E3 Keynote Speaker Says Non-Christians Will Burn In Hell

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Andy Chalk

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E3 Keynote Speaker Says Non-Christians Will Burn In Hell


Texas Governor Rick Perry, who will deliver the keynote address at this year's E3, has stirred controversy by affirming the comments of a Cornerstone Church [http://www.sacornerstone.com/]minister who said non-Christians will be condemned to Hell.

Governor Perry spent the majority of a 90-minute service at the San Antonio Dallas Morning News [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megachurch], during the service Hagee said, "If you live your life and don't confess your sins to God almighty through the authority of Christ and his blood, I'm going to say this very plainly, you're going straight to Hell with a nonstop ticket." He also prodded his audience to fight "moral weakness," to vote for religious candidates and oppose same-sex marriage, saying, "God is the Supreme Court."

Perry said at a rally after the service that he believes in Biblical inerrancy [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_inerrancy], and that nothing said during the service struck him as out of line. Later in the day while at a different venue, Perry said, "I don't know that there's any human being that has the ability to interpret what God and his final decision-making is going to be. That's what the faith says. I understand, and my caveat there is that an all-knowing God certainly transcends my personal ability to make that judgment black and white."

"Before we get into Buddha and all the others, I get a little confused there," he continued. "But the fact is that we live in a pluralistic world but our faith is real personal. And my Christian faith teaches that the way is through Jesus Christ."

Perry's comments are particularly salient to gamers in light of his selection as keynote speaker at this year's "forward-thinking leadership" [http://www.e3summit08.com/] in encouraging the growth of the videogame industry in Texas as the reason for his selection, comments he made despite a law signed into effect in 2007 that denies financial incentives to developers who produce games with "inappropriate content."


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PedroSteckecilo

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So the governor of texas is... an ignorant ass. Not suprised.

These comments are really nothing new... in fact it's kinda one of the major facets of Historical Christianity.
 

Geoffrey42

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1. I disagree with what was said in the church wholeheartedly, and nothing said during the service struck me as out-of-line either. They're in a church. Saying that their beliefs are the truth. What's new?
2. The man stated that was not overly familiar with other religions and their deities, and that despite there being multiple religions in the world, he had personal faith. At no point did he express an intolerance to others.
3. NEWSFLASH: Vast Majority of Christians Say Non-Christians Will Burn in Hell (Caveat: Not all Christians believe in the fire-and-brimstone of the revivalists, but many believe in Hell, and its general unpleasantness, and that the heathens are headed there)

The one major, relevant point of all of this, is buried in the very last sentence: the man chosen to speak at E3 has passed legislation that is not in the spirit of freedom of expression with relation to videogames. But, then again, if a company were making a teledildonics game, many taxpayers would be upset that the company was receiving tax incentives to do so. Dude is serving his constituency. Whose axe is being ground here?

EDIT: On reading the source article, it would appear that the axes are those of the man's upcoming election competition.
EDIT^2: Noticed that my opening statement was too vague about what exactly I disagree with. Clarified.
 

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Well, it's true that the thought of burning in eternal hell really bothers me, especially as an atheist.

I can't think of anything worse than eternal suffering in a place I don't think exists.
 

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Lucky there is no God or Hell or I might have been worried. What worries me though is that the majority of politicians (and people for that matter) seem to be led about by some guy (or girl) they haven't even met. But as long as he doesn't present any religious views at E3 then I'll let him be.
 

Sibren

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Can you imagine how terrible heaven must be? Only stuck up pricks like that hanging around, so boring! All other fun people are hanging out in the bahama hell. I know what I would choose :).

Anyway, if the only thing that matters to a God would be believing in him / her, regardless of whether you live a good life or not, is a God not worth worshipping.
 

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Hell only works as a threat if you believe in it. I am an atheist. Crisis averted!

Okay, there is Hell, Michigan, but that's more a tourist destination off I-94 than anything else.
 

Ultrajoe

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HalfShadow said:
There is no god and hell is other people.
"YOU HAVE HEARD THAT HELL IS OTHER PEOPLE?"
"of course"
"IN TIME YOU WILL LEARN THAT THIS IS NOT TRUE"

- DEATH to Vorbis in Terry Pratchetts 'Small Gods', a book that has some of the most clever commentary on religion i have ever read slipped seamlessly into a damn good story...

