EA-stories of how they screwed you over

[Stravant]

They didn't really screw me over but they did spoil the release of the game I've looked forward to the most (Battlefield 3) by not giving DICE enough development time to really polish the game to perfection.

 

[chaosyoshimage]

The only thing that slightly irked me with them is two problems that I had with my free copy of Mass Effect 2 that I got for buying Dragon Age II. When I had to insert my serial number it wouldn't take it for some reason, so I had to contact costumer service, but all I had to do was give them a photo of the number and I got my game. Although, it takes a long time to download a game like that on my connection and when I was almost through I had to update EA Digital Manager (Origin before it was Origin). When I did I lost all the data I had previous downloaded so I had to download it again.

Very minor problems, so I'm good with EA. Although apparently rushing Dragon Age II was definitely not cool...

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Me? I have never ever had a single problem with EA, or anything EA has done. Personally, i dont see why people hate EA.

They think it makes them look cool on the internet.

One of the main things that EA gets flak for is buying a company and then closing them when that company loses both profit and the ability to make games that aren't mediocre.

What makes me laugh is that THQ, Activision, Take-Two, and just about every other major publisher has done the same thing.

People just don't like seeing a business act like a business, and some people suffer from what I personally call 'Che Guevera syndrome'. If it's a corporation they express their disdain on the internet while they keep buying corporation product.

It's kind of like the guy wearing the Che Guevera shirt who talks about how great he was.

We all know one.

But we don't have the heart to tell him that when he bought the shirt, he spat on every idea that Che had.

Really cool bro. Have you ever used origin? That would explain your un-hate for EA.

I actually have.

It works fine.

Worked fine for my friend who bought TOR off it as well.

Are you trying to tell me that because you don't like Origin that's reason enough for me to hate EA? That's a pretty lackluster point.

Are you and your friend using the same origin as the rest of the internet?
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/naxfo/add_me_to_the_list_of_the_victims_of_origin/

Again.

Yes.

How is that link supposed to convince me of Origin's shortcomings when it's just a whole bunch of unfortunate people repeatedly[/c] replying to one thread?

Especially, as I already explained, when Origin is working just fine for myself, AND my friend.
Hell, I'm going to be using Origin to purchase TOR.

People need to get off this, 'it's cool to hate EA' spat. They're just like any other video game corporation. People get mad at EA for anything but let Bethesda release bug filled games without flack. It's kind of sad really.

Looking around at this thread, and the rest of the internet, you and your friend seem to be the only ones genuinely satisfied with origin. EA is a publisher. I don't blame them for the quality of their games, but if I did, it would involve lots of caps lock and profanities about the butchering of liara's character in ME2, the rat quicktime event in battlefield 3 (flashlights blinding you in daytime, WTF?), and the entirety of DA2. I hate them because they are a shitty company, completely out of touch from their community and only interested in profits.

I would look again. There are more posts telling the people spraying hate to bugger off than there are "horror" stories.

If there is any company that isn't "only interested in profits", then they exist in magical fairy land. ALL COMPANIES CARE ABOUT PROFITS NUMBER ONE. Whether this is Bioware, Valve, EA, Activision, IBM, Microsoft, Sony, or Burger F***ing King, all companies care profits number one.

OT: Only problem I've had with EA is that the NBA Live series has gone way downhill. I liked that series about 7 years ago.

Okay, first of all, I suppose nonprofits only exist in magical fairy land. Most companies intend to make a profit, and that is their goal, but some companies put the satisfaction of their community over their profits.

Corporations are legally obligated to make as much profit as possible because they legally have a duty to maximize shareholder value:http://www.litigationandtrial.com/2010/09/articles/series/special-comment/ebay-v-newmark-al-franken-was-right-corporations-are-legally-required-to-maximize-profits/

Essentially, if it's a corporation, money has to come first.

Then valve is doing it wrong.

Nice try.

They have Steam. Which has 35 million active users and over 1400 games.

