Duke Nukem Forever Demo...So what do you think?

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The Cheezy One

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MiracleOfSound said:
Cowabungaa said:
This makes me so sad. So very sad. Seriously, cover?! Dies fast?! He can only carry 2 weapons at once?! What is this blasphemy!! What were they thinking??

I'll still play the demo myself when it's available for everyone, but your judgement on shooters isn't all that bad, so I'm wary now.
It's not cover in the Gears sense, more in the COD sense. Get shot, duck behind, regen, come back.

And yeah, 2 weapon limit.

I'm not being hyperbolic for the sake of it here either, I rather wanted to like this game. But it just felt bland, broken and unpolished.
A game nearly 15 years in the making feels unfinished? I'll just let that sink in. It's actually quite worrying.

OT: I'll get the demo when it's openly available, but as I'm 18, this game was never particularly interesting to me.
 

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Zhukov said:
MiracleOfSound said:
It's just... bad in every conceivable way to be honest.

Also, what Woodsey said.
Huh.

Whelp, there goes my pre-order.

Thanks for the warning.
Wow, you're easily swayed.

I watched a play-through of the demo and I liked what I saw. I'll wait until the demo is made public and I'll decide from there.
 

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I get the strange feeling the demo is going to be nothing like the actual game, wouldn't be surprised tbh
 

Ramthundar

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Was pretty fun, right till it wasn't working for me. Got to the
part where you almost beat the one-eyed boss and you are supposed to press spacebar (jump) repeatedly
, but the command wasn't registering. Got it on my laptop though, so I blame my poor outdated hunk of metal rather then the game. But seemed fun enough, good to get away from all the brown and gritty realism. If anyone happens to know how I could get past that little hicup, it be much appreciated.
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
So where IS this demo, exactly?
I've done a sweep around and not found a mention of it.
If you've got/used a "First Access" code, you can go to http://www.dukenukem.com/access/entry/ and put it in and they should give you a demo code you can use on steam, XBLA, or PS store to download it. If not, you're stuck waiting until the 10th or 14th when I would assume everyone will be able to download the demo.

As far as my thoughts on the actual game, I liked the demo, but it felt like it had been gutted to death to keep it from spoiling anything. So, exactly like any other demo ever, but somehow it seems to matter more when it's a demo for something I actually wanted, rather than something I'm just curious about.

Still, the demo is kinda buggy, regenerating health ego and two weapon limit is kinda crappy, hit detection *could* be a little off(though I think the shotgun just has a really tight spread on purpose), and the vehicle section was awful(though it could be just the terrible terrain you drive on, full of craters and whatnot as they roll death boulders and enemies at you).
 

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EHKOS said:
I loved being able to turn on all the hand dryers at once, reminded me of my childhood.
It's pretty innovative, and I adore the quick shots at the big games like Half Life, but I can't help but feel FUCKING REGENERATING HEALTH OUT! OUT! DAMMED DEMON OF MODERN FPS GAMING! OUT!
Agreed.

Also the weapon limit...I mean wtf. Why? Making Duke realistic? Really?

I wasnt overly impressed by the "feel" either, or the scenery. The humor was spot on though, and I marveled at the whiteboard :D

I dont know....I think it will probably be a fun romp through olden times, but it will be just that. Olden times. We already got over the top shooters in this age (Bulletstorm). And while not close to as funny...it was a breath of fresh air compared to CoD.

I'll probably buy it, simply because its finally out, but I predict mediocre scores.
 

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Meh.

I played for around 10 minutes over lunch, and was largely unimpressed. I know that this isn't enough time to get through the whole demo or form a real opinion, but it plays like a generic and dated FPS. I'll probably buy the game, but I won't be pre-ordering it or buying at full price right after it ships.
 

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Sorry, I don't have access. Thus, the developers have utterly botched their only feasible attempt to convince me to buy it (as per usual).

So, no, I'm not impressed. At all.
 

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In a word, horrid, for one the mouse felt very un-sensitive and i had it up to max, I felt slow and had to take cover far to many times for a duke nukem game and i could only carry two guns, this isn't duke nukem, its a modern day shooter with Duke nukem cut-out boards and posters on it.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Zhukov said:
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Care to elaborate?

I'm considering buying it but I don't have access to the demo.
Fiddly shooting
Jokes you wouldn't even give a sympathy laugh to
Duke is a pussy and dies too fast, and gets view-kicked when shot
It's a cover shooter instead of the old stye run and gunner
'Chaaaarge!' - style enemy AI
The worst graphics I've seen on the 360
Crap frame-rate
Driving sections are awful and look retarded
Bad hit detection (in a single player game.... WTF)
Limited audio - I got so sick of Duke's jumping grunting noise
Stupid physics 'puzzles' that were outstaying their welcome in 2005

It's just... bad in every conceivable way to be honest.

Woodsey said:
The shooting felt shit, the first fight was me standing around holding down the LMB until the monster's health bar went down, the writing tickled me (very gently) once, its ugly as sin (they blur anything and everything that is 5 feet away), the driving was crappy.

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Also, what Woodsey said.
In all honesty, this is a repackaged version of the PAX East demo. I'm pretty sure that the full version will be different in some ways.
 

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Have to disagree with MiracleofSound and Woodsey. While the demo is rather short (got it 4 hours ago and already finished it twice on medium and once on hard difficulty modes) to make a proper opinion and, by the looks of it, running an outdated version of the game (development-wise), here's what I can say as a counterargument to some of their negative statements:

Before I write my statements down let me give a short description about the demo to the people who haven't had the opportunity to play it: This is a 30-minute long gameplay demo split into two missions: one that takes place at a football stadium (see DNF gameplay trailer from when it was first announced) -and- (I take a rough guess) the Nevada desert, where Duke runs around a little in a monster truck and then shoots his way through aliens to get to a mine.

