E3 2017 thread

[major_chaos]

I'm only watching the things that interest me, but here are my feelings so far:

Well that Anthem trailer was a giant pile of nothing, but it promises a gameplay reveal today (11th) so I'll reserve judgement until I see that.

Ace Combat 7 trailer was super hype. Looks like a return to the wonderfully cheesy yet somehow moving tone of AC 5, one of my favorite games of all time.

Pathfinder: Kingmaker looks absolutely uninteresting. The ass-ugly graphics are certainly a turn off, but the bigger issue is that I actually dislike Pathfinder/DnD gameplay. I play it for the infinite possibilities that come with human players and a good GM. Translating that gameplay literally to a videogame and stripping the human element sounds awful.

Bloodstained looks like it 100% nailed the gameplay, movement, and feel of SoTN, which is exactly what I wanted when I tossed $100 at it during the kickstarter. My only issue is that the enviroments not only don't look very good, they don't even look like they mesh well with the actors within them.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Battlefield 1: In the Name of the Tsar
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!

Wha... What did they do there?

OT: I just realized there was NO news at all for other Star Wars games besides Battlefront. Boooo EA, boooo! Seriously, what the fuck have ya'll been doing for all these years?

 

[Zhukov]

Battlefield 1: In the Name of the Tsar
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!

Wha... What did they do there?

Use your ears.

Or just look at the soldier posing in the ending title screen. I'm pretty sure that's Maria Bochkareva.

 

[Zhukov]

While I'm at it, does anyone here know of anywhere that gathers together all the trailers and previews from E3s? As in, just the actual trailer and previews, not all the fucking fluff that surrounds them? A website or specifc Youtube channel perhaps?

Every year I find myself wishing for this. It's annoying having to search through a mountain of corporate press conferences, dumbfuck speculation videos, "live reactions" of screeching youtubers trying to hitch a ride on the hype, IGN clowns sitting around a desk pretending to be commentators and interviews with fucking Twitch streamers just to find the actual game material I'm interested in.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Use your ears.

Or just look at the soldier posing in the ending title screen. I'm pretty sure that's Maria Bochkareva.

I still don't get it. Is it a history thing or something? My WWI history isn't that great.

While I'm at it, does anyone here know of anywhere that gathers together all the trailers and previews from E3s? As in, just the actual trailer and previews, not all the fucking fluff that surrounds them? A website or specifc Youtube channel perhaps?

IGN usually does compilations on their website, but good luck using their video player.

You'd probably be able to find a play list on YouTube. Maybe not now, I just checked and there doesn't seem to be one.

 

[Zhukov]

Use your ears.

Or just look at the soldier posing in the ending title screen. I'm pretty sure that's Maria Bochkareva.

I still don't get it. Is it a history thing or something? My WWI history isn't that great.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Bochkareva

She isn't all that widely known about.

 

[Bedinsis]

I only caught a glimpse of EA's presentation, but it looks like it followed the same pattern as last year, i.e. a focus on the yearly releases that fail to excite me. And a sprinkling of their AAA indie games*, aka. EA originals.

One thing I noticed this year which I sincerely hope is not indicative of something ugly, but I still think is worthy to point out:

In 2015 the EA original featured was Unravel, by Coldwood from Sweden.
In 2016 the EA original featured was Fe, by Zoink Games from Sweden.
In 2017 the EA original featured was A way out, by Hazelight from Sweden.

Combine that with how Need for Speed nowadays are made by Ghost Games, from Sweden, and it feels like Patrick S?derlund might be expressing some nationalistic tendencies in what games they chose to pick up.

Or he might not, and it just so happens that these studios were the most able to produce something worthwhile for the EA heads and they have the most historical trust.

*in this context the term means a game with the scope of an indie game but with the presentation of a high budget game.

 

[pookie101]

apparently Biowares new IP is called anthem.. and you can expect something along the lines of destiny

Like, setting wise? Or a co-op FPS?

