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Encaen

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EDH With The Escapist

Playing Commander with The Escapist staff.

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vxicepickxv

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I'm so tempted to run Mayael as my commander. It's going to look pretty impressive if I can figure out how to get out 3 Titans, and a few new big old angels once I get my hands on them. Of course, those wouldn't be the only creatures in there. I'd have some smaller ones too. I'd probably use druidic satchel just to draw targeted artifact hate away from more important artifacts.

The important part is to balance between defense and offense. The easiest way to do that is to try to speed through my deck as fast as possible. Nature's lore, Farseek, and a combination of dual lands and shock lands wouldn't hurt.
 

Slycne

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Convincing everyone that it was better to let me use Worldslayer instead of letting someone get to strong was the highlight of that night for me. Even if I did slightly screw up the ruling on it, it was fun to get Kalia of the Vast out and be the only one capable of "casting" anything.
 

ed_ification

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Let's see some decklists, if we could, please? If you're consistently whiffing on Mayael, maybe some suggestions could help...
 

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vxicepickxv said:
I'm so tempted to run Mayael as my commander. It's going to look pretty impressive if I can figure out how to get out 3 Titans, and a few new big old angels once I get my hands on them. Of course, those wouldn't be the only creatures in there. I'd have some smaller ones too. I'd probably use druidic satchel just to draw targeted artifact hate away from more important artifacts.

The important part is to balance between defense and offense. The easiest way to do that is to try to speed through my deck as fast as possible. Nature's lore, Farseek, and a combination of dual lands and shock lands wouldn't hurt.
If you're looking for ideas for Mayael, check this out [http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=10421]. I like the Fat Stacks article, and this one served as some inspiration for my building with Mayael in the first place. Though I do wonder at how consistently he's going to connect with her ability, given the slightly fewer big creatures in there than in my own brew.

ed_ification said:
Let's see some decklists, if we could, please? If you're consistently whiffing on Mayael, maybe some suggestions could help...
I'll work on this. Unfortunately, I don't have any of my EDH deck lists online at present. I do run 23 creatures with power 5 or greater in Mayael, though, so in theory I should be connecting pretty regularly.
 

Draconalis

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Collaborative win? You can do that?

I finally made my first EDH deck a few weeks ago... I went with Slivers.

It pleases me to see Slivers take the day.

As for fetching Kessig, you're in green, so you should run a Crop rotation

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=12432&type=card

G - sac a land, search your library for a land and put it into play.

Not tapped... and it doesn't have to be a basic.

So what I do, is tap a forest, sac that forest, convert it into commander tower, or anything else I need at the time.

I've got a kessig and crop rotation in my Sliver deck and killed my opponent with commander damage this way.

(I've only dueled EDH, I don't have enough friends with EDH decks to play multiplayer yet.)
 

Kross

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Stop picking on my Coffin Queens, they just want to hang out with their friends :(

(Playing http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ub-mirror-mill/ against @encaen 's spirit deck is where that question came from)
 

Encaen

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Draconalis said:
Collaborative win? You can do that?

I finally made my first EDH deck a few weeks ago... I went with Slivers.

It pleases me to see Slivers take the day.

As for fetching Kessig, you're in green, so you should run a Crop rotation

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=12432&type=card

G - sac a land, search your library for a land and put it into play.

Not tapped... and it doesn't have to be a basic.

So what I do, is tap a forest, sac that forest, convert it into commander tower, or anything else I need at the time.

I've got a kessig and crop rotation in my Sliver deck and killed my opponent with commander damage this way.

(I've only dueled EDH, I don't have enough friends with EDH decks to play multiplayer yet.)
I was just asking [user]Kross[/user] if he had any Crop Rotations, actually. Turns out he does, so that's definitely going in. Between that, Sylvan Scrying [http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=193405], I shouldn't have too much trouble getting Kessig out now.

Who are you using for your Sliver Commander? How are the games going for you so far? In playing against Slivers in general, in my experience they take a while to get off the ground, but if you can last long enough, they're basically unstoppable. This usually doesn't bode too well for 1v1 games, but it sounds like you're faring well enough.
 

