Dust 514

[Albetta]

Well from that trailer that came out a while ago, I think this looks insane, but not in the good way. So a bunch of ground troops are fighting, and they try and call in an air strike, but instead, mister Rice Spaceship man orders a orbital strike and Kapow. Everyone on the ground dies. Mr Rice Spaceman continues playing his stock trading MMO, PS3 players are left thinking "That was a waste of time".

So no, not a huge fan =)

Yes, but in the E3 trailer they showed just the exact opposite happening, Dust players shooting down an EVE capital ship with a ground based-battery.

 

[JoshGod]

I was hoping for something regarding the new diet from fat fighters, oh well.

 

[WanderingFool]

Anyways what i'm most afraid of is what most of you might have already, at least subconsciously, been thinking.

"Dust 514 huh? The game where you invade planets for EVE players? Sounds really cool, but I would rather play Call of Duty."

Ive been screwed over by the last two COd games, so Im sure as hell not thinking that. But this game will still have some serious competition...

Also, im looking forward to seeing Eve players raging about all the money they are losing because of the Dust players fucking things up for them and their ships...

 

[Bludge]

The problem with DUST is that it will have to fight hard to appeal to anyone except Eve players, and since Eve is PC game and DUST is PS3 exclusive it also cuts many of Eve players from the game.

It's hard to find reason behind "why would an FPS player pick DUST over other FPS if they are not into Eve in first place".

I could never get into EVE when i tried, but the concept of DUST makes me very excited and has done since i first heard about it a year or so back.
Shame i will never get to play it due to it being a console exclusive.

 

[pulse2]

I think some people are missing a few things, CoD isn't everything and anything, yes its the most popular shooter, but that hasn't stopped other shooters doing well on PS3.

Resistance florishes online
Killzone flourishes online
MAG as far as I know still flourishes online, but it did in the first place which is the point

And these three are just examples outside of Battlefield and CoD, not everyone cares about CoD or Battlefield.

I understand that point made about cutting off PC eve fanatics, but its a double edged sword, the game exclusive to PS3 attracts PS3 owners to a game that would have otherwise gone overlooked (how many gamers on consoles care or know about eve?) and at the same time, it allows CCP to appeal to a diverse and new audience through different means.

As for Xbox people saying it would have been better on 360, how so? What's the difference? :/ Besides, you're talking about a console that has no real MMOFPS experience as of yet because of all its tedious restrictions.

And for those whining about control set up, FPS' have been on consoles for years now and no one has ever complained, why is this suddenly an issue?

I personally don't understand the cynical attitude towards the game, if its a good FPS, I'll be sure to pick it up, anything beats playing CoD, every boring man and his dog plays that game, so what if I'd prefer to play something different?

 

[AlexiVolkov]

It has been known for a long time that Dust would be ps3 exclusive, because of microsofts insane restrictions on the 360, but haters have to ignore reality.

In all honesty I'm excited for Dust. I can blow up space shit in Eve.. and I'll be able to shoot people in Dust. The interconnectivity of the two games is what is really going to make Dust something awesome. Being Free to play and driven by microtransactions with a currency that can be obtained via in game means certaintly does not hurt it.

Dust will in all likely hood do the same thing many other FPS's do, and what Eve currently does.. It will have it's core player base that sticks around for the long haul, and then have a fluxuating number of players ontop of that.

And if you really want to see tears about the PS3 exclusive... go look at the Eve forums... most of the front page of General discussion is all whine threads...

 

[Korten12]

It has been known for a long time that Dust would be ps3 exclusive, because of microsofts insane restrictions on the 360, but haters have to ignore reality.

In all honesty I'm excited for Dust. I can blow up space shit in Eve.. and I'll be able to shoot people in Dust. The interconnectivity of the two games is what is really going to make Dust something awesome. Being Free to play and driven by microtransactions with a currency that can be obtained via in game means certaintly does not hurt it.

Dust will in all likely hood do the same thing many other FPS's do, and what Eve currently does.. It will have it's core player base that sticks around for the long haul, and then have a fluxuating number of players ontop of that.

