Edge of Tomorrow is super videogame-y

[TheIronRuler]

I'm kind of curious if the ending of the movie is the same as the book?

It sucks it was a stand alone book but maybe with this there will be another one.

No idea, haven't read the book. I'll spoil the movie for you if you want though.

Yeah go ahead

Spoiler

The hero loses his alien time-reversal powers when he's knocked out cold and gets a blood transfusion, so he's left with a single shot at winning the war. Death will now be permanent. Luckily they just managed to pinpoint the location of the Omega creature that's masterminding the alien hive mind. He goes with Rita and their squad to the place, everybody gets a heroic death and the hero blows up the creature, himself dying as well.

The part that made me roll my eyes was the fact that the hero gets enveloped in the Omega creature's blood as he's dying. This sends him way more back in time than usual, pretty much the beginning of the movie, with the only difference being that the aliens have died (or at least that's what's reported) and the war has ended without even beginning. Everyone's alive, and the hero goes to meet Rita "for the first time".

I don't mind happy endings but this one seemed pulled out of the movie's ass. How could the aliens die in the past as a CONSEQUENCE of dying in the future?

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Spoiler

I think that a better ending would have him sent back to the beginning of the film a changed man, and have him go through the same sequence in the beginning, only he wouldn't be such a coward in the first place.
Then again, the deux ex machina wouldn't be pulled in the first place and the movie could end well with a good sacrifice and the salvation of mankind.
...and skip Cruise laughing.

 

[HardkorSB]

After seeing it earlier today, I have to say it was really good.
If I had to give a brief description, it's like Groundhog Day mixed with Gears of War (but with a better story).
Go see it, we need more movies like this.

Does this movie measure up? Is the war in the forefront? Your rather interesting and unique way of explaining the movie makes it sound like it does, but I would like to know for certain. I'm not talking about the whole moving being nothing but one big firefight, but if the majority of the movie is about Tom talking with that girl and trying to figure out what's going on and we only get small bits of action that last maybe twenty seconds each time, then I'll pass.

There's the 15 minute intro, then we get a lots of action and quite a bit of humor, then there's a quiet moment in the middle and then there's more action.
I've somewhat enjoyed Oblivion but it's a turd compared to this.
Best part, they don't use shaky cam (there's maybe 20 seconds of shaky cam in the entire movie), it's well shot and choreographed.

There's also an added bonus if you want to see Tom Cruise suffer, he's literally a punching bag in this movie. A lot of his death scenes are played for laughs too.

 

[crazygameguy4ever]

I can't remember the name but i'm pretty sure i've seen a film similar to this years ago.. and it had a actor that was far better then Tom "the untalented midget" Cruise.. wish i could remember what it was called

 

[Ushiromiya Battler]

I'm kind of curious if the ending of the movie is the same as the book?

It sucks it was a stand alone book but maybe with this there will be another one.

No idea, haven't read the book. I'll spoil the movie for you if you want though.

Yeah go ahead

Spoiler

The hero loses his alien time-reversal powers when he's knocked out cold and gets a blood transfusion, so he's left with a single shot at winning the war. Death will now be permanent. Luckily they just managed to pinpoint the location of the Omega creature that's masterminding the alien hive mind. He goes with Rita and their squad to the place, everybody gets a heroic death and the hero blows up the creature, himself dying as well.

The part that made me roll my eyes was the fact that the hero gets enveloped in the Omega creature's blood as he's dying. This sends him way more back in time than usual, pretty much the beginning of the movie, with the only difference being that the aliens have died (or at least that's what's reported) and the war has ended without even beginning. Everyone's alive, and the hero goes to meet Rita "for the first time".

I don't mind happy endings but this one seemed pulled out of the movie's ass. How could the aliens die in the past as a CONSEQUENCE of dying in the future?

Thanks, you saved me an hour of disappointed and I'm not really that big a fan of Cruise.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I'm kind of curious if the ending of the movie is the same as the book?

It sucks it was a stand alone book but maybe with this there will be another one.

No idea, haven't read the book. I'll spoil the movie for you if you want though.

Yeah go ahead

Spoiler

The hero loses his alien time-reversal powers when he's knocked out cold and gets a blood transfusion, so he's left with a single shot at winning the war. Death will now be permanent. Luckily they just managed to pinpoint the location of the Omega creature that's masterminding the alien hive mind. He goes with Rita and their squad to the place, everybody gets a heroic death and the hero blows up the creature, himself dying as well.

