Dr Who :Listen

[rosac]

What I love the most about this episode is that the figure under the bedsheets got credited- 10/10 performance by Mr. Kiran Shah, strong range of facial expressions

In all seriousness, the episode was great, the last scene was... wow. Also, yay Clara and Danny, it'll be interesting to see how this one pans out. Although Danny seriously needs to get his PTSD under control.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

It was a very powerful well written episode. However having said that...
*nitpicking mode activate*
If they travelled to end of the Universe where was the Ark that was trying to get to Utopia and why was it so bright?
*nitpicking mode deactivate*

I think that the general story was good. I am however sick and tired of stories centered on the companions. I don't give a crap about Clara and her love life. I want to see the 2000 year old time traveling alien super genius do crazy stuff.

I agree. I really don't care about Clara's love life. Although it is nice to see them developing Clara as a character.
However having said that the problem I feel they're running into is that they're in danger of having Clara upstage and overshadow the Doctor who (that was unintentional, I swear), I don't know about anyone else, is actually who I'm here to see. I mean Clara's great and all, but I'm really here to see the Doctor be awesome.

EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention. I thought "Time Lord" was the name of their race. So if that's true why were the Doctor-to-be's care givers talking about him not "making Time Lord"?

 

[Albino Boo]

EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention. I thought "Time Lord" was the name of their race. So if that's true why were the Doctor-to-be's care givers talking about him not "making Time Lord"?

Timelords are the rulers of Gallifrey not the name of the race. All timelords are Gallifreyan but not all Gallifreyans are timelords

 

[Thaluikhain]

EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention. I thought "Time Lord" was the name of their race. So if that's true why were the Doctor-to-be's care givers talking about him not "making Time Lord"?

Nah...more complicated than that, and explained in bits and pieces all over, not all in the TV series, some which may or may not be canon.

Suffice it to say that the Time Lords are the 1% of Gallifrey, they have lots of lesser Gallifreyans to boss around, but it seems that you aren't born into that class, you earn it.

 

[Silvanus]

I really enjoyed it, which is saying a lot-- I've thought that the show has been rather mediocre for a number of series, and liked neither Tennant nor Smith particularly. This episode (and the second) restored my faith a little.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention. I thought "Time Lord" was the name of their race. So if that's true why were the Doctor-to-be's care givers talking about him not "making Time Lord"?

Nah...more complicated than that, and explained in bits and pieces all over, not all in the TV series, some which may or may not be canon.

Suffice it to say that the Time Lords are the 1% of Gallifrey, they have lots of lesser Gallifreyans to boss around, but it seems that you aren't born into that class, you earn it.

Makes sense, but why are they so often referred to as a race?

 

[Zen Bard]

Should this have Dr Who in the title? It's "The Adventures of Clara, featuring some annoying old guy that's there also". Which is an odd move.

Yeah. I agree with you there. I think they're trying to bring back the vibe from the Eccleson Doctor where Rose was the viewpoint character. But it worked in that context because it served to show how alien and strange the Doctor was.

Here, they seem to be carrying on from Smith's Doctor where, because he looks and acts like a nerdy anti-social college professor, everyone treats him like one.

I loved the scene where Clara says "Do as you're told" and The Doctor says "I don't take orders." Would have love some line from Clara after that saying "Then take some friendly advice" or something so we can establish that this is the new Doctor.

This is someone who doesn't take orders as opposed to his previous regeneration who seemed perpetually henpecked by his companions.

 

[Azure-Supernova]

Yeah, this was the first episode I enjoyed entirely. But it's left me with plenty of questions...

EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention. I thought "Time Lord" was the name of their race. So if that's true why were the Doctor-to-be's care givers talking about him not "making Time Lord"?

Nah...more complicated than that, and explained in bits and pieces all over, not all in the TV series, some which may or may not be canon.

Suffice it to say that the Time Lords are the 1% of Gallifrey, they have lots of lesser Gallifreyans to boss around, but it seems that you aren't born into that class, you earn it.

Makes sense, but why are they so often referred to as a race?