And if you really want to see tears about the PS3 exclusive... go look at the Eve forums... most of the front page of General discussion is all whine threads...

I checked it out once the news hit. I don't play Eve but I knew some would be discussing it.

SO MUCH WHINING! Half of the arguers barely even understand consoles in general. Hell one didn't even believe when someone said that MW2 sold a lot of copies... >.> You don't have to like the game but you can't deny that.

 

[Albetta]

I think some people are missing a few things, CoD isn't everything and anything, yes its the most popular shooter, but that hasn't stopped other shooters doing well on PS3.

Resistance florishes online
Killzone flourishes online
MAG as far as I know still flourishes online, but it did in the first place which is the point

And these three are just examples outside of Battlefield and CoD, not everyone cares about CoD or Battlefield.

I understand that point made about cutting off PC eve fanatics, but its a double edged sword, the game exclusive to PS3 attracts PS3 owners to a game that would have otherwise gone overlooked (how many gamers on consoles care or know about eve?) and at the same time, it allows CCP to appeal to a diverse and new audience through different means.

As for Xbox people saying it would have been better on 360, how so? What's the difference? :/ Besides, you're talking about a console that has no real MMOFPS experience as of yet because of all its tedious restrictions.

And for those whining about control set up, FPS' have been on consoles for years now and no one has ever complained, why is this suddenly an issue?

I personally don't understand the cynical attitude towards the game, if its a good FPS, I'll be sure to pick it up, anything beats playing CoD, every boring man and his dog plays that game, so what if I'd prefer to play something different?

If you were referring to my OP, I understand that COD isn't everything, but allot of people don't. It's hard for FPS games these days because COD fanboys are quick to decry anything in first person as a "COD ripoff". It's sad really, allot of innovative games that aren't trying to be like call of duty get unfairly demerited because "Cod did this or that better".

 

[AlexiVolkov]

It has been known for a long time that Dust would be ps3 exclusive, because of microsofts insane restrictions on the 360, but haters have to ignore reality.

In all honesty I'm excited for Dust. I can blow up space shit in Eve.. and I'll be able to shoot people in Dust. The interconnectivity of the two games is what is really going to make Dust something awesome. Being Free to play and driven by microtransactions with a currency that can be obtained via in game means certaintly does not hurt it.

Dust will in all likely hood do the same thing many other FPS's do, and what Eve currently does.. It will have it's core player base that sticks around for the long haul, and then have a fluxuating number of players ontop of that.

And if you really want to see tears about the PS3 exclusive... go look at the Eve forums... most of the front page of General discussion is all whine threads...

I checked it out once the news hit. I don't play Eve but I knew some would be discussing it.

SO MUCH WHINING! Half of the arguers barely even understand consoles in general. Hell one didn't even believe when someone said that MW2 sold a lot of copies... >.> You don't have to like the game but you can't deny that.

The blatant fanboism and just plain ingorance in those threads is astounding....
Dust will fail cuz its not on PC.
Dust will fail cuz its not on XboX, (this is due to either sony paying off CCP, or CCP being too ignorant to realize how vastly large the xbox market is compared to ps3 [when its like .5mil consoles sold diff] depending on who spews it..)
Dust will fail because its a CoD clone...
Dust will fail because its not enough like CoD...

And the straight up amount of pure venom and hatred in these peoples posts... They act like sony is the biggest evil in the world, and their downfall will suddenly bring about paradise... Completely ignoring the fact that some other company or group of companies would just take up the slack...
At least here on the Escapist... there is a rational discussion about it... even if all the sony hacker threads are full of people claiming sony is the devil and needs to burn for some supposed evil.

If you were referring to my OP, I understand that COD isn't everything, but allot of people don't. It's hard for FPS games these days because COD fanboys are quick to decry anything in first person as a "COD ripoff". It's sad really, allot of innovative games that aren't trying to be like call of duty get unfairly demerited because "Cod did this or that better".

If they are not comparing it to CoD, then they will compare it to Halo.. or GoW... because all xbox shooters are the defining pinacle of the genera and everything else is simply a knockoff...

