Dragon's Dogma

[The-Traveling-Bard]

Does anyone else think Dragon's Dogma could easily beat the The Elder Scrolls series?
I would really like to see a sequel to this game, and fantastic PC support.
I haven't played the game. I watched playthroughs on youtube and I am just so shocked. The combat, the mechanics, the class system. The Pawn system. It truly has great, great gameplay.

I would very much like to see this title continued on PC and with good mod support.

What say you?

 

[piinyouri]

I've thought about this a time or two and honestly, I don;t know really.

One one hand they aren't really similar enough for one to be given the title of 'better'.
However, it does share some things with the ES series.

I think I'm just hoping for Capcom to embellish and elaborate on what's already there, as well as a bit of refining, and let the DD series stand on it's own.

 

[BathorysGraveland2]

I would very much like to play it, but I'm not a console player. With that said, I would love to see a PC version. It certainly looks quite cool.

 

[gamernerdtg2]

I'm glad to see this thread. Listen:

1. Get the game if you own a console. You can get it cheaper online.

2. The combat for Dragon's Dogma is WAY better than Skyrim. No comparison. I personally don't like Skyrim. I want to say that it's even better than Dark/Demon's Souls but that's not fair because I have yet to play either game. Demon's/Dark Souls looks like a much slower game.

3.I would think that the closest PC game to Dogma would be Vindictus. A warning about Vindictus though - the online support is supposed to be terrible. It's a free game, but don't get stuck.

4. Ignore the complaints about Dogma. They are usually complaints about how small the world is, or that the pawns talk too much, or that they talk all at once, or that you can't fast travel when you want to, or that the story is not good enough, etc. So far, none of these complaints drag this game down for me. The combat ties everything together in a very satisfying way - so all your looting, all your item combining, the type of character you design...it all affects the experience. The world may be small, but the game design forces you to savor what's there. They've done more with less, so to speak.

Dragon's Dogma is hands down great. You make your own stories from the combat. The Magic Archer can shoot arrows that light up an entire area, and I have yet to try the arrows that ricochet...get this game. Believe the hype. I like the Pawns and the system for them. If you get a pawn that knows the quest you're on, they're actually helpful.

I'm not sure how I feel about this going to PC, but everyone should have a shot at this game so why not?

In my opinion, it's old school Capcom mixed with modern console gamer RPG elements. The looting, crafting, questing, dungeon crawling, etc is all there, but Capcom knows how to do combat. I haven't tried Dark Arisen yet because I really wanted to get the original game first. You should get the demo!

If I could make a list of games that are worth owning a console, Dragon's Dogma would be one of them easily.

In conclusion - do the right thing and get it!

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Good combat for sure, but there's just nothing to the roleplaying elements, and once you've fought a Chimera/Griffin for the seventy eighth time...

Questing is just 'go to notice board, collect/kill X amount of enemies'.


There's lots of potential there though.

 

[Dominic Crossman]

Don't know if there is already a topic for this but beware of save corruption brought on by latest patch
That is all.

 

[piinyouri]

So finally getting to take a crack at Dark Arisen.

Spoiler

Lv 66 Warrior, fought the big guy who resembles Oblivions 'Gatekeeper', beat him with just me and my pawn.

Does it get harder? Cause right now I'm a tad worried.

 

[Sack of Cheese]

I love it!! It's my favourite game of 2012! A flawed perfection.
It made me buy Monster Hunter for the PSP (I don't own a 3DS or a WiiU yet). Tried it, didn't like it.

So finally getting to take a crack at Dark Arisen.

Spoiler

Lv 66 Warrior, fought the big guy who resembles Oblivions 'Gatekeeper', beat him with just me and my pawn.

Does it get harder? Cause right now I'm a tad worried.

I went in at around level 90, still getting my ass kicked.
Mini-bosses and bosses are crazy, my bow only does a little damage and sometimes it only takes 3-4 hits for them to wipe my health bar.

 

[JemothSkarii]

So finally getting to take a crack at Dark Arisen.

