Dynasty Warriors; when will this series end?

[Jumpman]

Considering the Dynasty Warriors games are based on real Chinese history and real characters, there isn't really a lot of scope for change, story wise.

It's like saying, when are WW2 games going to change. Why does it always have to be the Americans and Allies fighting the Germans and Japanese? Couldn't they make a WW2 where the Americans and Japanese are fighting the British and Germans in India?
All these companies just keep releasing the same FPS WW2 games with the same weapons and storyline, just with slightly different graphics and controls.

I'm a fan of the series and have bought every instalment, and I like the way Koei update the games, as they learn to push the capabilities of the platform more and more.
I can see a vast improvement in the games from DW2 to DW5, how they have pushed the engine more and more, improving graphic, introducing more playable characters, redesigning and adding new stages, recording new voice dialogue, and tweaking game concepts.

They're really not going to take to many liberties with history and change the story though, because that would be kind of stupid.

Anyway, they're only release another game every year, not every 5 or six moths as some people see it, which for fans, is better than resting on their laurels and not updating the games.

You can argue that each instalment is just a $60 mod of the same game, but how else would they release mods on the PS2 other than make it a new game? It's not like you can download mods and patches and save it on a 8MB memory card.

They do make more than the Dynasty Warriors games, but most are release in Japan, and only the Dynasty Warriors, Samurai Warriors, Warriors Orochi, Bladestorm, and Kessen get released over here.

ok, alot of valid points here. thanks for the input. I admit that im fairly unfamiliar with koei and their other games, and I can certainly understand your point about the inability to ad patches to older consoles.

I am however somewhat familiar with the romance of the three kingdoms (the chinese epic the games are based on) and I dont really buy the whole historical accuracy argument. other than the names of the characters and locations, the series has very little to do with the story (which itself is often considered as much a fiction as a history) The weaponry, armor, technology, and many other aspects were invented entirely for the game, and the personality of many of the characters bears only a passing resemblence to their historicle forbears. not to mention that many of the characters were invented purely for the game.

finally id like to adress the point you made about how they release a game every year. It seems to me that you've proved my point. the fact that it takes them only a year to make another game (while also devoting time to other series as you mentioned) seems a clear indication that most of the content is just copied and pasted from the last one. Bungie has taken almost two and a half years to make recon, and its not even a full size game. Gears of War has taken nearly three for its sequel. Tim Schaefer hasnt even finished making his first game for the current generation of consoles. I think one could argue that given the scope and size of todays gaming industry, any mainstream game that can be completed and sold in a single year has got to be flawed on a critical level.

 

[TheIceface]

Here's a little tidbit of information: The Chinese who are knowledgeable about history as well as this series hate the game. Or at least the newest version, in which they have some katana-wielding dude.

Specifically they hate that Guan Yu has a beard in the game, although he only had it at the very end of his life before he got beheaded.

 

[Yuriatayde]

I'd like to point out Dynasty Warriors Orochi (and the same game with a "2" pasted at the end of it) as something that more WW2 games need to do. By which I mean, lets make the americans all supermans, and the germans into incredible hulks or something. Mess things up! It can be fun... And they'd throw cars instead of shooting guns... x3

Also, they needa learn to STOP improving graphics until they can find a way to do so without sacrificing the gameplay. DW6 on the PS2? Forget it. Enemies blink in and out of existence to prevent slowdowns, ends up being unplayable. Multiplayer is like this for ALL OF THEM, every single DW game has horrible multiplayer graphics overloads and that just kills the whole series for me.

 

[Otaru Ikari]

I admit I love the Dynasty Warriors games. And yes I agree that they have been getting a bit repetitive, yet I keep buying the new ones anyway just to see any special differences.

It was actually nice to see different weapons on DW6 though, changed the game up a bit for me even though the objectives were still pretty much the same.

 

[tijuanatim]

Dynasty Warriors, Sonic, and Silent Hill should all be locked in a cage and fight to the death. With the winner receiving a one way ticket to Siberia.

 

[Snikburz]

I've bought a couple of DW games, and every time it's pretty entertaining, but not for very long. And that's the problem, too repetetive.

