The_root_of_all_evil said:
Arbre said:
Love is an emotion any normal human can feel.
You don't have to put love to trials, according to scientific standards to verify its existence, since we come with it by default, anyone can feel it, and it has obviously nothing to do with a belief whatsoever.
I mean, Cheeze, just drop the point. I know you like stretching discussions, but this is really getting absurd.
Sorry, I agree with Cheeze; how can you deny something purely on the basis that it might not be there?
Because I want proof that it's there. Don't you get it?
Otherwise, I could claim any stupid thing, even stuff you wouldn't like to hear about your family for example, then claim I'm right, after getting sure that you cannot observe it and voila.
Measure Love for me with your Science and THEN you can decide whether it exists or is some form of Belief.
I don't have to put love under the scrutiny of science to show that it exists.
Everyone can feel love, just as much as nearly everyone can feel pain, even if those two things are slightly different. We are born with them (of course, there are some defects here and there, but that's not the point).
You have an irrational belief system built around Science, so that just makes you another Theist.
No, I think you don't really understand what science is about.
Science not only has been proven wrong on occasions (Brontosaurus, Cryptozoology, Even Gravity), has started a lot of wars and still can't explain certain things; even things it's made up itself.
And?
Why do Supercooled Liquids display Anti-Gravity?
Why is our genotype so close to that of chimps?
Or are you gonna use the old "Can God create a rock so massive that he can't lift it?"?
My back hurts, so he won't have to push himself too hard.
Ultrajoe said:
So you think because this man has beliefs and thoughts other than those concerned with gaming he is ineligible to speak at E3? In a completely unrelated matter he speaks on a completely different issue and now he's a fuckhead?
The "fuckhead" comment was formulated in regards to his absurd belief of eternal torment for anyone who doesn't agree with him and millions of other same minded people.
Allow me to suggest a slight modification:
A million fuckheads.
Yes, much better.
It is possible (stay with me here) that at E3, the man will give a perfectly reasonable speech and not mention faith at all? he might *gasp* have interests other than those he's suddenly being berated for!
It's also possible that someone with more insightful things to say about games could have been chosen for the event.
Not to say that the likes of him have repeatedly proven to be capable of the most dumbfounding conservative and ignorant comments regarding video games, so my hopes are not high, and at best, you can expect the most random and useless speech ever.