Like I said, money comes first in any corporation.

Valve just has better PR.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Me? I have never ever had a single problem with EA, or anything EA has done. Personally, i dont see why people hate EA.

They think it makes them look cool on the internet.

One of the main things that EA gets flak for is buying a company and then closing them when that company loses both profit and the ability to make games that aren't mediocre.

What makes me laugh is that THQ, Activision, Take-Two, and just about every other major publisher has done the same thing.

People just don't like seeing a business act like a business, and some people suffer from what I personally call 'Che Guevera syndrome'. If it's a corporation they express their disdain on the internet while they keep buying corporation product.

It's kind of like the guy wearing the Che Guevera shirt who talks about how great he was.

We all know one.

But we don't have the heart to tell him that when he bought the shirt, he spat on every idea that Che had.

Really cool bro. Have you ever used origin? That would explain your un-hate for EA.

I actually have.

It works fine.

Worked fine for my friend who bought TOR off it as well.

Are you trying to tell me that because you don't like Origin that's reason enough for me to hate EA? That's a pretty lackluster point.

Are you and your friend using the same origin as the rest of the internet?
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/naxfo/add_me_to_the_list_of_the_victims_of_origin/

Again.

Yes.

How is that link supposed to convince me of Origin's shortcomings when it's just a whole bunch of unfortunate people repeatedly[/c] replying to one thread?

Especially, as I already explained, when Origin is working just fine for myself, AND my friend.
Hell, I'm going to be using Origin to purchase TOR.

People need to get off this, 'it's cool to hate EA' spat. They're just like any other video game corporation. People get mad at EA for anything but let Bethesda release bug filled games without flack. It's kind of sad really.

Looking around at this thread, and the rest of the internet, you and your friend seem to be the only ones genuinely satisfied with origin. EA is a publisher. I don't blame them for the quality of their games, but if I did, it would involve lots of caps lock and profanities about the butchering of liara's character in ME2, the rat quicktime event in battlefield 3 (flashlights blinding you in daytime, WTF?), and the entirety of DA2. I hate them because they are a shitty company, completely out of touch from their community and only interested in profits.

Which goes back to my point, the point which you decided to respond to in the first place.

EA isn't the only company that is only interested in profits. Every company is only interested in profits. EA just doesn't do the PR nice guy stuff that other companies do.

With all of the near broken Bethesda published/developed games that have come out, people still love them.

With the fact that Obsidian has never released a game that hasn't had major bugs (Alpha Protocol, New Vegas), everyone seems to be fine with that company.

Nintendo's constant rehashing of games that people who can't stop living in the past keep buying. Also for not getting with the times when it comes to online console gaming.

Microsoft being the only console manufacturer that charges for online.

Activision essentially milking Guitar Hero to literal death, milking COD, and producing next to nothing original.

Here in Canada, The Witcher Enhanced Edition didn't come with the required CD Key (affected me personally). I didn't go and make a forum post about how much CD Projeckt sucks. I went to customer care and got a new CD key.

Ubisoft's asinine DRM and milking of Assassin's Creed.

With all of what other companies do listed above, people still give EA flak over any other company over the most miniscule complaints.
For example:
"Origin scans my PC"
Windows Updates do that as well. And to be honest what are you worried about? They use to info on your PC and sell it to advertiser, just like Facebook, MySpace, and any other social media site.

Valve got freaking hacked and told everyone that their credit info was in danger.

Not a peep of negativity.

If Origin got hacked it would have been EA's fault in the eyes of everyone, and instead of being rational and just changing their passwords, people would be setting up a class action lawsuit.

And sadly what the OP is really complaining about is the compensation. Compensation EA didn't have to give out. OP is mad because they dared to give him coupons for Origin because he had to re-install a video game and make new characters for an MMO. Whoop dee freaking do, what a tragedy.

