eBooks and the future

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R.Nevermore

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I sort of started this off in another thread, but the purpose of that thread was something else entirely. As I kept writing it became more complex and I decided not the hijack his thread and make my own.

eReaders and eBooks are becoming more prevalent, bit by bit, but surprisingly slowly. The convenience of being able to carry around your book collection in the palm of your hand is something that was unprecedented until quite recently, but could this new power be more harmful than good? The effects would be widespread, and effect many many people. Obviously this sort of thing would be a slow transition, but as it goes, it takes out the middlemen, as numerous as they are and removes them from the equation.

First off, who would a transition from paper to kilobytes effect?
-Publishers. No doubt that production costs for eBooks would be significantly cheaper than publishing millions of hard copies, but, as with anything on computers, a move to the digital world leaves your product vastly more susceptible to piracy. Would the gain and loss even out? Tough to say.
However, would a time come when we no longer even need the publishers, what's to stop anyone from George R R Martin to Joe Shmoe from writing the book themselves, converting it to the appropriate format and distributing it online? Publishers would need to adapt their business model in the way media companies have been kicking and screaming about, or fall into ruin, as authors realize that they don't need to go through the stiff middle man any longer.
-Libraries. Slowly, but surely, as eReaders become more affordable and as people accept the transition, libraries would disappear as video stores have done. The Internet will be the worldwide library, with every book available there.
-Newspapers. We've already seen this medium begin its death throws. The Internet has become more mobile than ever and news can be accessed from anywhere. With eReaders becoming commonplace, beaming the news to someone would be a no-brainer.
-Lumber Industries. Oh yes, as hard copies begin to sell less, paper becomes less used, and many people would lose their jobs in the paper manufacturing process.
-Students buying textbooks for college and university, it's difficult to determine if the costs of the eTextbooks would be lower or not, but the textbooks could be updated much easier across the board. Without having stacks and stacks of outdated textbooks, one program on an ereader that updates regularly.
-Schools. Textbook costs go down for high schools and below, profits from textbooks go down for schools that charge for them. This could require some serious overhauls in pretty integrated systems. It could also pave the way for far more advanced self-schooling or homeschooling programs.

Other effects: With a slow death of libraries and publishers as we know them, we'd see an emergence of online libraries... Youtubes for texts. Places where people can share their works, for free or for money. Hopefully not as juvenile as YouTube but you get what I mean. A major drop in price for eReaders would be a no-brainer. In a world of eBooks, everybody would be expected to carry one, either as part of our phones or separate.

Now my own personal conspiracy theories. Why haven't eBooks caught on to a great extent? To me it's a huge surprise that these things haven't boomed in the same way cell phones have. Carrying every book you have everywhere you go is amazing, and eReaders and eBooks aren't overly expensive either. So why? Perhaps the publishing companies are holding them back, for fear of the things mentioned above? Perhaps it's that reading simply isn't as popular as it once was, as it is replaced my Internet, video and games.

Discussion questions:
What other effects do you think a rise in eReading would have?
Why do you believe eReading has risen so slowly? Do you even agree that it has been slow?
Do you not want eBooks to rise to the same use as hard copies? Why not?
Do you own or use an eReader or eReading program yourself?
What other applications could eReaders provide?

I apologize for my terribly written thread.
 

Melon Hunter

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Well, with regards to publishers dying out as authors went independent, there's already a place where any schmuck with a keyboard, an Internet connection and a story in their head can put it to the public: fanfiction.

Now, of course, not all fanfiction is terrible, nor is all of it unedited. But as Sturgeon's Law goes, a good deal of it is pretty unreadable. You know how fandoms generally dislike original characters, because a lot of people have difficulty balancing them and making them believable as opposed to overpowered self-inserts? Yeah. Now imagine those same people trying to concoct a whole cast of characters, plus a universe, all plausible and well thought-out and such.

See, there would be freelance editors, and likely entities similar to the partnership channels such as Machinima and TGS on YouTube that could help fund budding authors and promote good reading material in this brave new open-source world, but it would also lead to a deluge of sub-par to awful fictions being produced, drowning out the good. People would throw down their electronic devices in disgust, unable to find a good story amongst the dross.

