EA Subscription for Xbone
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I can imagine that this is where Microsoft spent most of their $1 billion dollars on getting games.
MS: "Hey, Steam is pretty big for our suckers who bought Windows. Does anyone want to do a similar thing for our console?"
EA: "People love our Origin service with its reliable servers and excellent customer service, why don't we partner up? Say 450 Million dollars for 'exclusive' access to our games, and as long as your XBox One fans pay $5/month like Steam does."
MS: "Sounds good to me."
Sony is still in the basement, muttering about trying to get its streaming service to work so the fans that bought the PS4 can play older games...
MS: "Hey, Steam is pretty big for our suckers who bought Windows. Does anyone want to do a similar thing for our console?"
EA: "People love our Origin service with its reliable servers and excellent customer service, why don't we partner up? Say 450 Million dollars for 'exclusive' access to our games, and as long as your XBox One fans pay $5/month like Steam does."
MS: "Sounds good to me."
Sony is still in the basement, muttering about trying to get its streaming service to work so the fans that bought the PS4 can play older games...
Yowsers, it seems anything associated with the XBone only seems to stink and is genrally unpopular. Albeit not without reason.
But I have to disagree with subscription based gaming when you have already paid (over the odds) for an already full game. All this is making me glad that I never purchased an Xbone. With gaming becoming a full on price-gouge festival, only looking to get worse - I can see why people can foresee or even wish for a gaming crash.
But I have to disagree with subscription based gaming when you have already paid (over the odds) for an already full game. All this is making me glad that I never purchased an Xbone. With gaming becoming a full on price-gouge festival, only looking to get worse - I can see why people can foresee or even wish for a gaming crash.
I'd imagine the "contract" is for a few months/a year minimum, or there is some kind of penalty to avoid this.LaoJim said:
Right off the bat, I see a problem with this. EA's backlog consists primarily of massproduced sportsgames and battlefield. It seems to me that it hasn't occurred to EA yet that practically nobody likes them anymore. Sure they're in the business to make money, but the moneymaking is all for its own sake. It seems that for EA it's never been about making decent products, it's always been money first, let's deal with the shitstorm when it appears.
A while back I didn't look at EA as bad, just boring. Pushing out one sports-franchise game after another, seeing no point in buying all these games that look like dross to play, made for people with completely different interests than me. Now the internet is starting to get to me though, I feel I dislike EA more and more, the more bullshit they try to pull. This whole subscription thing obviously is optional, because it would be committing business suicide to force all new players of a game to subscribe.
But subscribe for what? The privilege of playing "a bunch" of their games? I don't remember EA having that many games worth playing. Unlimited access to Peggle 2, well that about sells it doesn't it! It is obviously not me they're marketing towards, otherwise I would be excited. I suppose it's great for those hoping that some BioWare-games will be thrown in the mix, but the only franchise I truly liked that came out of EA was axed years ago, because apparently "nobody wants games about crashing cars". At least make the FUCKING Big Surf Island-DLC available for PC, you shits. (Actually that can be opened up with other methods. I don't know if they're legal or not, I think the Big Surf Island is supposed to be included in The Ultimate Box, but I'm not sure).
A while back I didn't look at EA as bad, just boring. Pushing out one sports-franchise game after another, seeing no point in buying all these games that look like dross to play, made for people with completely different interests than me. Now the internet is starting to get to me though, I feel I dislike EA more and more, the more bullshit they try to pull. This whole subscription thing obviously is optional, because it would be committing business suicide to force all new players of a game to subscribe.
But subscribe for what? The privilege of playing "a bunch" of their games? I don't remember EA having that many games worth playing. Unlimited access to Peggle 2, well that about sells it doesn't it! It is obviously not me they're marketing towards, otherwise I would be excited. I suppose it's great for those hoping that some BioWare-games will be thrown in the mix, but the only franchise I truly liked that came out of EA was axed years ago, because apparently "nobody wants games about crashing cars". At least make the FUCKING Big Surf Island-DLC available for PC, you shits. (Actually that can be opened up with other methods. I don't know if they're legal or not, I think the Big Surf Island is supposed to be included in The Ultimate Box, but I'm not sure).
I think there are quite firm rules about exactly how difficult you can make it for one of your customers to unsubscribe. Sure you have to remember to do it in time and the button to do it might be tucked away somewhere difficult to find, but it should basically be the same process as Netflix (That said, EA is the game that made it impossible to give Dungeon Keeper any score but 5 stars so we'll see).Maximum Bert said:
I wasn't aware of the Season Ticket, yeah they do seem similar, the difference seems to be that the season ticket is just for Sports games whereas this seems to be FPS (i.e. Battlefield) + Sports games. Possibly EA will include lots of their other releases in it as well, probably they won't. I don't really know how EA sports games work these days (last one I had was FIFA 09) but there seems to be a large pay-to-win and get it before your friends focus on it.lnin0 said:
I had a look at the terms and conditions and no, you can cancel it anytime you want. I think that's par for the course, people are more wary of getting locked into things. The onus is EA to provide a service that has enough content that people don't want to cancel. Given that the year contract is half the price of 12 monthly payments, I guess the idea is people will tend to go for the year.KarmaTheAlligator said:
At the moment this hardly strikes me as being the best deal in the world, it doesn't seem like a total rip-off either. For fans who buy a certain number of EA games a year it represents value, for others it doesn't. If EA support the service with decent free games (not just nearly outdated sports titles) it might be worth doing, maybe not. I'd probably wait at least 6 months to see how its going. As you say there does seem to be this huge assumption (not unfounded) that everything EA does must be evil.major_chaos said:
Did anyone even read the article? Its not gating EA titles behind a subcription service, its more or less like a netflix deal or such. Sure right now the library is rubbish...or is it? I mean for $30 bucks you can play all those games, how much do they cost individually? Guess thats subject to your region.