It's quite heavily implied that certain genetic factors seperate typical Gallifreyans from Time Lords. But (generally) the New Who fandom often uses Time Lord as the race for both the Doctor and the Master. To some degree you could probably argue that Time Lords have been genetically modified (artificially or naturally depending on your source) enough to qualify them as a seperate race from lower class Gallifreyans.

 

[Zontar]

EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention. I thought "Time Lord" was the name of their race. So if that's true why were the Doctor-to-be's care givers talking about him not "making Time Lord"?

Nah...more complicated than that, and explained in bits and pieces all over, not all in the TV series, some which may or may not be canon.

Suffice it to say that the Time Lords are the 1% of Gallifrey, they have lots of lesser Gallifreyans to boss around, but it seems that you aren't born into that class, you earn it.

Makes sense, but why are they so often referred to as a race?

Could be a common mistake among the species of the universe. After all, all interactions with Gallifreyans would be threw the Time Lords.

 

[Gizmo1990]

Yeah, this was the first episode I enjoyed entirely. But it's left me with plenty of questions...

EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention. I thought "Time Lord" was the name of their race. So if that's true why were the Doctor-to-be's care givers talking about him not "making Time Lord"?

Nah...more complicated than that, and explained in bits and pieces all over, not all in the TV series, some which may or may not be canon.

Suffice it to say that the Time Lords are the 1% of Gallifrey, they have lots of lesser Gallifreyans to boss around, but it seems that you aren't born into that class, you earn it.

Makes sense, but why are they so often referred to as a race?

It's quite heavily implied that certain genetic factors seperate typical Gallifreyans from Time Lords. But (generally) the New Who fandom often uses Time Lord as the race for both the Doctor and the Master. To some degree you could probably argue that Time Lords have been genetically modified (artificially or naturally depending on your source) enough to qualify them as a seperate race from lower class Gallifreyans.

Good point. I would also argue that on the very rare occasions other species had dealings with anyone from Gallifrey it would be with a Time Lord/Lady.

 

[Trunkage]

"Is that how I look like from the back?"
"It's fine."
"I was thinking it was good."
The Doctor turns to Clara with a surprised look on his face
"Really?"

I am watching whole of the new Doctor Who again. I don't think I've laughed so hard

 

[ForumSafari]

For starters, we already know what a species that is perfect at hiding is like; you just spent three seasons on it, moffat, it's the silence.

I thought that at the time but I really enjoyed the episode regardless, it reminded me very much of when I was young and go scared of something stupid and no one would give it the serious attention I felt it deserved...until it turned out to be nothing. The idea that the doctor can be scared over nothing...but being the Doctor has the clout to launch an entire expedition to uncover his boogeymen is just delicious.

EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention. I thought "Time Lord" was the name of their race. So if that's true why were the Doctor-to-be's care givers talking about him not "making Time Lord"?

It could be both their name and a rank, it'd be stupid but presumably 'timelord' is a shortening of 'timelord of Rassilon' and they all get what it means.

 

[Eacaraxe_v1legacy]

Ironically, last night during my PnP game night I was discussing series 8 with my friends before any of us had seen that episode. I tossed out a total left-field whacko theory purely as a joke in regards to the total shroud of secrecy involving the series 8 finale and Christmas special, and Coleman's status in the series,

Spoiler

Gallifrey returns, Clara enters the academy to become a Time Lady.

...then we saw the episode. I don't think any of us are laughing now. There's precedent, considering the plans for Ace prior to the show going on indefinite hiatus in '89.

Damn, that ending. Also, if Missy doesn't turn out to be the Rani I will set something on fire.

 

[Mikeybb]

Trippy episode, bit weird how by the end we pretty much end up where we started with nothing but vaugeness. Clara might have dismissed it as being the Doctor just getting himself worked up over nothing but I think there really was more to this and we will come back to it.

Also

Spoiler

Holy shit Clara just broke the time lock to Gallifrey, the last time we heard of something doing that was that Dalek who saved Davros and it went mad. This is interesting indeed! The return of Gallifrey is coming soon man I know it is! Ohhh that has me excited!