The part that made me roll my eyes was the fact that the hero gets enveloped in the Omega creature's blood as he's dying. This sends him way more back in time than usual, pretty much the beginning of the movie, with the only difference being that the aliens have died (or at least that's what's reported) and the war has ended without even beginning. Everyone's alive, and the hero goes to meet Rita "for the first time".

I don't mind happy endings but this one seemed pulled out of the movie's ass. How could the aliens die in the past as a CONSEQUENCE of dying in the future?

Thanks, you saved me an hour of disappointed and I'm not really that big a fan of Cruise.

Glad to help out but the point was the ending didn't ruin the movie for me, at all.

 

[lee1287]

Very good film. Saw it today, Didn't care for Emily Blunt in it, though Bill Paxton is bloody marvelous in it.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Very good film. Saw it today, Didn't care for Emily Blunt in it, though Bill Paxton is bloody marvelous in it.

Proof being 70% of his dialogue is repeating the same lines over and over, yet he steals every scene he's in every time.

 

[Creedsareevil]

I like the movie, because its doing what i am paying it for: it entertains me. A Task many movies failed this year... Godzilla... Xmen.... that one i cant een remember properly...

The movie took the premise from the book and spun its own threads. And it did a good job.

So far, this and noah are my shining beacons for 2014.

 

[fix-the-spade]

Spoiler

The hero loses his alien time-reversal powers when he's knocked out cold and gets a blood transfusion, so he's left with a single shot at winning the war. Death will now be permanent. Luckily they just managed to pinpoint the location of the Omega creature that's masterminding the alien hive mind. He goes with Rita and their squad to the place, everybody gets a heroic death and the hero blows up the creature, himself dying as well.

The part that made me roll my eyes was the fact that the hero gets enveloped in the Omega creature's blood as he's dying. This sends him way more back in time than usual, pretty much the beginning of the movie, with the only difference being that the aliens have died (or at least that's what's reported) and the war has ended without even beginning. Everyone's alive, and the hero goes to meet Rita "for the first time".

I don't mind happy endings but this one seemed pulled out of the movie's ass. How could the aliens die in the past as a CONSEQUENCE of dying in the future?

<spoiler=Well, I have to say even more spoilers>
Oh God that's not the book's ending, that not the book's ending at all.

I was afraid that they'd go for a cop out happy ending. The book (which I have read) ends on a much darker note, Rita succeeds in breaking out of the loop, by allowing Keiji to kill her. Keiji ultimately wins the battle, survives the day and escapes the loop, only to be viewed with suspicion and fear as a 'green' soldier who just tore apart an alien army seemingly on the fly (and he just murdered the most famous human soldier).

Keiji is left as humanity's greatest warrior, having killed more Mimics in one day than anyone in history, but he's alone, he isn't trusted, the war is still in progress and whether it's even winnable is still very much up in the air.

But yeah, happy ending is much better...

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I like the movie, because its doing what i am paying it for: it entertains me. A Task many movies failed this year... Godzilla... Xmen.... that one i cant een remember properly...

The movie took the premise from the book and spun its own threads. And it did a good job.

So far, this and noah are my shining beacons for 2014.

I liked Noah a lot too! Best movies together with Grand Budapest Hotel, I think.
Waiting for Jupiter Ascending now.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

I'm kind of curious if the ending of the movie is the same as the book?

It sucks it was a stand alone book but maybe with this there will be another one.

No idea, haven't read the book. I'll spoil the movie for you if you want though.

Yeah go ahead

Spoiler

The hero loses his alien time-reversal powers when he's knocked out cold and gets a blood transfusion, so he's left with a single shot at winning the war. Death will now be permanent. Luckily they just managed to pinpoint the location of the Omega creature that's masterminding the alien hive mind. He goes with Rita and their squad to the place, everybody gets a heroic death and the hero blows up the creature, himself dying as well.

The part that made me roll my eyes was the fact that the hero gets enveloped in the Omega creature's blood as he's dying. This sends him way more back in time than usual, pretty much the beginning of the movie, with the only difference being that the aliens have died (or at least that's what's reported) and the war has ended without even beginning. Everyone's alive, and the hero goes to meet Rita "for the first time".

I don't mind happy endings but this one seemed pulled out of the movie's ass. How could the aliens die in the past as a CONSEQUENCE of dying in the future?