It's kind of a pathetic thing to complain about on the internet in a forum overall. At least I'm glad that, judging from the other posts here, I'm not the only person who thought that hating EA stopped being cool 5 years ago.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic, but new vegas is easily the buggiest game running on the gamebryo engine, but I still like obsidian, because new vegas is a pretty good game.
Valve immediately came out and told everyone when it happened, what had happened. Unlike what some other companies *cough*sony*cough* did. When a company is honest about something, people don't hate them as much as a company who hides information at the risk of their customers. If origin ever gets hacked, we will see what EA does.
You act like people regard windows updates fondly at all. Well at least I don't.
I haven't bought an ubisoft game ever since AC2.
I hate activision, but they haven't released a good game since World at War. Companies with no potential are easy to ignore.

Edit: Similar thing happened to me. I bought mercenaries 2 for the 360, it crashed when it tried to connect to the EA servers, and I went to EA support. They literally told me nothing, made me make a new live account, reset my birth date, and a bunch of other stuff, when it was obvious their shitty software was causing the problem. Eventually the lady just said "there seems to be a bug going around" and left, even after I had linked to her forum posts with the exact same problem going back to 2009. I eventually fixed it by downloading the trial of army of two, and letting that install the EA server DRM shit correctly. I asked the EA support lady if that would work earlier, and she said no. If EA had even researched the problem and helped me solve it rather then giving me random things to try for an hour, then I wouldn't blame them. At least I wouldn't blame EA support, I would still blame EA for dropping support for a game as soon as it feels it can no longer make money off of it.

Edit number two: I stopped using my XBox for that specific reason. Denying customers use of the console they paid for is extreme douchebaggery.

Again, you're not talking about my main point.

EA isn't the only company that screws its customers.

I'm talking about how I can, and have named a decent amount of companies that have screwed customers just as hard as EA.

For crying out loud iD released Rage in an atrocious state for the PC. I don't see pathetic forum posts saying that iD sucks or that John Carmack should be shot.

You stated your reason for why you hate EA. You got srewed. Doesn't mean everyone should get their brooms, declare 'Shenanigans' march to the EA forums and cry.
You got screwed.

Once.

It's not reason enough to hate an entire company brand. That's just being fickle. And honestly you let Merc 2 stop you from playing your Xbox? That has a lot more to do with you than EA. Other companies make games for that console.

Besides it was Mercs 2, you didn't really miss anything revolutionary.

You can choose to ignore the flaws of the companies that I mention, but you can't deny that I'm right when it comes to those major flaws.

Choosing to just hate on EA is asinine when other companies are doing just as bad or worse. The main complaint with EA nowadays seems to be with customer service. A valid point, but to hate EA based on that and let other companies sell you the same game 3 times or release buggy, incomplete games, and not give them any flak is an extremely hypocritical and nonsenical stance. You at least got Merc 2 working, some people last year couldn't beat New Vegas due to major bugs, couldn't stomach Duke Nukem Forever this year, and got sold Assassin's Creed II for the third time 2 months ago.

You got lucky and so did the OP in the long run. Quit crying.

Like I said, hating on EA for the sake of hating on EA stopped being cool 5 years ago. People grew up and realized that every company is in it for the money at the end.

Even Valve, I'm sorry to say. There's a reason they don't share their Steam sales figures. They hold 70% of the digital gaming market, and want to keep it that way.

 

[brainslurper]

megasnip

I'm sorry, I just got about 30 full length games at around two dollars each, I don't give a flying fuck what valve is making off of this. I stopped playing on my XBox because I didn't like paying for live, PC gaming is cheaper, better graphics and control scheme, etc. If I say anything on the EA forums, my origin account will be locked along with all of my games. I got rage with the ID complete pack I got, so I will have to decide that for myself when I get home to my windows computer. That certainly wasn't the only time EA screwed me but it was the only instance I told you about. I am not ignoring the flaws of other companies. I hate EA the most because of how many great games they release. Whenever I complain about New Vegas's bugs a bunch of ninjas pop out of the ceiling and scream something along the lines of "HERP DERP, YOU CANT HATE ON OBSIDIAN THEY MADE THE ORIGINAL FALLOUT GO BACK TO BETHESDA HURR YOU DON'T KNOW HOW COOL FALLOUT WAS HERP THE DERP BETHESDA SUCKS HER DERP DE DERP HERP". Also, I thought mercenaries 2 was pretty good...