First of all, excluding the blur, I didn't find the graphics of the game to look that bad. Honestly, I don't understand why people are so upset by this. Sure, it looks nothing like Crysis 2, but it's pretty damn good as far as I can see. Then again, I tried it out on a PC, so this might be console folks talking console stuff.

Second, whether you find the jokes in the game funny or not is purely subjective based on each person's humor. I found the jokes pretty funny. Unfortunately, after the first 2 minutes of gameplay, the demo cuts short on jokes, usually just sticking to Duke's one liners as opposed to the EDF soldiers funny lines. Still funny, but not as good as what you're presented at the beginning.

Third, combat. I didn't find it that bad, really! The first part of the demo was pretty short on that, and That is kind of a bummer (it's pretty sad when a 30-minute demo has about 5 minutes of running around in a -shooter- game), with the only combat segment of it being the boss fight, but I really didn't find it -that- bad! Sure, it could use a little tweaking to make it more intense but, as it is, it's still a pretty cool fight. Woodsey was incorrect in his statement in which he said "standing around". You have to move constantly during the fight in order to dodge rockets, a charge that the boss does and a ground slam which goes in a straight line. The rockets alone take about one third of HP on medium level and half HP on hard, so it's essential that you don't remain stationary. This, combined with the fact that a friendly chopper drops ammo supplies whenever you need them, BUT, in random locations makes it a pretty interesting boss fight.
The combat didn't seem as much "cover shooter" to me as it did "keep moving at all times", a la Serious Sam. Taking cover is only a good idea when you need to reload or when your health drops drastically, otherwise enemies will draw in on you and you'll get wasted so it's recommended to stay in the open and constantly move to avoid enemy gunfire, while shooting them down.

Fourth, not everything is brown. The first part of the demo, at the stadium, has a rather wide arrange of colors from what I was able to notice. The second part has, indeed, brown as the predominant color, but honestly, it's a desert setting, what would you expect? Besides, from all the released trailes I think the game will be anything -but- brown.

(Let me make a short pause here to discuss the health system. Yes, health kits are missing and the health regeneration system is implemented, but I don't see it as a bad point, seeing as the game is rather challenging on higher difficulties. For me, this seemed like the kind of game where standing still meant that enemies would instatarget you and hit you, but moving meant you had a chance to dodge the bullets. In this kind of scenario, having regenerating life almost seems like a plus, since you can't rely on cover to actively fight your enemies, just to reload and recharge health.)

As for framerate issues during gameplay, I played the demo with everything on max and I had no technical issues with it. The rig I'm currently using was set up in 2008, so it's quite old, but not outdated, and it does run all the CoDs, Crysis 2 and Battlefield BC 2 on it on mostly max settings (the only game I had to put at medium settings so far was Battlefield BC2).


Please don't get me wrong, the demo DOES have flaws.

The driving section is rather tedious.
The blur seems to produce minor graphical issues witch can diminish game quality and make it feel like a cheap remake.
The fact that you can carry just 2 weapons is simply bullshit. I would've accepted 2 weapons + a gun, honestly, but it feels retarded when Duke has to throw his gold-plated pistol to pick up a shotgun. Honestly, you can't just squeeze it in your jeans or put it in a holster on your leg or something?
The fact that it is clearly an outdated version of the game and still presents minor gameplay issues. It just feels like they took a last-minute decision to release a demo and de Devs and QA departments found themselves with 2 days to create something shippable.

Hopefully, most of these issues will be already resolved in the launch version or in the first patch of the game, and some (like the weapon system issue) in a future DLC or larger patch, but my best advice to you is:

Just look for the demo gameplay on Youtube. You shouldn't decide your choice on other people's opinions since opinions can be subjective, especially when talking about games. If that doesn't convince you, wait for the game launch, when the demo will most likely go public.

I agree with everyone else that Gearbox and/or 2K Games did a dick-move by giving the demo only to FAC members (though I can understand the motives, it's really an ugly way to crap over a big majority of your fan base).
 

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Played it on PC and the graphics are pretty good not that that would make any difference.

The game did has the Duke Nukem flavour but there's two things that that makes it your average FPS: regenarating health and worse thing of all beeing able to only carry two weapons. While I can get away with the reg life since the game is actually hard Duke was all about having a shit load of weapons that were doing crazy stuff. Now people will have to choose and you'll end up keeping railgun for range fights and shotgun for close fights.

As for humour is everything and more.

P.S. Love the hints in the loading screens "if you die it's your own fault" lololol
 

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Kind of disappointed but not by a lot. There are only five FPS ever released that I like and Duke Nukem 3D was one of them, so I was mildly interested in Forever. It's to bad that it have nothing in common with 3D. It's has cover, regenerating heath, two weapon, all the check point that makes FPS so boring.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Fiddly shooting
Jokes you wouldn't even give a sympathy laugh to
Duke is a pussy and dies too fast, and gets view-kicked when shot
It's a cover shooter instead of the old stye run and gunner
'Chaaaarge!' - style enemy AI
The worst graphics I've seen on the 360
Crap frame-rate
Driving sections are awful and look retarded
Bad hit detection (in a single player game.... WTF)
Limited audio - I got so sick of Duke's jumping grunting noise
Stupid physics 'puzzles' that were outstaying their welcome in 2005

It's just... bad in every conceivable way to be honest.
I could forgive all of that honestly. I really could. But the two weapon limit...It's unforgivable. Simply unforgivable. It's literally the worst thing to happen to FPS gaming for as long as I can remember.