Spoiler: Well, the solution is trivial

I hate it when writers change the rules of time travel at the drop of a hat. Almost any form of time travel doesn't make sense, but making sure said time travel is consistent makes it more believable, that the universe has laws that we don't quite understand. Set in stone if A. you can or can't change the timeline B. what are the limits on how far back/forward you can go and C. how it can be abused.

Also, since the aliens are time travelers as well, how did they ever lose? Shouldn't they of been learning just as much as Tom Cruise was?

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I'm kind of curious if the ending of the movie is the same as the book?

It sucks it was a stand alone book but maybe with this there will be another one.

No idea, haven't read the book. I'll spoil the movie for you if you want though.

Yeah go ahead

Spoiler

The hero loses his alien time-reversal powers when he's knocked out cold and gets a blood transfusion, so he's left with a single shot at winning the war. Death will now be permanent. Luckily they just managed to pinpoint the location of the Omega creature that's masterminding the alien hive mind. He goes with Rita and their squad to the place, everybody gets a heroic death and the hero blows up the creature, himself dying as well.

The part that made me roll my eyes was the fact that the hero gets enveloped in the Omega creature's blood as he's dying. This sends him way more back in time than usual, pretty much the beginning of the movie, with the only difference being that the aliens have died (or at least that's what's reported) and the war has ended without even beginning. Everyone's alive, and the hero goes to meet Rita "for the first time".

I don't mind happy endings but this one seemed pulled out of the movie's ass. How could the aliens die in the past as a CONSEQUENCE of dying in the future?

Spoiler: Well, the solution is trivial

I hate it when writers change the rules of time travel at the drop of a hat. Almost any form of time travel doesn't make sense, but making sure said time travel is consistent makes it more believable, that the universe has laws that we don't quite understand. Set in stone if A. you can or can't change the timeline B. what are the limits on how far back/forward you can go and C. how it can be abused.

Also, since the aliens are time travelers as well, how did they ever lose? Shouldn't they of been learning just as much as Tom Cruise was?

Spoiler

They're not exactly time-travelers, but some of them ("Alphas") have a defense mechanism that rewinds time back one day whenever they're killed (while retaining their consciousness/memory). Cruise's character is lucky to slay one of them and mix his blood with his the first time he dies, so from then on he inherits the same mechanism. Later it's explained that these Alphas are one in a million and are nigh impossible to kill, and nobody else kills one through the rest of the movie. Since they're not the ones that die, the only creature to retain full consciousness whenever time gets rewinded is... Tom Cruise.

While the aliens don't "learn" from all the rewinds, they do outsmart Cruise for a while by sending him false "hive mind visions" that detract him and Rita from the Omega's location.

 

[gagagaga]

Pretty sure the light novel this movie is based off of was explicitly video game inspired, so this is hardly surprising.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

I'm kind of curious if the ending of the movie is the same as the book?

It sucks it was a stand alone book but maybe with this there will be another one.

No idea, haven't read the book. I'll spoil the movie for you if you want though.

Yeah go ahead

Spoiler

The hero loses his alien time-reversal powers when he's knocked out cold and gets a blood transfusion, so he's left with a single shot at winning the war. Death will now be permanent. Luckily they just managed to pinpoint the location of the Omega creature that's masterminding the alien hive mind. He goes with Rita and their squad to the place, everybody gets a heroic death and the hero blows up the creature, himself dying as well.

The part that made me roll my eyes was the fact that the hero gets enveloped in the Omega creature's blood as he's dying. This sends him way more back in time than usual, pretty much the beginning of the movie, with the only difference being that the aliens have died (or at least that's what's reported) and the war has ended without even beginning. Everyone's alive, and the hero goes to meet Rita "for the first time".

I don't mind happy endings but this one seemed pulled out of the movie's ass. How could the aliens die in the past as a CONSEQUENCE of dying in the future?

Spoiler: Well, the solution is trivial

I hate it when writers change the rules of time travel at the drop of a hat. Almost any form of time travel doesn't make sense, but making sure said time travel is consistent makes it more believable, that the universe has laws that we don't quite understand. Set in stone if A. you can or can't change the timeline B. what are the limits on how far back/forward you can go and C. how it can be abused.

Also, since the aliens are time travelers as well, how did they ever lose? Shouldn't they of been learning just as much as Tom Cruise was?