Captcha: ropies issues yes they sure do have some serious issues captcha... they sure do.

 

[Korten12]

Dust will fail cuz its not on PC.

I love this one, not because it hates on PC gamers, but because they're complaining about this - what like two years after they announced Consoles only..?

 

[pulse2]

I think some people are missing a few things, CoD isn't everything and anything, yes its the most popular shooter, but that hasn't stopped other shooters doing well on PS3.

Resistance florishes online
Killzone flourishes online
MAG as far as I know still flourishes online, but it did in the first place which is the point

And these three are just examples outside of Battlefield and CoD, not everyone cares about CoD or Battlefield.

I understand that point made about cutting off PC eve fanatics, but its a double edged sword, the game exclusive to PS3 attracts PS3 owners to a game that would have otherwise gone overlooked (how many gamers on consoles care or know about eve?) and at the same time, it allows CCP to appeal to a diverse and new audience through different means.

As for Xbox people saying it would have been better on 360, how so? What's the difference? :/ Besides, you're talking about a console that has no real MMOFPS experience as of yet because of all its tedious restrictions.

And for those whining about control set up, FPS' have been on consoles for years now and no one has ever complained, why is this suddenly an issue?

I personally don't understand the cynical attitude towards the game, if its a good FPS, I'll be sure to pick it up, anything beats playing CoD, every boring man and his dog plays that game, so what if I'd prefer to play something different?

If you were referring to my OP, I understand that COD isn't everything, but allot of people don't. It's hard for FPS games these days because COD fanboys are quick to decry anything in first person as a "COD ripoff". It's sad really, allot of innovative games that aren't trying to be like call of duty get unfairly demerited because "Cod did this or that better".

That's my point and before that it was Halo this, halo that.

If the FPS genre is purely about CoD, then all other FPS developers might as well give up and take a shot in other genres or wait till CoD shoots itself in the foot and becomes pretty stale, that's already happening to Halo in my opinion, although they do add a bit here and there to keep it fresh, it just always seems like the same old same old, and I know that "what ain't broke..." but that's besides the point, its because the Tomb Raider devs took that mentality we are seeing a reboot and nothing annoys me more than stupid reboots of series that died because the developers got lazy and had dollar signs in their eyes, so kept milking the cow until it shrivelled up.

MAG wasn't a CoD, but it took a fresh spin, and for that I enjoyed it, Resistance and Killzone weren't Halo's, which is again, why I enjoyed them, I've already played countless Halo's, why would I want to play another monotonous one? I take the same attitude with CoD, I say good for you to all the people who see CoD as the be all and end all, but I'm bored of CoD, I'm bored out of my mind, there is only so much praising America and Britain as heros and the rest of the world as villains I can take and multiplayer isn't going to make that any less brain draining.

Dust may not be perfect, it may not be a CoD, but at the end of the day, as long as gameplay is fun, its glitch free and it looks interesting, you can count me in. Will I get MW3? Maybe, maybe not, I've already played MW, MW2 and Bops, how is this CoD any different apart from the campaign? -_- The only real pushing factor is that all my mates will be trading in their old CoD games to get the new one most likely, alas I won't be able to play against them. But if I have to keep buying new CoD games to keep up with my friends, I might as well find a new game altogether, make that my FPS of choice and meet new people.

I'm just making the point that people have to take a wait and see attitude before marking things down or up, people hyped Haze as a Halo killer and it flopped, people shrugged off Killzone 2 as a sequel to a lame supposed Halo killer and it did well, so lets not make rash assupmtions before we play the game.

 

[pulse2]

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Thats why I liked Heavenly Sword, people said it was a God of war game with a female, but no, no it wasn't, it was a superb game with a different way of fighting to God of war and in my opinion, far more tactical and less button bashing. It's only real flaw was how short it was. I'd like to see a sequel to it, more so then I would another sequel to GoW, I mean, how much more killing can he possibly have left to do? There's nothing left, everything is dead.

