Dying Light's new patch remove element of real world violence against women. (spoilers)

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IceStar100

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Title I hope is not miss leading. Just so you know I'm no news man but I think it's important to get thw word out.

Ok dying light had a place old town. Later in the game someone name Troy a female. She has a scarred face. There was a line where she talks about out. What happens is her brother threw acid on her face because she requested to go to school. She make the comment that it took the end of the world before men would pay attention to her. The line has since been removed. This is real world stuff that happens. Women are abused for wanting to elevate them selves. This was one of dying light few moment of real story telling. They took it out because they don't feel it adds to the story line. May they are also afraid it will hurt sell.

Where it came to light at least for me is Gamefaqs
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/716561-dying-light/71218558

Also a more indept story has been done with the publishers responce given

http://www.alternet.org/culture/why-did-best-selling-video-game-dying-light-remove-line-dialogue-about-violence-against


If anyone can make that more clear or want to add to it because I miss represent something please do. Also here hoping I didn't break any rules. Like I said I mostly want to get the word out. If for no other reason then to show we as gamer are old enough to see the world as it really is. We can handle the hard stories. We want real story with people life the good and the bad.

(Caption Glass ceiling something funny about that.)
 

IceStar100

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It makes no sense that they would remove that, I mean, who are they trying to please here?
 

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So, all that remains to be determined is whether they did it to appease the how-dare-you-make-light-of-real-violence-against-women crowd or the how-dare-you-mention-gender-issues-in-my-game crowd.

Then we can get down to the fun part, assigning blame and having a big argument!
 

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Zhukov said:
Then we can get down to the fun part, assigning blame and having a big argument!
What on earth are you talking about? We don't need to determine anything before we start pointing fingers.

I personally think they did it because the dialogue was secretly a backmasked advert for Chupa Chups, but the marketing contract suddenly expired.
 

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Fieldy409 said:
Havent played the game, buy Id guess they were worried about offending the country the character was from.
Turkey I belivie not sure how the game selling there.

Caiphus said:
Zhukov said:
Then we can get down to the fun part, assigning blame and having a big argument!
What on earth are you talking about? We don't need to determine anything before we start pointing fingers.

I personally think they did it because the dialogue was secretly a backmasked advert for Chupa Chups, but the marketing contract suddenly expired.
No idea what a chua chup is soooooooo

Anyway I would hope it would matter less about who to blame and more about not letting it get swept under the rug so east. We will see if these even goes anywhere. My true feeling is Dying light is so bland it will vanish under the rug and no one will really care.
 

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Perhaps they felt a mutilated woman lamenting about not getting attention from men was in poor taste. No reason to remove the rest of it though, I mean that is a thing that happens. I don't think there is a ton of that kind of violence against women in Turkey, but there was a big case a while back in which multiple Turkish Kurds in Central/West Asia were attacked with acid, so it's perfectly plausible. In fact given the whole "it's a zombie apocalypse but the REAL MONSTER IS MAN theme in most zombie stories I'd say it's totally appropriate.
 

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My guess would be that they noticed it was jarringly out of place in their kind of silly game about zombies that tended towards B-movie esque plotlines otherwise.
 

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Zhukov said:
So, all that remains to be determined is whether they did it to appease the how-dare-you-make-light-of-real-violence-against-women crowd or the how-dare-you-mention-gender-issues-in-my-game crowd.

Then we can get down to the fun part, assigning blame and having a big argument!
URRRRRRRRRRGH! This thread is just gonna be a big pile of fun.

OT: I fall into the former crowd. I have heard some nasty things about these kinds of things, and frankly I don't really agree with this decision. I mean...why do it? Did the developer chicken out? Lame.
 

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I didn't even notice it was there. I don't really care whether it stays or goes, because she was a forgettable character with few lines anyway.
 

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Sounds like the kind of dialogue I would completely ignore because I'm busy surviving the living dead.
 

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Rayce Archer said:
Perhaps they felt a mutilated woman lamenting about not getting attention from men was in poor taste.
Dude, 'being noticed' can mean something other than 'yay, they want to fuck me now!' Looking at the context it way more natural to assume she means 'it took an apocalypse for them to acknowledge I'm a human being with talents and thoughts of my own'.
 

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Well I definitely won't get it any time soon if they're the kinds of developers that think it's fine to cut things out of games that people have already paid for.
 

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Really seems like a silly thing to cut... It also seems like a really silly thing to put in the game as a throw away line of a NPC that has nothing to do with the mainstory.

I mean I haven't gotten to that place, but it feels to me based on this post that it's kinda like the human sex slave auction in Watch Dogs, just kinda superfluous.

I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, but if one is going to touch upon such issues you either go all in or go home.
 

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So... They remove a single line of dialogue because its "offensive to women" in an open world zombie game where blood and gore is literally everywhere?

If they find that offensive they might as well just remove all female zombies from that game. It's so stupid.
 

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VincentX3 said:
So... They remove a single line of dialogue because its "offensive to women" in an open world zombie game where blood and gore is literally everywhere?

If they find that offensive they might as well just remove all female zombies from that game. It's so stupid.
It's a good chuckle watching people project their biases onto this.

Actually, nothing was said about being "offensive to women". The reason given by the game's makers was that it didn't fit the game's tone.
 

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Zhukov said:
VincentX3 said:
So... They remove a single line of dialogue because its "offensive to women" in an open world zombie game where blood and gore is literally everywhere?

If they find that offensive they might as well just remove all female zombies from that game. It's so stupid.
It's a good chuckle watching people project their biases onto this.

Actually, nothing was said about being "offensive to women". The reason given by the game's makers was that it didn't fit the game's tone.
It does make me wonder what the actual line of logic that made them decide this particular line didn't fit the tone of the game though. This game does get pretty dark at times, with things like: cannibalism, killing a child's father with the child hiding in the next room, a small child almost dying to diabetes, dealing with a character's infected wife that he couldn't work up the nerve to kill, lines dealing with things like government corruption and classism, and being one of the very few games that actually lets you kill children, zombie children, but still children, and I don't mean that lame put to sleep animation if you melee them, if you see one from far enough away you can blow their heads off with a gun.

The only real line of reasoning I can come up with is that maybe they thought it was too specifically topical, as the rest of the game is just kind of generic Middle East/ Turkey with a bizarrely diverse number of western European, Australian, and American accents thrown in.

Really kind of a bizarre decision all around, nobody was raising a stink over the line, it hardly seemed to be something that would provoke a lot of controversy in a game that's already kind of walking back and forth between trying to be silly and serious.