Spoiler

They're not exactly time-travelers, but some of them ("Alphas") have a defense mechanism that rewinds time back one day whenever they're killed (while retaining their consciousness/memory). Cruise's character is lucky to slay one of them and mix his blood with his the first time he dies, so from then on he inherits the same mechanism. Later it's explained that these Alphas are one in a million and are nigh impossible to kill, and nobody else kills one through the rest of the movie. Since they're not the ones that die, the only creature to retain full consciousness whenever time gets rewinded is... Tom Cruise.

While the aliens don't "learn" from all the rewinds, they do outsmart Cruise for a while by sending him false "hive mind visions" that detract him and Rita from the Omega's location.

Spoiler: Wat.

The explanation only raises more questions than it answers. How did these creatures gain that ability Did they evolve it? Was it somehow genetically added to them? Also, how could it get mixed together to make Tom a Groundhogger? Genetics does not work like that, particularly since we are talking about an ALIEN species here. Try to get a blood transfusion from a fish, and see how many gills you grow before you die of blood poisoning.

I think the proper term for all of this is a "Voodoo Shark".

 

[CloudAtlas]

I went into Edge of Tomorrow without any particular expectation one way or another, and I'm not exactly a Tom Cruise fan either (because Scientology). However, I was pleasently surprised - it was more entertaining, amusing, and competently made than I expected. Almost subversive even, given that Tom Cruise's character, well, let's say he doesn't exactly start out like Tom Cruise characters typically do.

Also, Emily Blunt kicks ass.

 

[Queen Michael]

I enjoyed the book it's based on, All You Need is Kill so I've been looking forward to this. It looks like it's taking the concept in a couple of different directions rather than retreading what the book did, which is my favourite kind of adaptation. Glad to see the praise it's been getting; I should be going to see it next week.

I just went to see it after reading the book a couple of weeks ago, and I can confirm that this indeed is the kind of adaptation it is. And it's a good movie, I liked it. Good popcorn movie. Definitely worth checking out.

 

[Frezzato]

snip

Yeah, I liked it. It made up for Oblivion. That's not to say I dislike all Tom Cruise movies as I actually really enjoyed Jack Reacher, except for its ending, because...

Spoiler: of course...

Jack Reacher, like most Hollywood action movies, has to have a fist fight near the end.

And with Edge of Tomorrow I wasn't even critical of the super stupid military tactics and technology. A "futuristic" movie that used barely modified [http://www.tomcruise.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/edge-of-tomorrow-suits.jpg] Raytheon Exoskeletons [http://archive.sltrib.com/images/2010/0927/wkd_exoskeleton_092710~0.jpg] as props. What happened to attack aircraft? No flying monsters = bombing campaign.

All of that could be forgiven because it was a good movie. Thanks for the recommendation.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

snip

Yeah, I liked it. It made up for Oblivion. That's not to say I dislike all Tom Cruise movies as I actually really enjoyed Jack Reacher, except for its ending, because...

Spoiler: of course...

Jack Reacher, like most Hollywood action movies, has to have a fist fight near the end.

And with Edge of Tomorrow I wasn't even critical of the super stupid military tactics and technology. A "futuristic" movie that used barely modified [http://www.tomcruise.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/edge-of-tomorrow-suits.jpg] Raytheon Exoskeletons [http://archive.sltrib.com/images/2010/0927/wkd_exoskeleton_092710~0.jpg] as props. What happened to attack aircraft? No flying monsters = bombing campaign.

All of that could be forgiven because it was a good movie. Thanks for the recommendation.

Glad you liked it! It's nice to see it's getting such positive feedback.

 

[briankoontz]

Also, since the aliens are time travelers as well, how did they ever lose? Shouldn't they of been learning just as much as Tom Cruise was?[/spoiler]

It's even worse when you think about it. They aren't just time travelers, this time travel is built into their DNA - it's not a technological apparatus added on to them. So it's an evolutionary trait, making it as natural to them as the use of our hands is to us, as opposed to Tom Cruise who only has experience with "time travel" through the reload function of video games, and even then probably not much since he's a busy Hollywood actor with other hobbies.

The reason for a lot of Hollywood nonsense is "humans are super-special" or at least "the characters being portrayed in this movie are super-special". That's what Scientology is all about, after all, which draws so many egomaniacal Hollywood actors to it. Scientology is the worship of humanity in a very unnatural and unnerving way, and given that the wealthy people of the world are killing the planet, and may be in a position to then leave the planet and live elsewhere sometime in the 21st or 22nd century, it's no great leap to believe that Scientology is a religion that helps to allow these people to believe that what they are doing is right.