Spoiler

Lv 66 Warrior, fought the big guy who resembles Oblivions 'Gatekeeper', beat him with just me and my pawn.

Does it get harder? Cause right now I'm a tad worried.

I'm playing on Hard, level 142 and I'm still getting my shit kicked around at points. Probably cos I didn't min/max and switched classes too much.

OT: It's a great game, I'd be interested to see what would happen to it when modded by the PC community. Little tip: A lot of the background and story is found through sidequests and the world around you. Listen to your pawns comments on the area and just look at details.

 

[piinyouri]

So finally getting to take a crack at Dark Arisen.

Spoiler

Lv 66 Warrior, fought the big guy who resembles Oblivions 'Gatekeeper', beat him with just me and my pawn.

Does it get harder? Cause right now I'm a tad worried.

I'm playing on Hard, level 142 and I'm still getting my shit kicked around at points. Probably cos I didn't min/max and switched classes too much.

OT: It's a great game, I'd be interested to see what would happen to it when modded by the PC community. Little tip: A lot of the background and story is found through sidequests and the world around you. Listen to your pawns comments on the area and just look at details.

Is it true you can no longer switch your difficulty mid game?
I'm thinking of starting it again on Hard.

 

[JemothSkarii]

So finally getting to take a crack at Dark Arisen.

Spoiler

Lv 66 Warrior, fought the big guy who resembles Oblivions 'Gatekeeper', beat him with just me and my pawn.

Does it get harder? Cause right now I'm a tad worried.

I'm playing on Hard, level 142 and I'm still getting my shit kicked around at points. Probably cos I didn't min/max and switched classes too much.

OT: It's a great game, I'd be interested to see what would happen to it when modded by the PC community. Little tip: A lot of the background and story is found through sidequests and the world around you. Listen to your pawns comments on the area and just look at details.

Is it true you can no longer switch your difficulty mid game?
I'm thinking of starting it again on Hard.

If you change difficulty you keep your level and equipment but you have to start the story again.
It's kinda silly but I guess it makes sense...Hard DOES kick up the challenge by quite a bit though.

 

[piinyouri]

So finally getting to take a crack at Dark Arisen.

Spoiler

Lv 66 Warrior, fought the big guy who resembles Oblivions 'Gatekeeper', beat him with just me and my pawn.

Does it get harder? Cause right now I'm a tad worried.

I'm playing on Hard, level 142 and I'm still getting my shit kicked around at points. Probably cos I didn't min/max and switched classes too much.

OT: It's a great game, I'd be interested to see what would happen to it when modded by the PC community. Little tip: A lot of the background and story is found through sidequests and the world around you. Listen to your pawns comments on the area and just look at details.

Is it true you can no longer switch your difficulty mid game?
I'm thinking of starting it again on Hard.

If you change difficulty you keep your level and equipment but you have to start the story again.
It's kinda silly but I guess it makes sense...Hard DOES kick up the challenge by quite a bit though.

Oh yes, I;m aware it does that, it did so in the base game.
I'd heard that Dark Arisen prevents you from changing your difficulty at all. As in no way to change it once the file is started, short of making another.

 

[JemothSkarii]

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That one I don't know about because I haven't tried it.

 

[Galen Marek]

Yeah I would say it defiantly could.
Its a great game, really good combat, lots of quests, large land to explore, multiple enemy types, pawns need to shut up a bit, really really good combat (seriously, the combat is fantastic, Capcom may have funny stories (this one is pretty fun, I enjoyed it) and questionable DLC sometimes (this game has massive content before you even consider DLC so DLC for the game is okay, you can easily cover 100 hours of gameplay without DLC it has that much you can do) however, combat in their games is always very good, least it always feels good to me).

The game was underrated.

I would love to see it surpass the popularity of the Elder Scrolls series. It was a really good game and a new IP at launch. The Elder Scrolls game have gone on for a while, I would like to see a new IP become Bethesda's new series. 5 games in the series seems like a nice stopping point, don't know why, just feel that 'V' is a good ending figure.

Dragons Dogma would be a nice series to see continued for a sequel or 2 then Capcom could make a new Open world JRPG.