 

[Philol]

I used to play Battleforge, bought a thunder wagon, lost the money, didn't get the card, I complained, nothing came of it, thanks EA.

 

[veloper]

Me? I have never ever had a single problem with EA, or anything EA has done. Personally, i dont see why people hate EA.

They think it makes them look cool on the internet.

One of the main things that EA gets flak for is buying a company and then closing them when that company loses both profit and the ability to make games that aren't mediocre.

What makes me laugh is that THQ, Activision, Take-Two, and just about every other major publisher has done the same thing.

People just don't like seeing a business act like a business, and some people suffer from what I personally call 'Che Guevera syndrome'. If it's a corporation they express their disdain on the internet while they keep buying corporation product.

It's kind of like the guy wearing the Che Guevera shirt who talks about how great he was.

We all know one.

But we don't have the heart to tell him that when he bought the shirt, he spat on every idea that Che had.

Really cool bro. Have you ever used origin? That would explain your un-hate for EA.

I actually have.

It works fine.

Worked fine for my friend who bought TOR off it as well.

Are you trying to tell me that because you don't like Origin that's reason enough for me to hate EA? That's a pretty lackluster point.

Are you and your friend using the same origin as the rest of the internet?
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/naxfo/add_me_to_the_list_of_the_victims_of_origin/

Again.

Yes.

How is that link supposed to convince me of Origin's shortcomings when it's just a whole bunch of unfortunate people repeatedly[/c] replying to one thread?

Especially, as I already explained, when Origin is working just fine for myself, AND my friend.
Hell, I'm going to be using Origin to purchase TOR.

People need to get off this, 'it's cool to hate EA' spat. They're just like any other video game corporation. People get mad at EA for anything but let Bethesda release bug filled games without flack. It's kind of sad really.

Looking around at this thread, and the rest of the internet, you and your friend seem to be the only ones genuinely satisfied with origin. EA is a publisher. I don't blame them for the quality of their games, but if I did, it would involve lots of caps lock and profanities about the butchering of liara's character in ME2, the rat quicktime event in battlefield 3 (flashlights blinding you in daytime, WTF?), and the entirety of DA2. I hate them because they are a shitty company, completely out of touch from their community and only interested in profits.

I would look again. There are more posts telling the people spraying hate to bugger off than there are "horror" stories.

If there is any company that isn't "only interested in profits", then they exist in magical fairy land. ALL COMPANIES CARE ABOUT PROFITS NUMBER ONE. Whether this is Bioware, Valve, EA, Activision, IBM, Microsoft, Sony, or Burger F***ing King, all companies care profits number one.

OT: Only problem I've had with EA is that the NBA Live series has gone way downhill. I liked that series about 7 years ago.

Okay, first of all, I suppose nonprofits only exist in magical fairy land. Most companies intend to make a profit, and that is their goal, but some companies put the satisfaction of their community over their profits.

Corporations are legally obligated to make as much profit as possible because they legally have a duty to maximize shareholder value:http://www.litigationandtrial.com/2010/09/articles/series/special-comment/ebay-v-newmark-al-franken-was-right-corporations-are-legally-required-to-maximize-profits/

Essentially, if it's a corporation, money has to come first.

Then valve is doing it wrong.

Nice try.

They have Steam. Which has 35 million active users and over 1400 games.

Like I said, money comes first in any corporation.

Valve just has better PR.

Valve have better everything. They are not a publicly traded company though, so they can think long term and building a reputation is a long term investment that has paid off for them.