If you want a picture of the eBook-only future, imagine a Kindle loaded with My Immortal being smashed into a human face... forever.
 

kickassfrog

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Amazon allows people to self publish their own books.
By and large, there's a reason they never went through proper publishers. Because their books are terrible and the dialogue is totally unbelievable.
Though I suppose if you go rummaging through the sewers, you can't expect to find much jewellery.
 

aba1

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Keep in mind that most of the world doesn't even own a computer let alone a ebook so I think that future is a lot more distant than made out to be. Either way it concerns me that with every new tech we get more and more jobs go obsolete especially since we don't have enough jobs to support the people we have as it stands and things are only going to get worse.
 

Raikas

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R.Nevermore said:
What other effects do you think a rise in eReading would have?
Why do you believe eReading has risen so slowly? Do you even agree that it has been slow?
Do you not want eBooks to rise to the same use as hard copies? Why not?
Do you own or use an eReader or eReading program yourself?
What other applications could eReaders provide?
I don't own a dedicated eReader, but I do use the software on my iPad (and frankly I wouldn't have bought one of those either - it was part of our Christmas bonus at work). The main the issue that I have with eReaders is that they have limited functionality for the amount of space that they take up, so why not just use your phone or tablet? I think that's part of the reason that it's a slow moving market.

It might also be worth considering how people read books - people who buy a book and pass it around to their friends can't do that with most eBooks. People who read on transit and have forgotten a paperback on a plane/train/bus are going to be wary of doing the same thing with a more expensive item. Same thing with reading a book on the beach or in the pool when you're on holiday - if you get a paperback wet it's no great loss.

By and large, there's a reason they never went through proper publishers. Because their books are terrible and the dialogue is totally unbelievable.
And this. There's already a lot of crap out there - fewer editors just means there'll be more of it.
 

Redlin5_v1legacy

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I will never stop buying paper books. I just hope we don't see an overall decline in quality of material published due to the disappearance of editors.
 

Genocidicles

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I don't want no high-falooting ebooks. I want a dagnabbing proper book I can hold with my own two hands and smell! Not some blasted bright screen straining my eyes.
 

Vault101

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I think the publishing model weather its digital or physical exists because we want an indicator of "quality" (in theory obviously)

no one wants to dig through a space like fan fiction.net just to find somthing to read
 

Aris Khandr

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Redlin5 said:
I will never stop buying paper books. I just hope we don't see an overall decline in quality of material published due to the disappearance of editors.
To contrast, I will never buy another paper book again. I actually intend to set aside a portion of my income to slowly replace and get rid of all of my physical media. No more books, magazines, DVDs, CDs, or games. With cloud storage being the way it is, why would I want to pack up box after box of books when I can just buy them from Amazon and download them at my leisure? They'll never get worn, never tear, never scratch or get dirty. And I can carry a dozen books at once on my iPad. Death to physical media!

That said, publishers will be around for a while. We're looking at at least 20 years before physical books are so rare as to be surprising. And once that is the case, they'll simply transform into publicists. The financial investment in getting a book to print will be gone, but all the other aspects of making a best seller are still there. You still have to get a professional editor (though I've noticed a great many books go to print with obvious mistakes anyway) and you still need people to promote the book. Their jobs will change, and they may employ fewer people (they may also employ more, as taking on a new author is suddenly much cheaper and thus less risky), but they will not be gone.
 

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Aris Khandr said:
I actually intend to set aside a portion of my income to slowly replace and get rid of all of my physical media. No more books, magazines, DVDs, CDs, or games.
We are on polar opposite ends of the spectrum. As cool as having all digital games is, I prefer to have my hard copies of everything. Sure that requires space for putting things but that's what shelves are for. ;)
 

Aris Khandr

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Redlin5 said:
Aris Khandr said:
I actually intend to set aside a portion of my income to slowly replace and get rid of all of my physical media. No more books, magazines, DVDs, CDs, or games.
We are on polar opposite ends of the spectrum. As cool as having all digital games is, I prefer to have my hard copies of everything. Sure that requires space for putting things but that's what shelves are for. ;)
Out of curiosity, when was the last time you moved? And do you plan to move again? Because for me, the answers are "August" and "yes", respectively. And let me tell you, after you move eleven and a half boxes full of books, you'll hate the things too. If you don't plan on moving again, physical media is fine. But moving it is a giant pain in the butt, and completely not worth it.
 