 

[AlexiVolkov]

Dust will fail cuz its not on PC.

I love this one, not because it hates on PC gamers, but because they're complaining about this - what like two years after they announced Consoles only..?

It is the same thing with being PS3 exclusive... they act like microsoft wanting a closed network for the 360 is some new revelation or simply made up on the spot by psn fanbois...

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Thats why I liked Heavenly Sword, people said it was a God of war game with a female, but no, no it wasn't, it was a superb game with a different way of fighting to God of war and in my opinion, far more tactical and less button bashing. It's only real flaw was how short it was. I'd like to see a sequel to it, more so then I would another sequel to GoW, I mean, how much more killing can he possibly have left to do? There's nothing left, everything is dead.

Everyone wants to throw around these "Its a [game] clone." Before GoW, they were DMC clones.. Before Halo/GoW, they were(and still are,) CoD clones. Dust is, if anything, a knockoff of Planetside... and even then it goes so very very far beyond that thanks to its integration with EvE.

I am really beginning to think that most gamers are turning into a new breed of hipsters... It has to be extremely similar to such and such franchise to be good, but if it is too similar, than it is a clone not worth even renting... It has to be super realistic and ultra HD graphics, but it can't be too realistic, and dirt can't be brown....

Just look at the DNF demo... people are seriously bitching because the driving portion of the demo is too brown... ITS IN THE FUCKING DESERT... Devs need to add a "NOT BROWN" option to games for all these whiners that turns everything bright fucking pink... see how much they ***** then.

 

[Korten12]

Just look at the DNF demo... people are seriously bitching because the driving portion of the demo is too brown... ITS IN THE FUCKING DESERT... Devs need to add a "NOT BROWN" option to games for all these whiners that turns everything bright fucking pink... see how much they ***** then.

So true! I would love to see that and see ppl's responses.

 

[Cowabungaa]

You're in a corporation as a DUST player, together with other DUST players and EVE players. You guys want to capture a planet, so your corporation sends a fleet to eliminate orbital defences and form a blockade. Meanwhile, the DUST players are called in to capture ground objectives and root out the existing garrison.

That would indeed be cool.
However, I have my doubts as to whether that's what will happen.

It will [http://www.dust514.com/en/news/article/1980/beginnings]:

This degree of socialization becomes even more significant when you factor in how vital corps are to both EVE Online and DUST 514. That?s because EVE and DUST share the same player-run corporations. That is to say, EVE Online players can join DUST 514 corps. Likewise, DUST 514 players can join EVE Online corporations.These social institutions are crucial to the long-term prospects of DUST 514.

It really works a lot like EVE, only on planets and with guns instead of spaceships. And I hope it won't take ages before you can see the coolest parts of the game, which is the only thing stopping me from playing EVE.

 

[Gunner_Guardian]

Part of me wonders, is this completely player driven?

If I boot up Dust for the first time what will I be doing? Can I automatically be matched with some corp that wants a lot of soldiers for cheap?

How big of an influence will Dust 514 have on a eve Universe?

Overall I'm quite excited for this game, I'll keep an eye on it to see how it evolves.

 

[Aerograt]

I would be happy about Dust 514 is CCP wasn't filled with twats who pulled the "Whaaaaaaaaat? This was once available to the 360 and you have one?" card. I was REALLY looking forward to this game and CCP pulls this crap. (edit: Apparently this is Microsoft's deal... Hmmm, not really surprised now that I know that. Still pissed though.)

Funny thing is that I'm getting account updates from CCP about boring as fuck EVE Online. Yeah, I'm sure I'll pay for the auto attack and you level up when you don't play Edition of wannabe Star Wars.

 

[darksaber64x]

Eve is one of those amazing games that I just couldn't keep myself interested in playing. Played it for over two years, and couldn't personally deal with the massive loss that was around every corner. Plus knowing to get ahead, I would have to take away hard earned resources from other players just didn't feel right.

But I love this idea, and am really looking forward to reading how it all turns out. If I had a PS3, I would get this game, simply so I could support the friends I gained while playing EVE.