EA need to please shareholders, but screwing over customers, may eventually lose them more than just sales of duped people.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

megasnip

I'm sorry, I just got about 30 full length games at around two dollars each, I don't give a flying fuck what valve is making off of this. I stopped playing on my XBox because I didn't like paying for live, PC gaming is cheaper, better graphics and control scheme, etc. If I say anything on the EA forums, my origin account will be locked along with all of my games. I got rage with the ID complete pack I got, so I will have to decide that for myself when I get home to my windows computer. That certainly wasn't the only time EA screwed me but it was the only instance I told you about. I am not ignoring the flaws of other companies. I hate EA the most because of how many great games they release. Whenever I complain about New Vegas's bugs a bunch of ninjas pop out of the ceiling and scream something along the lines of "HERP DERP, YOU CANT HATE ON OBSIDIAN THEY MADE THE ORIGINAL FALLOUT GO BACK TO BETHESDA HURR YOU DON'T KNOW HOW COOL FALLOUT WAS HERP THE DERP BETHESDA SUCKS HER DERP DE DERP HERP". Also, I thought mercenaries 2 was pretty good...

Obsidian didn't make the original Fallout, that was Black Isle Studios. Most of Obsidians employees came from Black Isle, and even back then, Black Isle Studios' game were pretty buggy.

But basically you're saying that when you criticize companies other than EA you get jumped on? Come on that's weak. That's weaker than you letting Mercs 2 ruin your fun on the Xbox.

I've been criticizing the actions of Nintendo on this site for a while, but I don't let the idiotic defenses of Nintendo's fans shut me up.

I am not ignoring the flaws of other companies. I hate EA the most because of how many great games they release.

That's a flawed way of thinking, especially when the companies I mentioned in the earlier posts of this debate all have received critical acclaim at some point. My argument here doesn't deal with that though. It doesn't deal with how many great games EA or Nintendo has made.
My point specifically talks about my amazement of why people like the OP can put up petty complaint posts on The Escapist about EA, but other companies make mistakes that are just as unforgiving, walk away from criticism smelling like roses.

EA seems to have this stigma of hate on it, and it's as illogical as the love of Steve Jobs and Apple products.

That's my point. I'm talking about wondering why EA among the gaming population get crap for what other companies do all the time. (Although it seems that less and less of the gaming community has that attitude.)

At least their games are complete upon release.

 

[Nimcha]

Didn't they say you could play SW:TOR without Origin though?

Only time I've been "screwed" by EA was buying BF2 and finding out it wasn't anything like BF 1942. I miss that game and Secret Weapons of WW2, it was fun playing campaigns as both sides.

You need an Origin account, not Origin itself if you buy the physical version. Not the actual client.

Digital requires Origin in full though.

It does not. I've bought the digital edition and have never had to install Origin to play it.

 

[SarcasmoPope]

EA make/publish a lot of stuff I like and I've never had problems.
I like Battlefield 3. I get to shoot people in the face.
I like Madden. I buy one every 2 years so that the small changes and graphical differences can be noticed.
I like FIFA, though I only have one.
I like Command and Conquer 1 through 3, though I didn't buy 4. Not because it was bad, I just went off RTS.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Me? I have never ever had a single problem with EA, or anything EA has done. Personally, i dont see why people hate EA.

They think it makes them look cool on the internet.

One of the main things that EA gets flak for is buying a company and then closing them when that company loses both profit and the ability to make games that aren't mediocre.

What makes me laugh is that THQ, Activision, Take-Two, and just about every other major publisher has done the same thing.

People just don't like seeing a business act like a business, and some people suffer from what I personally call 'Che Guevera syndrome'. If it's a corporation they express their disdain on the internet while they keep buying corporation product.

It's kind of like the guy wearing the Che Guevera shirt who talks about how great he was.

We all know one.

But we don't have the heart to tell him that when he bought the shirt, he spat on every idea that Che had.