Spoiler

Was it ever confirmed that the barn was on gallifrey? with the a tardis available it's difficult to place where or when the war doctor was with the moment, but it could be possible that the doctor grew up/was raised in what seems to be a children's home on a gallifreyan colony. Of course, what you said is a very valid theory and one that'd result in some exciting consequences for the series.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Yeah, this was the first episode I enjoyed entirely. But it's left me with plenty of questions...

EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention. I thought "Time Lord" was the name of their race. So if that's true why were the Doctor-to-be's care givers talking about him not "making Time Lord"?

Nah...more complicated than that, and explained in bits and pieces all over, not all in the TV series, some which may or may not be canon.

Suffice it to say that the Time Lords are the 1% of Gallifrey, they have lots of lesser Gallifreyans to boss around, but it seems that you aren't born into that class, you earn it.

Makes sense, but why are they so often referred to as a race?

It's quite heavily implied that certain genetic factors seperate typical Gallifreyans from Time Lords. But (generally) the New Who fandom often uses Time Lord as the race for both the Doctor and the Master. To some degree you could probably argue that Time Lords have been genetically modified (artificially or naturally depending on your source) enough to qualify them as a seperate race from lower class Gallifreyans.

Ok I haven't seen a whole lot of "Classic" Doctor Who. Only what's available on Netflix which isn't much.

 

[ElMinotoro]

I suspect that the thing in Rupert's room and the things outside the time machine will be revealved to have been actual things that are unreleated to the Doctor's night terrors.

They can't be literally nothing. There was a thing under a blanket. We saw it. The time machine air lock opened on its own.

I enjoyed this episode and think that it has left some subtle hooks with which to continue in the greater arc.

 

[Eacaraxe_v1legacy]

It's quite heavily implied that certain genetic factors seperate typical Gallifreyans from Time Lords. But (generally) the New Who fandom often uses Time Lord as the race for both the Doctor and the Master. To some degree you could probably argue that Time Lords have been genetically modified (artificially or naturally depending on your source) enough to qualify them as a seperate race from lower class Gallifreyans.

Ok I haven't seen a whole lot of "Classic" Doctor Who. Only what's available on Netflix which isn't much.

If I remember the explanation right cobbled together from A Good Man Goes to War and other canonical sources, exposure to the Time Vortex affected the Gallifreyans' evolution during the duration of their empire, allowing the capacity for regeneration, space-time hyper-awareness, psychic abilities, and all the other perks of being a Time Lord, but it's latent in most. It's the exposure to the Vortex through the Untempered Schism upon entering the Academy that manifests those abilities.

 

[M0tty]

I suspect that the thing in Rupert's room and the things outside the time machine will be revealved to have been actual things that are unreleated to the Doctor's night terrors.

They can't be literally nothing. There was a thing under a blanket. We saw it. The time machine air lock opened on its own.

I enjoyed this episode and think that it has left some subtle hooks with which to continue in the greater arc.

The thing under the blanket looked an awful lot like a stereotypical pop culture alien, big head, grey skin, huge eyes etc.
Could well have been a kid in a rubber mask.

The air lock, I'm not sure, though the vibe I'm getting from the episode is that we can be our own worst enemies, so it'd be a bit odd to give the message/twist of "It was all just jumping at shadows." Then have an actual monster outside.

 

[ElMinotoro]

The air lock, I'm not sure, though the vibe I'm getting from the episode is that we can be our own worst enemies, so it'd be a bit odd to give the message/twist of "It was all just jumping at shadows." Then have an actual monster outside.

Moffat completely missing the point of his own story? Never.

I don't know. All the sounds happening, the fact an airlock opened after being unlocked by the doctor. It indicates to me something more. You see the look of recognition on his face and the explosive decompression happens well afterwards. Maybe this truly was a Silence story?

 

[M0tty]

Moffat completely missing the point of his own story? Never.

Touche

I don't know. All the sounds happening, the fact an airlock opened after being unlocked by the doctor. It indicates to me something more. You see the look of recognition on his face and the explosive decompression happens well afterwards. Maybe this truly was a Silence story?

They did give plausible explanations for the noises, the look of surprise could have been because he was expecting to see something, and nothing was there. The decompression, bad luck maybe? sudden failure? A bit tenuous I know.