E3 Preview: The Elder Scrolls Online
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Same here, i also like how your faction can be in control and set it's own Emperor, it sounds a lot more interesting than i had predicted it to be.imnotparanoid said:
Have any other MMO's done anything like this? where you can set your own "leader" of a particular area that everyone is fighting for? Not sarcasm, i'm genuinely not sure, if not, then at least they are trying something different xD
Yes actually, it was called archlord and the guildleader of whatever guild conquered the most castles or whatever that month, would be the archlord for a month. A titel that came with all sorts of crazy bonuses, both cosmetic and direct power-ups.arc1991 said:
But going by the reviews it was a terrible, terrible game. Barely better than those shitty scammy free-to-play mmo's you see in banner ads. It's only noteworthy achievement is being featured in the Belgian movie BenX, an honor it did not deserve at all.
Numerous other Korean mmo's feature somewhat similar systems where a guild can conquer an area and that gives them some control over it. Like setting taxes.
I'm completely, and entirely uninterested in ESO. I've been playing the Elder Scrolls since Morrowind (missed the Daggerfall et al ship) and enjoyed them immensely. I have over 100 mods in Skyrim and I've been playing "my own story" for a few weeks now. Quite fun.
That being said, ESO is.. just... "another MMO". If you're going to ride on the back of an incredible franchise, at least innovate or do something interesting with it. Don't just make another cash-in themepark simply because the template is there, and you want to make even more money than you do from Bethesda's Elder Scrolls. Which is absurd, Zenimax.. stop it.
Have they even factored in the idea that if this tanks (which it will), that it could seriously diminish faith in the highly profitable, critically acclaimed Elder Scrolls series? Like, at all? That ol' franchise that has neatly cemented itself as being "unsinkable", still innovative, wildly profitable, critically successful. With a community that wants to "Create Content" for you, via mods, for years.
Well, there is always Fallout 4 . . . . .
That being said, ESO is.. just... "another MMO". If you're going to ride on the back of an incredible franchise, at least innovate or do something interesting with it. Don't just make another cash-in themepark simply because the template is there, and you want to make even more money than you do from Bethesda's Elder Scrolls. Which is absurd, Zenimax.. stop it.
Have they even factored in the idea that if this tanks (which it will), that it could seriously diminish faith in the highly profitable, critically acclaimed Elder Scrolls series? Like, at all? That ol' franchise that has neatly cemented itself as being "unsinkable", still innovative, wildly profitable, critically successful. With a community that wants to "Create Content" for you, via mods, for years.
Well, there is always Fallout 4 . . . . .
It won't be an issue, this is basically them using the property as a giant piece of toilet paper.Zaik said:
Lore wise, the Orcs are a "monster race" not really viewed as a people until much later and shouldn't be playable just as they weren't for the beginnings of the series. Indeed "your" actions in making contact with and peace with the Orcs is one of the things that comes up in an earlier Elder Scrolls game.
The Redguard in their current form, black, carribean themed sailors and master warriors, do not exist at this time period. The Redguard are the Dwarves pure and simple. Arena and Daggerfall make this 100% clear, including the lore books and such about them. Being dwarves is also why the province/country they are from is called "Hammerfell" which sounds dwarven for a reason.
The situation with the dwarves disappearing was covered in Morrowwind which is what changed the races, but long time series fans have long mused that by definition reality must have been altered, creating this new race at the time of their disapperance.
If this is before even Tiber Septim, this means that Hammerfell should be a thriving dwarven nation, with the Dweamor being called "Redguards". If the race we think of as Redguards in the later games exists, it would be a fringe prescence and not anywhere near as prosperous or powerful until the reality alteration happens... probably not playable, and limited to sword fodder enemy tribals or whatever (similar to The Forsaken).
So, pretty much this whole thing is a joke. To be honest they shouldn't be messing around with prequels unless they want to stay loyal to their own property. The first thing that anyone developing this should do is go back and read EVERY book in the game, including those in Arena and Daggerfall... or especially those because they are closer to the time period they are dealing with.