Cause Bioware+Shooter is just a train full of dumpster fires waiting to fly off the tracks.

both apparently.

doesnt seem to be an announcement of andromeda dlc either.. so looks like they have killed it. sucks i was looking forward to dlc for it.

all up they didnt announce anything that caught my interest

 

[sXeth]

The armor look like generic tech suit armor, really. Destiny hops to mind because the wall scene, the mask on the one armor looks like the main NPC leaders from that game, and they even use the same foghorn-type sound Bungie did in all their trailers. Similar looking armor pops up in everything from Iron Man to Saints Row to Ark though.

I was reminded of Destiny with the wall thing as well (and I'm hedging my bets that Anthem will be a 'shared world shooter' similar to Destiny as well), but if there's a similar setup, I don't think that Destiny is necessarily the first point of call. The idea of 'watchers at the wall' has plenty of historical (Hadrian's Wall, Great Wall, etc.) and fictional (too many to count) precedent. That said, I can't say the armour reminds me of Destiny. Destiny is science fantasy, and commits to that in everything ranging from story to aesthetics, and that includes its armour design, combing future armour with classical armour styles (Warhammer 40,000 is another example of sci-fa armour with the Space Marines). Anthem on the other hand seems like regular sci-fi.

Destiny does that now, particularly with the last Iron Lord expansion thing.

It was very bog standard sci-fi aesthetics for player characters (a couple of NPCs went a bit more medievalish) for most of the first half of its life cycle though. Warlocks were complaining for the longest while about not getting robes or hoods.

Watchers at the wall is nothing new, but that literally looks like Destiny's wall, with Destiny's color pallette on the region outside it too.

 

[Mcgeezaks]

A Way Out looked very interesting, will probably buy it for PS4 so me and my brother can play it together. I want more games that put a heavy emphasis on story AND coop where both players have an equal impact in the story.

Battlefront 2 looked good, looks like they learned what went wrong with the first one and greatly improved the sequel.

NFS looked meh, like a weird mix between Burnout and Fast & Furious. The car physics looks pretty bad and so does the damage to the cars, which is weird since they seem to kind of focus on car crashes.

Anthem sounds very interesting and I can't wait to see more on it tomorrow. If I understand this correctly, it's made by the main team at Bioware and not the team that made the multiplayer portion of ME3 and of course Andromeda. So it feels like peoples anger towards them are misguided.

 

[MHR]

HALF-LIFE 3! YUSSSSS! DDDDDD

But for seriously, I'll just be looking at Shadow of War and maybe have a glance at some other stuff to see if it surprises me or not.

 

[Rangaman]

So I'm a bit late, but I'm told EA's conference was mostly just sports games, right? Such as "the most innovative Madden yet" (that seems like a meme waiting to happen). There were only a few others on display, and I don't know too much about what was shown but, nevertheless:

Need for Speed: Another One: Open-world driving sims aren't really my thing, pass.
Anthem: Christ I hope this is Bioware's Breath of the Wild or Sonic Colours, because they're already pretty dead to me.
A Way Out: A local-only MP-focused game? That's ballsy. Could be good.
Star Wars: Battlefront II: The first one was alright, so I think enough additions (that I don't have to pay for, you bastards) could make it work. I'm not holding my breath though.

 

[Hawki]

It was very bog standard sci-fi aesthetics for player characters (a couple of NPCs went a bit more medievalish) for most of the first half of its life cycle though. Warlocks were complaining for the longest while about not getting robes or hoods.

Yeah, but even then, Destiny struck me as very much sci-fa. As in:

-A force called "the Light," by Guardians with names like "warlock" and "titan," fighting against the forces of "the Darkness," which include "wizards" (who come from the moon).

-The idea of a last city, utilizing walls, which is a fantasy trope.

-To quote, "Destiny was designed to be "mythic science fiction"?a world rooted in science, but with fantastical elements. Originally it was more akin to pure fantasy, with designs for knights, swords and sorcery in a white city on a hill. However, the designers thought they were denying themselves as per their preference for science fiction, so they decided to incorporate the elements together." (In other words, science fantasy - mixing sci-fi and fantasy elements together, which is pretty much the definition of sci-fa).

Granted, I say all this as someone who's never played Destiny, but as someone who has played Marathon and Halo (both by Bungie, very much sci-fi), Destiny even from the outset struck me as a shift from sci-fi to sci-fa. It also helps that there's elements of their Myth (fantasy) series incorporated into Destiny, along with tropes that began in Marathon/Halo.