Really cool bro. Have you ever used origin? That would explain your un-hate for EA.

I actually have.

It works fine.

Worked fine for my friend who bought TOR off it as well.

Are you trying to tell me that because you don't like Origin that's reason enough for me to hate EA? That's a pretty lackluster point.

Are you and your friend using the same origin as the rest of the internet?
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/naxfo/add_me_to_the_list_of_the_victims_of_origin/

Again.

Yes.

How is that link supposed to convince me of Origin's shortcomings when it's just a whole bunch of unfortunate people repeatedly[/c] replying to one thread?

Especially, as I already explained, when Origin is working just fine for myself, AND my friend.
Hell, I'm going to be using Origin to purchase TOR.

People need to get off this, 'it's cool to hate EA' spat. They're just like any other video game corporation. People get mad at EA for anything but let Bethesda release bug filled games without flack. It's kind of sad really.

Looking around at this thread, and the rest of the internet, you and your friend seem to be the only ones genuinely satisfied with origin. EA is a publisher. I don't blame them for the quality of their games, but if I did, it would involve lots of caps lock and profanities about the butchering of liara's character in ME2, the rat quicktime event in battlefield 3 (flashlights blinding you in daytime, WTF?), and the entirety of DA2. I hate them because they are a shitty company, completely out of touch from their community and only interested in profits.

I would look again. There are more posts telling the people spraying hate to bugger off than there are "horror" stories.

If there is any company that isn't "only interested in profits", then they exist in magical fairy land. ALL COMPANIES CARE ABOUT PROFITS NUMBER ONE. Whether this is Bioware, Valve, EA, Activision, IBM, Microsoft, Sony, or Burger F***ing King, all companies care profits number one.

OT: Only problem I've had with EA is that the NBA Live series has gone way downhill. I liked that series about 7 years ago.

Okay, first of all, I suppose nonprofits only exist in magical fairy land. Most companies intend to make a profit, and that is their goal, but some companies put the satisfaction of their community over their profits.

Corporations are legally obligated to make as much profit as possible because they legally have a duty to maximize shareholder value:http://www.litigationandtrial.com/2010/09/articles/series/special-comment/ebay-v-newmark-al-franken-was-right-corporations-are-legally-required-to-maximize-profits/

Essentially, if it's a corporation, money has to come first.

Then valve is doing it wrong.

Nice try.

They have Steam. Which has 35 million active users and over 1400 games.

Like I said, money comes first in any corporation.

Valve just has better PR.

Valve have better everything. They are not a publicly traded company though, so they can think long term and building a reputation is a long term investment that has paid off for them.

EA need to please shareholders, but screwing over customers, may eventually lose them more than just sales of duped people.

Valve is still a corporation, it still has investors that it has to show value to.

 

[brainslurper]

megasnip

I'm sorry, I just got about 30 full length games at around two dollars each, I don't give a flying fuck what valve is making off of this. I stopped playing on my XBox because I didn't like paying for live, PC gaming is cheaper, better graphics and control scheme, etc. If I say anything on the EA forums, my origin account will be locked along with all of my games. I got rage with the ID complete pack I got, so I will have to decide that for myself when I get home to my windows computer. That certainly wasn't the only time EA screwed me but it was the only instance I told you about. I am not ignoring the flaws of other companies. I hate EA the most because of how many great games they release. Whenever I complain about New Vegas's bugs a bunch of ninjas pop out of the ceiling and scream something along the lines of "HERP DERP, YOU CANT HATE ON OBSIDIAN THEY MADE THE ORIGINAL FALLOUT GO BACK TO BETHESDA HURR YOU DON'T KNOW HOW COOL FALLOUT WAS HERP THE DERP BETHESDA SUCKS HER DERP DE DERP HERP". Also, I thought mercenaries 2 was pretty good...

