Download The Expendables? You Might Be Sued

[Weaver]

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What would you like me to do, feel bad for all the people who are out breaking the law? Hold on and let me get my tiny fiddle...

In all seriousness, yes, the RIAA goes a little bit overboard with their piracy charges. But christ, even THOSE don't seem to be stopping people from hacking, torrenting, and otherwise stealing the works that they put time and effort into making, and that others put time and effort into making.

If you are expecting me to feel bad for thieves then I feel bad that you actually think that the thieves are in the right. These aren't robin hood-esque style of thieves who go about taking from the rich to give to the poor. These are people who are stealing from hard working people, moving writers, producers, script editors, and justify it because they are taking money from 1 or 2 really really rich actors.

Grow up, stealing is stealing. Get used to the punishments that come along with stealing if you commit the crime, and get off the soap box by making the RIAA be the complete bad guy. They wouldn't be such insane dicks if people didn't steal everything they ever had over the past 15 years.

It is copyright infringement, not stealing. You can say "you're taking things without paying for them, that's theft!" all you want, it doesn't make it true. Under the law, you will be tried and charged for violation of copyright, not theft. You are not stealing money from anyone, you are at worst denying them money.

Is it right to pirate media? No. Is it theft? No, it's copyright infringement. If you download a $20 album should you be charged 30 million dollars? I don't think that's anywhere near reasonable, yet somehow in the states they get away with it.

Here in Canada the CRIAA tried to sue someone for millions of dollars, the case was thrown out of court as outlandish and excessive, and the pirates got away Scott free. The video and music industries need to get their heads back down to reality, people don't have the kind of money they want and/or are accustomed to. Should you really have to declare bankruptcy and have your life destroyed because you didn't pay to see the expendables? I don't think so, I likewise don't think there should be no punishment at all.

The punishment needs to fit the cirime. Hell, if you stole a physical copy from the store (which is actually theft this time) you would be charged with about a $2,500 fine and community service. Yet somehow downloading it from the internet results in a 12000x multiplier? What is it, a convenience fee?

The entertainment industry wants to set examples, but it makes them look like assholes and does nothing but hurt them.

Theft is an over arching simplification and it covers a number of things: armed robbery, petty theft, larceny, embezzlement, and copyright infringement (just to name a few). Look at a few law books, it is covered.

Then copyright infringement is a subsection of theft?

 

[zxBARRICADExz]

haha, i'll be keeping my eyes open. they can have it back, god that movie was terrible.

totally.. it was somewhat fun to watch..but by no means "good"

i wonder if they will nail me?.. i buy tons and tons of blu-ray and dvd's...but i either rip my copies or DL them to keep my disks safe...so basically i guess im safe seeing as how i've paid for them and im not re-selling them or anything of the sort.

as long as yer not actively seeding them, you should be fine.

no i dont seed them at all.. DL and remove from the program.
i would think it was a legal thing to do seeing as how it's basically a backup of my existing copy that i paid for... but i wish i didnt pay for this movie... :/ sometimes terrible choices are made in the life of movie lovers

 

[dragonslayer32]

Am I the only one that thinks the Expendables is good? I went to the cinema to see it and pre-ordered it on DVD, the story lacks but if you need to kill time with some senseless violence it is great.

But the violence wasn't even good violence.

It was badly choreographed, lacked any flair of originality or intrigue and were generally cheap.

The movie was doomed to suck once they blew their whole budget on actors and special effects...

Look at something like Scott Pilgrim for how to do fight scenes well.

I really didn't like Scott Pilgrim, I thought the fight scenes were pretty random and pointless to be honest. I think fight scenes are better without great choreography, it makes them more realistic. Although, we each have our own opinions and it would appear my opinion is in the minority on this thread...

 

[BehattedWanderer]

...Can I sue them for making me think Bruce Willis would arrive to make the movie good, as they clearly lied to me and sold me a product that wasn't what was offered? Or should I just go the South Park/Passion of the Christ method, and ask for my 9 dollars back?

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

I really didn't like Scott Pilgrim, I thought the fight scenes were pretty random and pointless to be honest. I think fight scenes are better without great choreography, it makes them more realistic. Although, we each have our own opinions and it would appear my opinion is in the minority on this thread...

Fair enough, I find just normal fight scenes boring. 2 people exchanging gunfire every now and then and sometimes running between cover... I could just play Call of Duty and enjoy this situation a lot more.

I remember thinking while I was watching Scott Pilgrim that the fight scenes were masterfully crafted, they looked good, the fighting was accentuated by the effects and they never outstayed their welcome.

But hey, opinions.

 

[icame]

Good on them.

 

[Warachia]

Rich people in a $100,000 house? up here that is really cheap actually, and gets you a house with one floor and about 3-4 rooms.

I guess houses are really cheap in America? A low end house here is like 250,000 - 300,000 CAD.

Changed my original post, poor phrasing on my part, I'm Canadian actually and I meant cheap as in shit, not cheap as in good low cost house.

 

[pokepuke]

This method can be easily abused. They could be sharing the movie themselves and later on sue all the people they uploaded the movie to, and in effect make money off of the people who would have never paid to see the film in the first place.

 

[SovietSecrets]

Good thing it was so terrible that I would never download it anyways.

 

[J-Alfred]

To quote Yahtzee on this one: "Why would we want to do this terrible thing? It's like tying your breakfas to a plague rat."

 

[emeraldrafael]

I thought that they had those warnings on movies and it could be up to five years in jail and $250k? Either way, there's a reason its called PIRACY and its ILLEGAL. So this isnt exactly shocking news by any right.

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Yeah, but really, How much do you think you're getting out of these people and how long do you think it will take to get it? Its just easier to go after the rich, cause if you go after the poor and they default for bankruptcy, you're S.O.L.