Space Magic child ? My bet is on mr. Benjamin "100" Franklin. There's something in those deep eyes of his that says "c'mon, you have to do it to own me, and me, and me, and me..." :]Ralen-Sharr said:
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Earths Collapse "Imminent"
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Apocalypse scenarios means business after all...
well, with the latest doomsday approaching, they have to start preparing the next one. that's just standard procedure. nothing special to see here. happens all the time.
Kodlak said:
OT: Massive overpopulation and excessive overuse of resources are totally things.
Feh, leave those things to our grandkids.
Ok another ice age big deal we survived the last one as well... I mean come on. Yes, it will take out half the world's population. But humanity is like a hedge: good to have around, but it needs a trim every now then unless you want it to grow out of control.
But anyway, this article is pretty vague. I've heard better theories about the world coming to an end. And I still don't get why they use the word ''collapse''. That would imply the earth will implode and fall down on it's own centre, taking what lies above with it. My ''end of the world bet'' is still firmly placed on World War 3.
But anyway, this article is pretty vague. I've heard better theories about the world coming to an end. And I still don't get why they use the word ''collapse''. That would imply the earth will implode and fall down on it's own centre, taking what lies above with it. My ''end of the world bet'' is still firmly placed on World War 3.
It's a good point. And i didn't mean to imply tat merely getting the hell of terra is gooing to resolve humanitys woes. But i'm unsure as to whether or not humanity as a whole will survive long enough to learn from it's problems. But on the other hand, we have to, one way or the other. But i'm still of the old school approach that space exploration'll humble humanity, but i'm pretty damn sure group A of people will fight group B. Maybe humanity'll enconuter another race, but i think it's naive to believe that all the answers are in space. A giant green skinned mentor isn't a resolution to everybodys problems.JesterRaiin said:Yeah. Pretty much every second one of those special numbers "happens". 666 atoms of something flies through something else. 42 stars change into super-novas. Follower of some New Age cult reads some ritual for 23rd time this month. 13 stars align in one line.keiji_Maeda said:
Everything can be represented by numbers, but it doesn't mean those numbers represent something special. I never understood people believing something else.
I agree, but i think it's natural for people to feel intimidated by the future. And imagining that we are "it" the end of the evolutionary line all accomplishemnts done and all time over. When i do feel worried about the fact that the end of the world is being named by so many scientist, i draw to mind that there have always been qualified "Heralds" of some sort telling us about the end of the world. But /further down/
Let me resurrect Mr. Carlin for a few minutes... ;]keiji_Maeda said:
Hahahahaha that's pretty funny, i'd never seen that before. Thanks
Humour as an argumentative tool is great, not only does it make people relax, but it also makes people more open to new ideas. And i feel there is some sense to the idea, it is pretty arrrogant to say that it's our obligation to save species and plants, but as far as i know (haven't done the research here 'ough) i don't think anything beyond enviromental disorders/disease (even counting the ones that get propagated by humans) have taken such a large swath of animals and resources as humans. I hope i'm proven wrong here though.
I'm strongly against it. It doesn't change a thing where we'll go. We'll stay the way we are now and were since the beginning - petty, greedy thieves, proud of our little, shiny trinkets, afraid of anything that challenges the vision of the way world works we created for ourselves. Until we'll grow up enough to cease destroying everything we don't understand, we shouldn't move out of our sandbox yet.keiji_Maeda said:
Why ? Because until we share the same globe, there's still a hope for some sort of understanding, unity. Even some fanatics will think twice about unleashing nuclear horror if there's a possibility that it will bite them back in their asses. When we'll spread to planets and moons, there will be no chance for peace.
...At least that's what i think. :]
It's not the first time I've heard or read something like this, but that was a few years ago and said kind of the same thing. I think it's true that we're abusing the planet. I think humans could survive an ice age, but they take a long time to happen.
Thanks. It's hard to express one's opinion in the foreign, partially unknown language with nothing except Google Translator to help.keiji_Maeda said:
Unfortunately, nothing short of divine intervention will be capable to finally resolve all our problems if we'll have to add astronomical distances to the Human equation. Actually... This reminds me of two stories, Farmer's "Jesus on Mars" and Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land". If you'll have some spare time, i encourage you to read those novels. At worst, they present interesting visions, at best - well, you be the judge. :]keiji_Maeda said:
As for now, i hope for unexpected technological breakthrough of sorts. Something that will make all this stupid race to destruction obsolete. Maybe some kind of invention that'll connect all Mankind's minds into one, single consciousness or something like this. Seriously, i don't see any other way for us. With each new generation we have to learn everything from the beginning and we still make the same mistakes.
...but now we have the nukes.
O RLY?Rawne1980 said:
I think not
OT: Seriously until the sky starts falling, i'm not going to fret over these theories.
Captcha: Dead ringer
FUCK SPIES. YOU FUCKING BASTARDS, there is a reason why pyro is my most played class...
These people are casually advocating genocide. Really now. And I'm sorry, but the use of the phrase "used scientific theories, toy ecosystem modeling and paleontological evidence as a crystal ball", as a juxtaposition of a hoax and adaptable data that can be used to skew results in one's favor removes what credibility this article had, even if they weren't throwing around phrases that sound bad but go explained. Pandering nonsense rooted in the psychology of imminent doom, nothing more. Though, the advocacy of genocide should be watched--that just reeks of someone wanting another ethnic cleansing.
The amount of ignorance in this thread is kinda astounding. People are happy to live in denial of climate change and the effects of human activity on the planet. Especially homo sapiens' consumption of natural resources without replenishing them somehow, all the while introducing toxins into the ecosystem. I guess the whole climate change/pollution sceptic movement really has had an effect. People aren't concerned at all. There is going to be a point where the earth will be too poisoned to reverse the damage.
Population reduction may be part of the answer. I won't hear sensationalist accusations of "genocide".
Population reduction may be part of the answer. I won't hear sensationalist accusations of "genocide".
new ice-age?
we survived the last one, didn't we?
besides, it's not like we're gonna wake up one morning going from twenty degrees to minus fifty, shit doesn't work that way, or any climate change for that matter.
we survived the last one, didn't we?
besides, it's not like we're gonna wake up one morning going from twenty degrees to minus fifty, shit doesn't work that way, or any climate change for that matter.
This is clearly just confirmation bias.
Every generation has had a totally real indisputable reason that they really are the last this time.
Every generation has had a totally real indisputable reason that they really are the last this time.
Have you seen how big an explosion a nuclear bomb makes?Bassik said:
Do you know how many of those things we have?
If we wanted to we could tear this planet in half, I think it's foolish to doubt, and not fear, the power of human ingenuity.
ETA: Some perspective-
That's the equivalent to 1 ton of TNT. The 8000 nuclear warheads we have in the US alone have the yield of up to 10,000,000 tons of TNT. 8000 We could rip this planet a new one easily.
ETA: Even more perspective.
Most of our weapons are almost 40,000 times more powerful than this.
Science doesn't have to condone themKodlak said:
This article is bananas and it's scientific merit is close to none. However, while a mysterious biological collapse is just a few bog words, running out of resources to fuel our monstrous economy is very real and disturbingly close. And then we'll see how quickly we'll start fighting over the last spoils of mother earth.
Irreversible? How do you know it can't be reversed?
100 years ago we didn't have the power to vaporize every inch of the planet's surface and we couldn't get out of Earth's atmosphere.
Who are these backward thinking scientists that they believe 50-100 years isn't enough time to shift into reverse and undo whatever damage we choose?
100 years ago we didn't have the power to vaporize every inch of the planet's surface and we couldn't get out of Earth's atmosphere.
Who are these backward thinking scientists that they believe 50-100 years isn't enough time to shift into reverse and undo whatever damage we choose?
Reminds me of something Ian Malcolm said in The Lost World (the novel, not the movie.) It basically boils down to "humans are too cosmically insignificant to completely destroy the earth, or even to destroy all life on earth, and we're too full of ourselves for believing we're that powerful. Worst case scenario, we kill all the plants and animals, including ourselves, and then the world rebuilds from a few bacteria that escaped the destruction." There's some truth to that. We'll kill ourselves, but the old rock herself will keep right on spinning.piinyouri said: