Ebert Regrets Attack on Gaming
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I like Ebert, really. I respect his opinion on movies. I was really annoyed about how everyone jumped down his throat about his comments on video games. Leave him alone, he's entitled to his opinion, though I do disagree. He has nothing to apologize for.
He did say "Basically I have no clue about games and I don't have the inclination to change that. But I see that this is no basis for talking about games."
I can accept that.
I can accept that.
At least he sort of apologized. I personally just think he's old and doesn't want to admit that something new could be good.
I can't say I care the slightest bit about it (then why am I posting?). It seems to me that he's made a career out of saying exactly what he thinks even if it offends people. Why should we ask him to take it back? Maybe we know something he doesn't. Maybe we've experienced something that he hasn't.
He's old enough now that he doesn't have time to keep everybody happy outside of doing his job, which is critiquing movies, not games (keeping in mind, lots of movie buffs have gotten mad at him for disincluding their favourites too). He admits he hardly knows anything about video games, and I have no problem accepting that and moving on. Whether his opinion on them changes or not in the future is beans to me.
Can we talk about something else now?
He's old enough now that he doesn't have time to keep everybody happy outside of doing his job, which is critiquing movies, not games (keeping in mind, lots of movie buffs have gotten mad at him for disincluding their favourites too). He admits he hardly knows anything about video games, and I have no problem accepting that and moving on. Whether his opinion on them changes or not in the future is beans to me.
Can we talk about something else now?
He gets kudos from me. It actually takes quite the amount of balls to admit your wrong-doings, especially in public, and ESPECIALLY if you are a very well-known prevalent film critic.
I still believe that games are art, and I still like Ebert as a film critic, but gaming and Ebert are two things that should not be in the same room, because they simply don't click. Glad to see that he realizes this.
But on a side note, why were games like Flower and Braid mentioned as examples for Mr. Ebert? Braid simply just had little write-ups in between levels, and I've never played Flower, but I'm pretty sure that that game doesn't have much of a plot to begin with. Better examples for gaming as an art form would probably be Shadow of the Colossus, Heavy Rain, or hell even Kingdom Hearts since they're Disney related, and they've made great films in the past.
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I still believe that games are art, and I still like Ebert as a film critic, but gaming and Ebert are two things that should not be in the same room, because they simply don't click. Glad to see that he realizes this.
But on a side note, why were games like Flower and Braid mentioned as examples for Mr. Ebert? Braid simply just had little write-ups in between levels, and I've never played Flower, but I'm pretty sure that that game doesn't have much of a plot to begin with. Better examples for gaming as an art form would probably be Shadow of the Colossus, Heavy Rain, or hell even Kingdom Hearts since they're Disney related, and they've made great films in the past.
/opinion
Damn man, that's an apology. He still sticks to his stance, but he's able to see some future where he could maybe retract it.
Don't worry Ebert, you're still a famous film critic, and you've probably gotten a lot less people who hate you now.
Don't worry Ebert, you're still a famous film critic, and you've probably gotten a lot less people who hate you now.
I'm glad Ebert decided to -adjust- his statement. I do not dislike the guy, but I want to emphasize that he only modified his statement; he didn't retract it.
His claims about 'not being able to learn about human nature' or 'inspiring one to etc..' are supported by 'argument from ignorance' (in other words, "I dunno", but I -still- believe 'yadda yadda').
Still, I agree with this:
I never disliked Ebert for simply expressing his opinion in the first place, but i am glad that he has admitted that he simply does not know enough about the medium to be so vocal about a position that he would never be able to defend adequately against people who do.
I wasn't up set about his statement in the first place but to say he still feels he's correct but to regret saying it publicly is hand of a back handed move. He even said he was in no place to say what he did, that alone should make him previous statement moot. I, however, think this is the best we'll get out of Ebert. As Yahtzee had said before, (at least I believe he did) Ebert knows as much about games as Yahtzee does movies.
I do not believe Mr Ekit was using the word "care" in that sentence. You should have noticed, Mr. Thin, that there is eight times the letter "e" is used in Mr. Ekit's posts.Mr Thin said:
I do not know what he was talking about in that sentence but I do know that he did not intend to to use the word "care."
To everybody else:
Can the gamer population please learn to read and comprehend prior to getting emotional on topics. Pretty please?