Dragon Age 2 trailer-EPIC
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Wasn't there rock music and cinematic battles in the trailer for Dragon Age: Origins?Stubee said:
I don't like it. Watching a guy with a ridiculously impractical weapon in ridiculously impractical armor wail away on a demony thing is something you can see in nine of every ten games from Japan if you want. Hell, the protagonist even does that ultra-cheesy 'dragging blade on the ground' trick which in reality would both just A: Dull your weapon and B: Slow you down, serving absolutely no purpose except to look moderately cool right up until you turn on your brain and think about it. There's no story development, nothing is revealed, it's just a cgi fight. Meh!
Doesn't help either that there's absolutely nothing which jumps out and says 'This is Dragon Age' either. Take out Flemeth's voice and you could easily replace all the logo with 'Generic 3rd Person Hack & Slash' and absolutely no one could tell the difference.
Mind you most of Dragon Age: Origins trailers I hated as well, so I guess we'll see!
Doesn't help either that there's absolutely nothing which jumps out and says 'This is Dragon Age' either. Take out Flemeth's voice and you could easily replace all the logo with 'Generic 3rd Person Hack & Slash' and absolutely no one could tell the difference.
Mind you most of Dragon Age: Origins trailers I hated as well, so I guess we'll see!
I agree. There are a lot of people complaining about the changes to DA 2. But what they don't seem to realize is that change is good. I can't wait until March.expwnit said:
Yeah, and those had bugger all relation to the actual game too. I loved DA:Origins, and Awakening, and am really excited for Dragon Age 2, but I'm not going to get my hopes up watching epic trailers for things I'll probably be unable to do.dradiscontact said:
I'm not complaining. I'm merely pointing out that going by past experiences, Dragon Age trailers look awesome but totally unlike the actual game.expwnit said:
Just so you know, the quote button sends a message to the person you are talking to, so they know you got back to them.expwnit said:
Also, the BioWare forums are terrible. The extremely vocal minority of "I am entitled" people there, make me sick. They over react to every little thing.
I think most people are just sad to see the original Dragon Age concept go. It's not like there are many games left like it in the genre... if any. Whereas 3rd person action rpg are plentiful, hell I can think of 4 coming in the future off the top of my head: Mass Effect 3 (Eventually), Gothic 4, Two Worlds 2, and The Witcher 2 which looks to be absolutely brilliant.Shepard said:
Tactical isometric party-based rpg with customizable characters however? There was one left in that sadly dwindled genre, and that was Dragon Age. Now there are none.
Pity because many of the best rpg ever made were like that, Baldur's Gate especially. And now it's a dead genre.
From what we have heard thus far, it's not that different. Thus far the only real difference is that you have to play as a human and the character is voiced. Also, the art direction and the story telling style. Still quite a few users over at the BioWare forums over react and believe that BioWare are making the changes just to make changes, instead of realizing that the changes could be for the better.The Madman said:
Read further. You now not only play as Hawke and only Hawke meaning the origins system is gone, but the Isometric view on the PC version has been removed, the combat simplified, dialogue trees simplified, no more modding, and the leveling options much reduced (I thought they were too simplified in the original game already!). The tactical pause-play combat system is also being heavily reduced from the game in favor of a more 'snap snap' approach to combat akin to... oh, I dunno, Mass Effect 2.Shepard said:
Sources: One Two Three, etc, etc. That's from googling 'Dragon Age 2 Changes', first page.
Which would all be fine really. 3rd person action rpg can be incredibly fun. It's just... well... there's already an rpg which sounds *exactly* like what Bioware are saying Dragon Age 2 is going to play like, and it's called The Witcher 2.
I'm sure Dragon Age 2 will be excellent, I can't think of a Bioware game I didn't love. It's just I was kinda hoping for more Dragon Age...
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Yeah, the changes are not too extreme, but they kinda veer-off the traditional RPG concept. For example, why not pick a race? This worked wonderfully in DA:O, and contributed to its huge re-playability factor. Not being able to customize your character, or choose a race you're fond of is a huge blow to the role-playing in an RPG. You don't get to pick a race in Prince of Persia, or in COD, or in Assassin's Creed, - but you should be able to pick a race in a fantasy world in which races and their differences play a key role. Like in DA:O.Shepard said:
So it's not like I'm hating this, but I am noticing that the change is more linear and arkade-like, than it is RPG-like.
Second: "slashing through countless enemies like a knife through butter". People, DA:O was a challenging RPG, and it was proud of it, and it took time, persistence and intelligence to master. People were constantly bitching about how actually hard it was. And now, I'm hearing of a linear, hack-and-slash experience that's more akin to PoP than to DA.
However, I believe in BioWare, and if they fine-tune the changes like they did with ME2, I'll be happy to play DA2. The changes don't mean that DA2 will be bad, but they mean it will be slightly different. Some may love it, others don't. As someone said, I'm just sad to see the old, RPG-cannon-stuff go. But that doesn't mean I won't like DA2 when it comes out - nor that I will hate it. Only time will tell.
Cheers.
I've read all those articles before. Did you even read the third source about the camera? It said: "The second change involves the tactical camera. In Dragon Age: Origins, the camera would move into an overhead position to give players a birds-eye view of the action. This would make it easier to assign specific commands during each battle. In Dragon Age 2, the camera won?t be pulled up as far as it was in Dragon Age: Origins. But you will still be able to move the camera around freely just as you did in Origins." That doesn't sound likes it removed. Also, the third source about the toolset: "This is because the toolset BioWare is using for Dragon Age 2 is almost the same toolset it used for Dragon Age: Origins. BioWare is instead trying to figure out a way to update the existing toolset modders currently have access to. This would include to improvements the team has made while working on Dragon Age 2." That sounds like it's still going to be there just not a new version and updated version instead.The Madman said:
Combat is not simplified. Just because there may not be as many different talents doesn't mean it's simplified. The talents are going to be evolved to forms. < That is from the GI print article. < That also has to do with the leveling thing you mentioned too. There are still going to be tactics and the like they are just making it better. I don't know what to even make of the ME2 combat remark. Dragon Age Origins is clearly superior on the PC. Why not change the console combat if it makes it better. Change is not a bad thing.
Dialogue is not being simplified. Just because your responses are around a wheel now and not written out doesn't mean they are simplified. The only difference from Origins is that it is in a wheel now and not written out. Oh, and instead of reading it yourself you actually get to hear Hawke say it.
I am fairly certain I covered everything you mentioned, now I have to talk the other guy.