Plus, discounts on the content you purchase for yourself, while the subscription is active.
I mean it doesnt interest me in its current form as those titles dont, but if they expand on that library well without increasing the price, and this will be an excellent service.
Whoops sorry, we're on the Escapist. Urrr! Arrg! EA BAD! Grunk hate EA!
Better?
Plus, discounts on the content you purchase for yourself, while the subscription is active.
I mean it doesnt interest me in its current form as those titles dont, but if they expand on that library well without increasing the price, and this will be an excellent service.
Whoops sorry, we're on the Escapist. Urrr! Arrg! EA BAD! Grunk hate EA!
Better?
Uhm, $30 a year and you get to play whatever they release for XB1? Not a bad deal really, and its not mandatory read the whole article, instead of knee-jerk reacting to it. If you don't play EA games, it doesn't affect you. If you do but can't afford to buy new ones when they come out, hey this actually saves you money. What a concept!
No you don't get to "keep" the games, but then PSN has the PS+ service which lets you download free games and play them as long as you keep your subscription current, and PS+ is more expensive yearly.
I don't see what the problem is here folks.
No you don't get to "keep" the games, but then PSN has the PS+ service which lets you download free games and play them as long as you keep your subscription current, and PS+ is more expensive yearly.
I don't see what the problem is here folks.
So....EA has an optional service that will let people play from a number of games at their leisure for a discounted price at the cost of not owning them. And it's completely optional, cheaper than the cost of a single game, and completely optional.
Somehow, this is horrible, awful, EA shooting themselves in the foot, etc. Can someone explain how? Because this looks like digging for any excuse to complain about EA.
Somehow, this is horrible, awful, EA shooting themselves in the foot, etc. Can someone explain how? Because this looks like digging for any excuse to complain about EA.
As much as I want the hobby I enjoy to suffer greatly and risk complete collapse, it's not likely to happen.Nurb said:
So you get whatever EA decides to stick inside their so called vault, considering the price i doubt that there will be anything good in it, probably last years sports titles and maybe some old titles that are already dirt cheap. But if you plan on buying a bunch of games made by EA and their dlc's that 10% discount might be worth it.
Ok how about look at it first before getting the pitch forks out because, hell if you buy EA stuff digital, You'll like this.
"Additionally, EA Access will also net subscribers 10 percent discounts on all EA digital content, which includes full games and DLC, as well as access to trials of new EA games nearly a week before they come out (with saves that copy over to the final game, should you choose to purchase it later). Games that will be eligible for early access and save copy-over are Madden NFL 15, NHL 15, FIFA 15, NBA Live 15, and Dragon Age: Inquisition."
So say you buy 1 copy of an EA game for 60 bucks, if you have the 5 dollar sub, you save a dollar. Now say you do it at a time like madden day 8/26 and you want NHL, and Fifa, Well that 5 bucks saves you 18 dollars, Plus you get that dumb play the full game first that they did last year, and someone probably likes Dragon age and they'll throw the DLC at you to.
So if you like digital games, This actually helps you and saves you money, If you don't, Ignore it.
"Additionally, EA Access will also net subscribers 10 percent discounts on all EA digital content, which includes full games and DLC, as well as access to trials of new EA games nearly a week before they come out (with saves that copy over to the final game, should you choose to purchase it later). Games that will be eligible for early access and save copy-over are Madden NFL 15, NHL 15, FIFA 15, NBA Live 15, and Dragon Age: Inquisition."
So say you buy 1 copy of an EA game for 60 bucks, if you have the 5 dollar sub, you save a dollar. Now say you do it at a time like madden day 8/26 and you want NHL, and Fifa, Well that 5 bucks saves you 18 dollars, Plus you get that dumb play the full game first that they did last year, and someone probably likes Dragon age and they'll throw the DLC at you to.
So if you like digital games, This actually helps you and saves you money, If you don't, Ignore it.
If only internet hatred could be turned into a renewable resource. EA could solve any energy crisis alone. Which of course, the internet would find a way to blame them for.
Anyway, at the moment, consider me cautiously optimistic. I'd have to know more about it before putting my money towards it, but as someone who plays a good amount of EA games - and not always immediately when they release - this definitely piques my interest.
Anyway, at the moment, consider me cautiously optimistic. I'd have to know more about it before putting my money towards it, but as someone who plays a good amount of EA games - and not always immediately when they release - this definitely piques my interest.
What? It's an option. They're offering a sort of plus membership as an option for people to buy. So it's something they're going to have to make worth the individual's time. Right now the four games is laughable. Maybe if they opened up their entire library or something then it would be a steal.InsanityRequiem said:
Maybe "force" means something different where I come from. Don't get me wrong, EA has bastardized enough of my favorite franchises to make me hate them but I'm not going to go all out lying about them. They do enough shitty stuff to make that entirely unnecessary.
Heck, even if this were the only option to buy games "force" is still the wrong word unless they're reaching into your wallet and taking the money themselves.
I always thought it was the Always Online bullet that MS fired into its own foot regarding the Xbone, not subscriptions.Verlander said:
You're not wrong, that was definitely one of my biggest issues. I reckon it was a mixture of everything though, but generally speaking the reaction seemed to me to be people unhappy with the console's reliance on online. I remember shortly after the PS3 was released, Sony mentioned that the PS4 would probably have no physical drive, and there was outcry against it (internet isn't good enough). Same thing happened when OnLive was launched in the UK, and the whole thing died (through various reasons). People don't like streaming games or subscriptions, but everyone else does, so I reckon it's going to seep in one way or another.Ed130 The Vanguard said: