Dragon Ball Evolution: Good or Bad?

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vivaldiscool said:
AdmiralWolverineLightningbolt said:
MalevolentJjim said:
AdmiralWolverineLightningbolt said:
why all the hate?
i think it will be good in its own right

they've taken the license and done something creative with it


*slap* No!

You sir,have a messed up perspective of what "creative" really is.


Of course it will be awful,to US.
But the kids and emo girls will love it,because "goku is loike,soooo hote loike! =3"
no, they've taken and a franchise and, rather than make an awful cosplay, they've kept the martial arts, the over poweredness and made it marketable
they've done evrything they shouldve done for a film version, stop looking at it as a literal translation of the anime and more as a film inspired by the anime
Actually, from what I've read, (see review) the costumes are worse then cosplay, the martial arts are horribly bland, and even accepting that, are quite bad in their own right. People who have never heard of dragonball will walk away wondering why they wasted their money on such a turd of a movie, fans will wonder why such a famous franchise was basterdized so much, and it will satisfy nobody.
mm, ive just read some reviews and am annoyed to admit it does sound bad
but no-one knew it would be bad, every just looked at a few trailers, saw picollo wasnt green and complained, they should have waited for the reviews
i still say it couldve been good though, the just screwed it up majorly
 

Archemetis

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Antinash said:
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This thread will not end well. It's all about someone's opinion, and most people don't know how to respect someone else's opinions.
Ah you see, this topic is rather interesting. There are three types of people in this world: Those who never saw the anime, those who saw it and think that the movie is going to be awesome, and those who saw the anime and are up in arms about this movie. Sadly, the first two groups of people that I have listed don't exist on the internet. Therefore there is only one opinion that everyone can agree one.
This has been a public safety announcement.

You missed one out, there is also the people who know the difference between watching DBZ and enjoying DBZ and couldn't care about it as an anime no matter how much they try, but still think the movie is an utter travesty.
 

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I cried while watching the trailer. Serious tears.

That being said I wanna watch it opening night with friends.
 

KaZZaP

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I saw the first 10 minutes online and I couldn't take anymore. THEY'RE IN HIGH SCHOOL! GOKU IS SOME EMO DOUCHE BAG WHO DOESN'T EVEN SMILE! Not to mention Masher Roshi is in his forties. The thing that we're wrong in the first 10 minutes almost made my head explode. It not even just that things we're wrong tho, it was just bad.
 

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ITS GONNA BE AWESOME!! I like DBZ, hate GT and thought Dragonball was for pedophilic old Japanese men (ie. Master Roshi). But the fact that its live action dragon ball is cool.I heard a rumor that saiyans don't turn into monkeys in this, instead they get real big. GAY! that had better not be the case.
 

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Well, considering that an actual live action translation of the anime would be incredibly terrible to anybody who didn't watch it as a kid, they didn't do so bad at trying to make it likeable to as many people as they could. Let's face it, the people who are up in arms about the anime probably wouldn't see it anyway even if it was faithful and was just about two guys sitting around, screaming for an hour, before throwing punches in a blur of f/x magic and then shouting out a nonsensical attack and blasting eachother away with energy balls. Screw that. I used to watch the anime almost every single day that it came on. And you know what? The story was horrible, honestly, stop looking at it through rose colored glasses of childhood fancy and actually look at it.

The first series was about Goku finding the dragonballs, then finding them again to bring back somebody who was killed while he was looking for them anyway, then he fights Piccolo, who's revealed to be this sort of demon.

DBZ rolls out. Goku's really an alien, and so is Piccolo, so now disregard everything about the first series being magical and replace it with sci-fi BS explanations. Goku fights his brother, his brother's boss, his brother's boss' boss, travels to another planet, gets blown up, turns out to not be dead via deus ex machina, fights robots, fights better robots, dies again, comes back again, fights demon, flies off to leave kids and family behing again.