Although I think KOEI has a lot going with their one vs. many games, and I love one vs. many. Samurai Warriors was an interesting change of pace.

But if you wanna try a KOEI game like this thats not DW or SW, I recommend Bladestorm, set in the Hundred Years War.

 

[stevenrkorea]

I have no idea why people throw all the hate at Dynasty Warriors for being 'the same'. Why not hate sports games? Wow...guess what, you play football in Madden '09...the exact same as Madden '08. Why not hate Metal Gear? Wow...a spy sneaking around a base trying to stop...get this, a Mech that can launch nukes.

Dynasty Warriors offers solid 3rd person action where you get to run around and murder thousands of soldiers. While doing it, you fight bosses all over the place, search for new and better weapons, find mounts, level up the mounts, level up your character.

The games usually have about 40+ characters to play with, while some are clones, they do have pretty cool and unique stuff for most of them.

Does it get repetitive? Sure, it does. But so does Diablo II. But when you are having repetitive fun, who cares?

Any ways, I am glad the Dynasty Warrior games keep getting made and I'm glad that they keep making their way out of Japan as well. I'm looking forward to the 2nd Gundam Musou game which will hopefully make it out of Japan this year. And maybe there'll be a Dynasty Warriors 7 announcement later this year. That would be awesome.

 

[fedpayne]

They will end 5-7 working days after I post this package...

 

[Leeathal]

anyone notice how they randomly started pronouncing Cao Cao's name with an S sound instead of a C? too many cow jokes I guess.

Not to be a geek but iv read romance of the three kingdoms both volumes and never is it cao cao, his name is t'ao t'ao and is pronounced taio taio

 

[Leeathal]

Considering the Dynasty Warriors games are based on real Chinese history and real characters, there isn't really a lot of scope for change, story wise.

The problem with this is that the history is only based on the shus point of view as it was recorded by them. There is little record of wu and wei forces and history except for pictures and shus story.

 

[Erana]

Whenever the Final Fantasy series ends.

 

[Neosage]

When killing hundreds of men in a single stroke accompanied by cheesy guitar solos becomes boring

 

[Baonec]

When people like me stop buying them. (I have 2,3,4,4 empires,5,5 empires,6,tactics,tactics 2, samurai warriors 1,2,2 empires... I don't intend on stopping.)

 

[ultimasupersaiyan]

Dynasty Warriors was a great series of games but DW6 was a massive disappoinment. Granted they are very samey and DW: Gundam was just a new skin but it had charm. DW to me has always seemed like a game that should have been an arcade game you pump coins into and should have been a low price title. DW shouldn't really die... just become a downloadable game for consoles.

 

[Jerakal]

When people stop buying them, surprise, surprise.

And when they stop being amusing.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

Depends, when do you think Mario will end?

Mario is a franchise, and DW isn't (and if it is, then i would like to know how). So DW has no right to have so many sequels that are so similar.

And mario will end when Nintendo find's a suitable replacement (which will be never) or when they run out of ideas (when Miyamoto goes cold turkey on the crack).

 

[ultimasupersaiyan]

Depends, when do you think Mario will end?

Mario is a franchise, and DW isn't (and if it is, then i would like to know how). So DW has no right to have so many sequels that are so similar.

And mario will end when Nintendo find's a suitable replacement (which will be never) or when they run out of ideas (when Miyamoto goes cold turkey on the crack).

Dude... too far. Plus Mario IS Nintendo, without Mario Nintendo will be belly up in the gaming world.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

Depends, when do you think Mario will end?

Mario is a franchise, and DW isn't (and if it is, then i would like to know how). So DW has no right to have so many sequels that are so similar.

And mario will end when Nintendo find's a suitable replacement (which will be never) or when they run out of ideas (when Miyamoto goes cold turkey on the crack).

Dude... too far. Plus Mario IS Nintendo, without Mario Nintendo will be belly up in the gaming world.

Meh I disagree really, I feel nintendo would have found some other suitable mascot, or they would have paid more attention to their other 2329488 franchises, I think without mario they wouldnt be as popular, but probably still huge.

Pit could probably have taken the helm, for example.