ONTOPIC: Its religion, you get things like this said... it was in a church after all, it wasn't like he was shouting it through the mailboxes of atheists, but even as a christian i find the 'heathens go to hell' thing a little strong.

Heathens go to hell by default? i know plenty of assholes that attend my church and ill be damned if i spend eternity with them over my firends...

Damned... see what i did there?
 

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I was going to say how surprised I was about the intelligent responses to this thread, until I saw the one above (Indigo). I don't see the point in posting a newslink like this. He prefaces the statement by admitting to being blunt and isn't going to beat-around-the-bush like most politicians do, so good for him :)
 
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"I don't know that there's any human being that has the ability to interpret what God and his final decision-making is going to be."
"If you live your life and don't confess your sins to God almighty through the authority of Christ and his blood, I'm going to say this very plainly, you're going straight to Hell with a nonstop ticket."
Nuff said. Preacher play with thyself.
 

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HalfShadow said:
Any religion that suggests that if you don't do what you're told means spending eternity getting tortured is nothing more than slavery.
Well, most religions do that, so yeh...

Look, the guy believes what he says. He probably shouldn't have said it to a gaming public, who (sorry if this comes off as a stereotype) aren't that interested in religion, but want to focus on gaming. He was out of place. What I'm trying to get at here is that what he said is out of place, and maybe he should've kept his religion to himself, especially at E3... I mean, we just wanna game, not go into religion.
 

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This guy is a real tosser. Yea there is beleiving in something, then there is threatening other people with their beleive. I don't mind religious speakers, sometimes I enjoy them even though I'm not religious. For example, I was at a wedding, the guy was talking about how 'the man upstairs' looks after us. That is a lovely thing to say. But when people like this start running their mouths off, the ban-hammer should come down!
 

Andy Chalk

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I think one of the reasons some of us are shocked by these comments - and some others aren't - lies with the fact that many Americans don't understand that overt religious behaviour is a big no-no in the political arena in most of the rest of the western world, while people in other countries fail to grasp how important the demonstration of (Christian) faith is to the political milieu in the US. It's so deeply puzzling to some, and so second-nature to others, that there's an inevitable disconnect.

The relevance of the story to gamers, which seems to be in question here and on other sites that have carried the news, comes not from the man's personal beliefs but from the very puzzling fact that he was chosen as the keynote speaker for E3. The motivations behind his choice are a complete mystery, but given the ongoing implosion taking place at the ESA - the agency behind E3 - any kind of dodgy publicity or questionable move is absolutely the last thing they need.
 

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"People think they vote, but we merely entertain them while we make sure that this fine theocracy plan we had in the box does come to fruition."
In other words, another (beardless) retard.
And these retards will burn in my Hell, the one I just made up because I can also write down a fanfiction and claim stupid things, half based on reality, half based on crack.
 

Geoffrey42

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
"I don't know that there's any human being that has the ability to interpret what God and his final decision-making is going to be."
"If you live your life and don't confess your sins to God almighty through the authority of Christ and his blood, I'm going to say this very plainly, you're going straight to Hell with a nonstop ticket."
Nuff said. Preacher play with thyself.
I will have to admit that whatever you are saying has gone completely over my head. Just to be clear, you are aware that you're quoting two different people? The priest is stating to his congregation his interpretation of the religion, and the Governor is expressing that despite his beliefs and how he was raised, he doesn't think any man really knows what God is thinking. What am I missing here?

@The Atheists: You do realize that your disbelief only protects you from the "threat" of hell. If God is real, and certain portions of the Bible turn out to be true, your disbelief will not save you from Hell itself.

Indigo_Dingo said:
Why is this guy speaking at E3? Why is he not in an asylum somewhere?
I believe the article explicitly states why the guy has been asked to speak at E3. Per the asylum, at what point did it become a good idea to lock people up for their religious beliefs? I don't recall theistic beliefs as a category in the DSM-IV...

stompy said:
He probably shouldn't have said it to a gaming public, who (sorry if this comes off as a stereotype) aren't that interested in religion, but want to focus on gaming. He was out of place. What I'm trying to get at here is that what he said is out of place, and maybe he should've kept his religion to himself, especially at E3...
I get the distinct impression that you did not read the article before posting. Congratulations! *stompy earns Internet License Demerit*