GT comes along, Goku gets turned into a kid, travels galaxy for dragonballs, fights alien, fights dragons, disregards everything that came before. ETC.

And through it all the power gets upped further and further, they introduce super saiyan after super saiyan, form after form, and fusion after fusion. Each time they upped the ante the battles got bigger and more insane. Now admit it that you watched it for one reason and one reason alone, admit that the reason you sat through episodes and episodes of screaming and training and charging up, was all for those epic fights. That insane destruction. That's why you loved it.

The movie looks like it kept the thing that makes the anime so great, the insane action stuff. It changes everything else about the story to facilitate the fact that they have an hour and a half or so to get everything going and show off all of those battles that you know is the only reason you'll be watching this thing. They can't be like the anime and spend hours explaining why this person fights that one before the big battle, they just have to give something that works quickly. So yeah, from what I see, the fights look like they should be good.

So what, Goku's in high school, do you really want to watch a nine year old fight somebody? Roshi looks 40, you really want to watch a 70 year old actor with a bad hip just limply move about the screen instead of really fighting? Bulma's apparently Tomb Raider now, you really want...okay I got nothing here, that's just weird.

Anime just doesn't translate well to the silver screen, unless, of course, it's done as an anime movie. Try to make it live action and it falls apart. Seriously, take your favorite anime, try to boil down the story that's built over what may be a minimum six and a half hours (13 half hour episodes) or 13 hours (the seemingly standard 26 half hour episodes) and cut it down to a maximum of two hours, and make it make any damned sense. You know what, you can't. You either cut out large portions that are deemed mostly unimportant that the fans will still complain about (see Tom Bombadil and Lord of the Rings film for example) or consolidate things and change some aspects of the story to speed things along to give characters motivation and whatnot (the Joker and the murder Batman's parents in the first Batman movie). Either way, something gets changed and people are going to complain, and if you try to make the changes to where non-viewers of the anime might be able to understand what the ef is going on, then you're going to have the obsessed anime guys talking about how much you suck.

That's the thing that I don't understand about all this, you have people clamoring for live action adaptations of these anime's and these comics, but they don't seem to realize that you can't make that, make it make sense to somebody who hasn't seen/read the source material, and make the story fit into a feature length film that would make any damn sense. Watchmen is a perfect example here, talk to anybody who's read the comic and seen the film and they complain about how they got it wrong or how they cut things out, but honestly how the hell do you fit something with a story that large into something that doesn't require a nap and a lunch break to sit through watching?

Think before you wish for this stuff. Things will be changed and you're not going to get that beloved series that you wanted to see live action so badly. Astro Boy will (hopefully) not be a little kid dressed only in a speedo. Cowboy Bebop won't feature all of the interesting secondary characters and will likely only focus on Spike and Sid. Neon Genesis Evengelion will have it's religious iconology reduced. And Gundam will focus almost exclusively on the fights and not the inner conflicts and relationships.

Is this movie a faithful Dragonball adaptation, hell no. The fights maybe, but everything else is a no. But they at least tried to take a ridiculous story and try to make it appealing and make sense to people who've probably never seen the anime.

In short, don't watch this thing for the story, watch it for the fights, and watch it for the action. Everything else will likely dissapoint your idealized happy childhood memories of this anime.

/rant.
 

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I asked all these questions from the trailer alone. How come Goku looks like some emo kid? Where is Bulma's blue hair? Where is the Red Ribbon army? Where is Quilian, Yamcha, etc? How come Master Rosey looks like a middle-aged Chinese resturant chef and not an old pervert/martial arts master on a deserted island with a love for turtles? How many more things can FOX butcher? FOX News tried to butcher Mass Effect. 21st Century FOX has butched countless franchises. FOX the channel is butchering Family Guy and The Simpsons. Etc, etc, etc! If that Evangelion life-action movie gets though development hell, there will be hell to pay, especially if FOX does it.