Simply dumping Elder Scrolls-seeming trappings onto an MMO and stamping the name on it is unlikely to garner much interest from me. If the selling point is to play in that world (which I have gamed in for a loooong time) I want to actually play in that world, not something someone farted out to maximize sales. If they want to use all of the current trappings that most people are familiar with, then they should be making the same a sequel
of sorts NOT a prequel.
Having experienced both "Battlespire" and "Redguard", I can sort of say that when Bethesda decides to develop seperate products, expecting them to sell because they drop some of the terms and slap "Elder Scrolls" on the front, it rarely works out.
Whew, almost forgot for a moment there, everyone is a cynic on the internet. I hope that this game is awesome and incredibly successful, just to give a big middle finger to everyone already claiming it will be a failure.
Zmazur said:
The Aldmeri Dominion is the High Elves. The description in the article meaning that the High Elves unite the Khajiit and the Wood Elves under the Dominion.Texas Joker 52 said:
It's just a matter of wording. But the point about the Imperials is right, that nothing is said about them. One wonders if they will be given a NPC role. Or, since adding the Imperials to one of the three factions would leave an imbalance, because ten races don't split three ways, it could be that Imperials could also fall under an race that could join whatever faction they want.
As far as I've been able to tell from what I've played of Lord of the Rings Online, it runs like what you want MMOs to be.9thRequiem said:
Yes, people can play as a minion of Sauron, but that is only when they reach a certain level in regular play. This ability is called Monster Play([link]http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Monster_Play[/link]), and the evil character that the player creates can only be used in a small section of the game world, The Ettenmoors. It takes up only around 1/15th or less of the game world.
It isn't integral to the game and the player can go about playing in all the other sections oblivious to the stuff that goes on there.
When first announced it sounded like a disastrous idea, but it is starting to sound better with every new info. I'm not gonna get hyped for it though cos TOR has pretty much killed the entire concept of hype for MMOs.
Sounds like its at least 2-3 years off release though so by then either there will be too much competition for it to do well or everyone will be bored of other MMOs and jump ship by default.
The 3 factions thing does sound like shooting themselves in the foot a bit. Yes, its something no other MMO (TIKO) has done but the balancing and designing PVP will probably be very difficult and doesn't really add anything to the game over just 2 factions.
Sounds like its at least 2-3 years off release though so by then either there will be too much competition for it to do well or everyone will be bored of other MMOs and jump ship by default.
The 3 factions thing does sound like shooting themselves in the foot a bit. Yes, its something no other MMO (TIKO) has done but the balancing and designing PVP will probably be very difficult and doesn't really add anything to the game over just 2 factions.
Yes, but you were complaining about it not being true to the way you played over the course of two whole games.remmus said:
Two points:Caramel Frappe said:
1) It's being made by Zenimax Studios which is under the same parent company as Bethesda, so it's not like its a completely random 3rd party. Also apparently a lot of the devs in the team of about 200 people are big elder scrolls fans and want to remain as faithful as possible to the lore and they reportedly maintain regular contact with Bethesda Game Studios to ensure that what they're doing is consistent with the lore/ permissible by them to make sure they dont ruin anything too badly.
2) this game has been in development since 2007 and is slated for release in 2013. That means they've already been making this game for 5 years. Hardly a rush job imo.
May I add another couple points here.Crazy Zaul said:
It's slated for release in 2013, so next year.
And apparently the 3 faction system lends itself to strategizing across factions. Apparently, if one faction is seen as too powerful or is a threat, it is possible for the other two factions to band together to fight the third faction. In my opinion, this might make it easier to balance the game, since the players themselves can fight down any overly dominant faction. It is less likely that one single faction will be able to completely dominate two other factions unless one faction has a serious shortage of players.
It also possibly opens some possibilities for some pretty complicated "double agent" type scenarios where one faction pretends to be joining with another only to stab them in the back in some fashion. The possibility of these dynamics make the 3 faction system seem a lot more interesting to me than just two. It is still too early to say a whole lot though.
OT: I am getting more interested in this game the more I hear about it. When I first heard about it I was super excited, but then heavily disappointed with the initial dump of info on the project that seemed like it was straying away from being a true ES game. However I am now looking forward to seeing more about this game. Not a sure buy for me yet by any means, but I'm definitely intrigued by the ideas shown thus far.