Redlin5_v1legacy

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Aris Khandr said:
Redlin5 said:
Aris Khandr said:
I actually intend to set aside a portion of my income to slowly replace and get rid of all of my physical media. No more books, magazines, DVDs, CDs, or games.
We are on polar opposite ends of the spectrum. As cool as having all digital games is, I prefer to have my hard copies of everything. Sure that requires space for putting things but that's what shelves are for. ;)
Out of curiosity, when was the last time you moved? And do you plan to move again? Because for me, the answers are "August" and "yes", respectively. And let me tell you, after you move eleven and a half boxes full of books, you'll hate the things too. If you don't plan on moving again, physical media is fine. But moving it is a giant pain in the butt, and completely not worth it.
I moved a year ago. So yes, I know the hassle. I still consider it worth it and that's why I pick what I want to take with great care.
 

aelreth

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The academic book industry is an amazing rip off. So long as students have no issue taking college loans to purchase these books that should be hand me downs, we will continue to allow this cancer to continue.

I would also like to say that audio books are the future. I used to be in the ebook camp but once you start using audible it's hard to go back.
 

Fluffythepoo

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eBooks are the future, they have the potential to be more than books ever were.


I bought an iPad3 for textbooks this year, by the end of next year the savings on books will have paid for the ipad. Besides doing almost everything that i do on my computer excluding gaming i also have: recordings of all my classes' lectures (that i record with the ipad), several news paper apps, several Rosetta stone-esque language learning apps for multiple languages, several 3d model apps of things like a complete human anatomy and the solar system, and finally i have movies/netflix. The one thing i didnt think when i got the ipad is how much i would use it for things besides just reading and how much it would enhance my learning.
 

Queen Michael

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I'm the most interested in how much eBooks will cost when there no longer are any paper books to compare them to (if we ever reach that point, that is).

For instance, on Sherrilyn Kenyon's webpage, she charges exactly the same amount of money for the eBook version of her books as for the paperback version, but since I doubt that the cost of printing a book is as high as the cost of not printing it, it's pretty obvious that it's just greed. And that raises the question of how much you charge for something like that. I mean, if we're going to be honest it doesn't make any sense that on Amazon.com the kindle version of The Hunger Games actually costs more than the paperback version. They could charge $2 and still make a profit, so charging any more than that is just an attempt to get more cash that actually makes people buy way less books than they might have otherwise. I mean, imagine how much more books people would buy if they cost no more than a bag of chips.
 

sXeth

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I actually like a model I've seen with a few music artists where you buy the CD/vinyl and get the mp3 download code or whatever. I haven't seen any books yet with this though.

Besides the obvious ability to read if the power/wifi/battery goes out, and not being at the mercy of Amazon or whoever deciding to suddenly yank the book.

And yeah, theres a certain aesthetic sense to having the physical books handy. Also an e-book tends to lose of its stlye as it has to be cramped onto the screen. That and I find the screens uncomfortable to look at for long periods of reading.
 

SomeLameStuff

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I believe that picture of my collection conveys my stance on eBooks. And that's not even all of it.

Going complete eBook is going to make reading absolutely shite. Just imagine every book in the picture above as 50 Shades of Grey and Twilight... yeah, no.
 

Korolev

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I have an eReader - a Sony eReader, which I like very much. But I still prefer to buy physical books, if I think they are worth it. Many of the books I buy are non-fiction books, with diagrams, charts, figures and pictures of buildings or places. It doesn't always display correctly on an eReader. And even though my eReader is easy on the eyes, I still prefer to read off of paper than off the screen. My eyes still find paper more comfortable.

Got nothing really against eReaders - I use them and I hope they'll stick around, but I still like physical books and I have hundreds of them on my shelf at home and I can't bring myself to throw them away.