Obsidian didn't make the original Fallout, that was Black Isle Studios. Most of Obsidians employees came from Black Isle, and even back then, Black Isle Studios' game were pretty buggy.

But basically you're saying that when you criticize companies other than EA you get jumped on? Come on that's weak. That's weaker than you letting Mercs 2 ruin your fun on the Xbox.

I've been criticizing the actions of Nintendo on this site for a while, but I don't let the idiotic defenses of Nintendo's fans shut me up.

I am not ignoring the flaws of other companies. I hate EA the most because of how many great games they release.

That's a flawed way of thinking, especially when the companies I mentioned in the earlier posts of this debate all have received critical acclaim at some point. My argument here doesn't deal with that though. It doesn't deal with how many great games EA or Nintendo has made.
My point specifically talks about my amazement of why people like the OP can put up petty complaint posts on The Escapist about EA, but other companies make mistakes that are just as unforgiving, walk away from criticism smelling like roses.

EA seems to have this stigma of hate on it, and it's as illogical as the love of Steve Jobs and Apple products.

That's my point. I'm talking about wondering why EA among the gaming population get crap for what other companies do all the time. (Although it seems that less and less of the gaming community has that attitude.)

At least their games are complete upon release.

That's a flawed way of thinking, especially when the companies I mentioned in the earlier posts of this debate all have received critical acclaim at some point.

You mentioned Duke Nukem Forever.
No rational arguments matter to the interplay fanboys.
EA interacts with a much large amount of people, therefor their problems are more widely complained about. In my instance, if EA hadn't stopped supporting mercenaries 2 so quickly then I wouldn't have had to even talk to their customer support. I don't even think valve has customer support (or at least live customer support) but I have never needed it, so I have nothing to complain about. I think it is also a case of hating on things for being popular, just as people hate on COD for being the same every year, despite nintendo doing more or less the exact same thing with much longer production cycles.
As much as I don't want to see this turn into an apple flame war, steve jobs was the first person to invest in a commercially successful graphical display computer. He decided that computers would have multiple fonts. He was the first person with a commercially successful all-touch smartphone. He practically created digital distribution with iTunes. He had over 300 patents to his name, most of which he was the lead developer. He has influenced the tech industry more then anyone else I can think of, except for maybe the UNIX guy. Blaming people for liking him is as illogical as blaming people for disliking EA.

 

[brainslurper]

Me? I have never ever had a single problem with EA, or anything EA has done. Personally, i dont see why people hate EA.

They think it makes them look cool on the internet.

One of the main things that EA gets flak for is buying a company and then closing them when that company loses both profit and the ability to make games that aren't mediocre.

What makes me laugh is that THQ, Activision, Take-Two, and just about every other major publisher has done the same thing.

People just don't like seeing a business act like a business, and some people suffer from what I personally call 'Che Guevera syndrome'. If it's a corporation they express their disdain on the internet while they keep buying corporation product.

It's kind of like the guy wearing the Che Guevera shirt who talks about how great he was.

We all know one.

But we don't have the heart to tell him that when he bought the shirt, he spat on every idea that Che had.

Really cool bro. Have you ever used origin? That would explain your un-hate for EA.

I actually have.

It works fine.

Worked fine for my friend who bought TOR off it as well.

Are you trying to tell me that because you don't like Origin that's reason enough for me to hate EA? That's a pretty lackluster point.

Are you and your friend using the same origin as the rest of the internet?
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/naxfo/add_me_to_the_list_of_the_victims_of_origin/

Again.

Yes.

How is that link supposed to convince me of Origin's shortcomings when it's just a whole bunch of unfortunate people repeatedly[/c] replying to one thread?

Especially, as I already explained, when Origin is working just fine for myself, AND my friend.
Hell, I'm going to be using Origin to purchase TOR.

People need to get off this, 'it's cool to hate EA' spat. They're just like any other video game corporation. People get mad at EA for anything but let Bethesda release bug filled games without flack. It's kind of sad really.

Looking around at this thread, and the rest of the internet, you and your friend seem to be the only ones genuinely satisfied with origin. EA is a publisher. I don't blame them for the quality of their games, but if I did, it would involve lots of caps lock and profanities about the butchering of liara's character in ME2, the rat quicktime event in battlefield 3 (flashlights blinding you in daytime, WTF?), and the entirety of DA2. I hate them because they are a shitty company, completely out of touch from their community and only interested in profits.

I would look again. There are more posts telling the people spraying hate to bugger off than there are "horror" stories.

If there is any company that isn't "only interested in profits", then they exist in magical fairy land. ALL COMPANIES CARE ABOUT PROFITS NUMBER ONE. Whether this is Bioware, Valve, EA, Activision, IBM, Microsoft, Sony, or Burger F***ing King, all companies care profits number one.

OT: Only problem I've had with EA is that the NBA Live series has gone way downhill. I liked that series about 7 years ago.

Okay, first of all, I suppose nonprofits only exist in magical fairy land. Most companies intend to make a profit, and that is their goal, but some companies put the satisfaction of their community over their profits.

Corporations are legally obligated to make as much profit as possible because they legally have a duty to maximize shareholder value:http://www.litigationandtrial.com/2010/09/articles/series/special-comment/ebay-v-newmark-al-franken-was-right-corporations-are-legally-required-to-maximize-profits/

Essentially, if it's a corporation, money has to come first.

Then valve is doing it wrong.

Nice try.

They have Steam. Which has 35 million active users and over 1400 games.

Like I said, money comes first in any corporation.

Valve just has better PR.

Just because they make a lot of money doesn't mean that they are only interested in money.

 

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Curious to where you do work, technical support, programming, marketing?
Are you contracted through a secondary company, which is normal for most of these businesses?
Where are you located?

I'm on the market for a new job at the moment and have a decent resume in the technical support field. I have worked for Logitech, contracted through a third party, on one of their harder campaigns before it was outsourced to people who have no fucking clue what they where doing. That move, I would bet was done by the third party company looking to make more money off the Logitech campaign, without caring how bad customer service will suffer.

However I like Logitech customer service policies so much that I will still shrill for them.

Not kidding there: I have worked for several campaigns and had to deal a lot with other companies technical support structure and I have yet to find one better then Logitech. This is a company that has policies allowing us to 'upgrade' customers at a whim and ship them free stuff with only the bare minimal of technical support to find out what went wrong. Hell, if we do require you to ship the product back to us, which isn't common, Logitech will even pay for the cost of shipping!

But then, maybe that was just me knowing how to bend every rule to make customers happy in ways that won't get me in shit that has tainted my view of their policies and there was wind of some policy changes coming that we wouldn't be happy about... maybe I got out when it was still good.

I worked for Medialink, as an marketing intern. While I didn't really work for EA are department works exclusivity with EA and subsidiaries. Basically our department focuses on marketing EA games in croatia and other former Yugoslavia countries ( Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro ect.)As for location, we were a bit out of the way. The Offices were located in Zagreb, Croatia. An example of a project in which I worked on is dragon age 2 and Gatling gears. If you've ever played Gatling gears in eastern Europe, and agreed to the terms and agreements, you agreed to terms and agreements I wrote out. If you took part in a customer feedback form for DA2 and both DLC packages, yep me again.

Well that's my claim to fame.

I have recently started work as a Trade marketing and brand assistant for EA in the Czech Republic ( slowly moving back to my native England) Have only recently started here, so not much to say. I'm working on local trade marketing strategies and am co-ordinating the pre-order process for an upcoming game (also did this with DA2, forgot to mention)

Have never worked with logitech, or know somebody who has, sounds cool though.

As for resumes I cant take or even suggest them to those who can, sorry. However I litatrly found my current job (EA Czech) by applying through their website.

https://jobs.ea.com/roles/?id=a1Q50000000001EEAQ