Thats just my thought. Im biased toward DD and against ES (I enjoyed Skyrim but Dragons Dogma felt like a far better game to me), so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Just sharing my thoughts (I am trying to be truthful in my comments and not pick on a game un fairly but like I said, I do admit potential bias).

 

[The-Traveling-Bard]

Good combat for sure, but there's just nothing to the roleplaying elements, and once you've fought a Chimera/Griffin for the seventy eighth time...

Questing is just 'go to notice board, collect/kill X amount of enemies'.


There's lots of potential there though.

I like to be that guy.. So..

You can say that about any game.

I killed Devils in Devil May cry for 500000th times.
I killed Draugers in skyrim for the 9000000th times.

Etc. etc.

I hope they make a sequel and improve on the game. This title seems like it can go in great places.

 

[Exius Xavarus]

So finally getting to take a crack at Dark Arisen.

Spoiler

Lv 66 Warrior, fought the big guy who resembles Oblivions 'Gatekeeper', beat him with just me and my pawn.

Does it get harder? Cause right now I'm a tad worried.

When I started Dark Arisen, I was around 110, on hard mode. Let's just say that while the lowbie monsters weren't all too bad, anything bigger than a normal sized creature was not a particularly easy fight. Although things have gotten much more manageable, even now as a level 161 Mystic Knight with 4.3k hp, Mutated Hellhounds are still an absolute nightmare for me.

You can, however, look forward to leveling up quite a LOT. I went up from 110 to 161 in just a few days of playing through it.

2. The combat for Dragon's Dogma is WAY better than Skyrim. No comparison. I personally don't like Skyrim. I want to say that it's even better than Dark/Demon's Souls but that's not fair because I have yet to play either game. Demon's/Dark Souls looks like a much slower game.

Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are much slower, more methodical than Dragon's Dogma is. To be perfectly honest, the only comparison that can be made between them is their open world third person action style of gameplay. Other than that, Dragon's Dogma is an entirely different beast from Demon's Souls and Dark Souls.

As for beating out The Elder Scrolls series, not a chance. They're hardly comparable at all. They don't even remotely play the same way. Not to mention that The Elder Scrolls is a long running series, whereas Dragon's Dogma is still a brand new IP. Whether or not a sequel to DD will be as popular as ES remains to be seen, but Skyrim had several months' worth of threads that would often fill an entire page, both before and after release. From what I saw, DD didn't get 1/10 the attention that Skyrim did.

 

[Little Gray]

Is it true you can no longer switch your difficulty mid game?
I'm thinking of starting it again on Hard.

I am currently on hard mode and if I try to switch difficulties in the options menu it does give me a warning that it will restart the game. It kind of sucks but it is so worth it if you are still playing on normal.

A word of advise though at level 141 with armour that is better then anything you could get in dragons dogma I can still get one shotted by the late enemies in dark arisen especially the final boss on the second playthrough.

 

[Baralak]

Dragon's Dogma was okay. The world was really bland, though. I especially hated how *everything* was static. That valley were 4 goblins ambushed you? Yeah, those exact same goblins, will always ambush you, at the exact same time. Things being static like that are just bad for an open world game. It really killed it for me. That, and the lack of fast travel. Skyrim got that right. Walk to where you want to go the first time, and then just fast travel from then on when you need to go back. The lack of fast travel, mixed with the static world, just killed my enjoyment of the game. Walking through that one beginning valley SO much just straight pissed me off.

That said, the combat was fun, and I'll be looking forward to an announcement of a sequel, if it happens. DD has a fanbase now, and that fanbase isn't Street Fighter or Resident Evil, so I'm not expecting much.

 

[Maxtro]

Dark Arisen does a good job of fixing the fast travel problem without making it too easy.

As for a PC port, Capcom wouldn't bother as it would have a very small number of sales.

Consider this, Dark Souls has 2.3 million worldwide sales. 300k of that is for the PC version.

http://www.gamechup.com/dark-souls-sells-2-3-million-units-pc-version-sales-revealed/