original is a RTS.

Oddly enough, however, I enjoyed DoW2 so much more. I still play it, all the time.

 

[ProfessorLayton]

i liked DOW2's campaign...eventually at the beggining it was boring.and i dont see how anyone who played the multiplayer can call it a RPG so i assume you didnt but thats off topic

I didn't, actually... but it just didn't feel like Dawn of War anymore. If it were a different name and style I might have liked it more but it certainly wasn't what I was expecting.

 

[SquirrelPants]

StarCraft 2 is the better sequel. While Dawn of War 2 removed many elements of the original, including races and actual pieces of gameplay(base building, for one), StarCraft 2 is expanding upon its predecessor. A few units were removed, but for the most part it is just massively expanding upon its original concept, rather than dumbing it down.

 

[Ravinak]

Umm... I believe vs. threads are against the rules of the Escapist... just to let you know.

Vs threads are a bit of a nono...

Just because I haven't played Starcraft 2 and I love the Warhammer 40,000 universe I shall go for Dawn Of War 2.

Come on guys chill out, technically it is a vs thread, but there is a legitimate discussion on whether a sequel is better when it is innovative or build on its prequels.

OT: I believe the SC2 direction was better as a sequel personally, they took what was working fine from the old game, improved it, then added extra features to the game.

 

[TerranReaper]

Dawn of War 2 just removed everything I liked about the first Dawn of War games, not to mention, you're only given 4 races, as opposed to the nine races in Dawn of War 1. There wasn't anything wrong with the first Dawn of War (Besides no Tyranids and Soulstorm being crap) so why change it?

 

[AndyFromMonday]

Dawn of War 2 is the better sequel here. It revamped the gameplay and gave a true sequel whilst Starcraft 2 is basically Starcraft 1 with upgraded graphics and a few new units.

 

[JeanLuc761]

Dawn of War 2 is the better sequel here. It revamped the gameplay and gave a true sequel whilst Starcraft 2 is basically Starcraft 1 with upgraded graphics and a few new units.

I personally don't see how Starcraft 2 isn't a "true" sequel. It's more polished than the first, it keeps what made the first great, and it continues the story.

 

[II2]

Ironically, changing less, I'd say Starcraft 2 was a better sequel. Dawn of War was awesome, save for lacking Tyranids - but, when they tried to shoehorn it into the skirmish-style, Company of Heroes format on the Essence 2 engine, not even Tyranids could save it from feeling... somehow wrong?