Anthem sounds very interesting and I can't wait to see more on it tomorrow. If I understand this correctly, it's made by the main team at Bioware and not the team that made the multiplayer portion of ME3 and of course Andromeda. So it feels like peoples anger towards them are misguided.

It's being made by the TOR team. I don't know if there's really a 'main' BioWare studio now though, but you are right that it isn't from the Andromeda team.

 

[Dalsyne]

Ah yes, the EA conference. Quite possibly one of the most boring roundups I've ever seen. Good thing I just watched the abridged version.

I have zero hype for any of those games. I might have liked SWBattlefront 2 and A Way Out but it's highly unlikely I'll be playing either of those. So... meh.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Kingdom Hearts 3 Gameplay Trailer:

 

[Yoshi178]

Kingdom Hearts 3 Gameplay Trailer:

game looks cool. i'll probs be picking this up as i've never played a Kingdom Hearts game before.

that's some shitty voice acting in that trailer though.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Kingdom Hearts 3 Gameplay Trailer:

game looks cool. i'll probs be picking this up as i've never played a Kingdom Hearts game before.

that's some shitty voice acting in that trailer though.

Well it's kind of like a reverse-dub (well, it's just a dub), so that's expected. The english VAs should be a lot better (for the Disney characters at least).

 

[sXeth]

It was very bog standard sci-fi aesthetics for player characters (a couple of NPCs went a bit more medievalish) for most of the first half of its life cycle though. Warlocks were complaining for the longest while about not getting robes or hoods.

Yeah, but even then, Destiny struck me as very much sci-fa. As in:

-A force called "the Light," by Guardians with names like "warlock" and "titan," fighting against the forces of "the Darkness," which include "wizards" (who come from the moon).

-The idea of a last city, utilizing walls, which is a fantasy trope.

-To quote, "Destiny was designed to be "mythic science fiction"?a world rooted in science, but with fantastical elements. Originally it was more akin to pure fantasy, with designs for knights, swords and sorcery in a white city on a hill. However, the designers thought they were denying themselves as per their preference for science fiction, so they decided to incorporate the elements together." (In other words, science fantasy - mixing sci-fi and fantasy elements together, which is pretty much the definition of sci-fa).

Granted, I say all this as someone who's never played Destiny, but as someone who has played Marathon and Halo (both by Bungie, very much sci-fi), Destiny even from the outset struck me as a shift from sci-fi to sci-fa. It also helps that there's elements of their Myth (fantasy) series incorporated into Destiny, along with tropes that began in Marathon/Halo.

Ah yeah, it was pretty heavy in that. Though weirdly they got more straight with the stuff as it went on. It stopped being "the Darkness" (or at least moved off from that as an antagonist) and started explaining the main villains as symbiotes of some sort of space worm Cthulhu things. Then the second expansion was Nanotech prettymuch, and sort of highlighted the Vanguard/Iron Lords being weird superstitious people when they kept acting like it was some sort of elder evil (from a meta perspective, played pretty straight in story, although everyone seems cool when you beat the raid and start running around with SIVA guns lol).

Space magic was most certainly a thing, and not really explained in any way vaguely resembling hard sci-fi. But a lot of the weird fantasy accouterments around it were just specific to the pseudo-religion of the setting. Which in those weird wiki cards, apparently was not always the case, with previous occasions of warring guardians, rogue guardians, revolutions against the Speaker/Church rule, and so on. Which was allegedly the original plot, and who knows why they dumped it other then the writer apparently owned it when he left or something.

 

[Marik2]

Super unrealistic but i'm hoping that From Software either does two things ....

1. Announce another IP / game they're working on.
2. Release Bloodborne onto the PC / other consoles

Very unlikely, hell I don't even know if they're attending this year's E3 but one could only dream.

People are hoping for a bloodborne 2

 

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

The X-box one X, Really? that sounds like a parody. Is the next consequent to be called super Ultra mega Xbox one triple X edition. May have beaten Wii-u For weird and stupid console names