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Encaen said:
I'll work on this. Unfortunately, I don't have any of my EDH deck lists online at present. I do run 23 creatures with power 5 or greater in Mayael, though, so in theory I should be connecting pretty regularly.
I run 25 power 5 or greater and can still wiff occasionally (but not often) in my deck; so you're nearly there. Though you definitely seem to run more land search than I do; which really makes me want to compare decks.
 

Draconalis

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Encaen said:
I've got the Overlord as my General. It's the only sound choice, the only other options are Queen and Legion... and the Overlord can tutor for both.

If I hit all my land drops (which is surprisingly much easier than I would have thought) my overlord hits the field on turn 5, 4 if I have kind of ramp, then the next turn I tutor for whatever I need, shroud, haste, queen. It gets ugly pretty damn fast actually.

I have yet to really push the deck for all it's worth though. I don't want my partner to get so sick of getting stomped by slivers that he refuses to play against it so I hold back on some decisions and draw the game out so it feels like a hard fought victory (Not all the time mind you, but sometimes I could end it so fast it's not even funny) I ultimately want my friend to have fun too, even if it's a loss.

Not to mention, I don't want to set the precedent that "He's playing slivers... jump him" when my other friends finally get an EDH deck together to join us.

Overlord + Unnatural selection = play 4 mana, mind-control target creature.

Granted my meta game is ridiculously niche, but my sliver deck has only lost one game... and it was against my friends, mentioned above, who don't have EDH decks. I was playing multiplayer against 2 constructed decks, and they jumped me.

The following game, they didn't jump me and I won.
 

d3s4nN

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Encaen said:
I was just asking [user]Kross[/user] if he had any Crop Rotations, actually. Turns out he does, so that's definitely going in. Between that, Sylvan Scrying [http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=193405], I shouldn't have too much trouble getting Kessig out now.
Nother possibility is reap and sow. it's 4 mana, but not only does it also put the land directly into play untapped, it also give's you the possibility to destroy another land if there is something nasty on the table. +for just 2 mana entwine cost you can do both!

http://magiccards.info/ds/en/81.html

As for those of you who run sliver decks: you might wanna check some of the changlings. Even though they technicaly aren't slivers, they DO count as such and therefore benefit of the boni from those 'real' slivers. just think about some sliver buffed optimus prime! (which is figure of destiny ^^ -> http://magiccards.info/pd2/en/5.html )

Or check out this dude... http://magiccards.info/lw/en/31.html


greetz d3s4nN
 

The Deadpool

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Draconalis said:
It's nice to see Sliver decks getting some love again. I miss my five colored Sliver deck...

Ever consider running Aluren with it? Considering a LOT of the high utility Slivers are less than 3 CMC (Talon, Muscle, Winged, Clot, Necrotic, Acidic, Crystaline, Heart). Drop the Dormant Sliver and you can pretty much just cycle through your deck this way... The advantage is almost always on the sliver side thanks to the whole unity thing...
 

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The Deadpool said:
Ever consider running Aluren with it?
With a CMC of 4 any slivers of consequence would already be out. Tt would better if I just ran the quick sliver. Then only my creatures have flash.

But frankly... finding room to fit it in would be the biggest problem... every card has a purpose.
 

Mar1Fox

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Have you considered using souls fire in the kresh deck? As the creature itself deals the damage so it can kill some one due to commander damage. Also having lots of trample for kresh isn't really necessary when you can just play a ton of dragon ala dragon storm and punch your opponents in the face to death.
 

The Deadpool

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There are a LOT of Slivers of consequence below 4 CMC... I mean, there are some seriously good 4 CMC Slivers out there, but wouldn't that just leave mana open to cast those, since the rest is free? Just a thought really...

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?page=1&action=advanced&subtype=+%5BSliver%5D&cmc=+%3C=%5B3%5D

3 CMC Slivers... Pretty substancial.
 

crimsonshrouds

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interesting game. I'm new to magic or still kinda new with starting out in innistrad. I was actually introduced through edh format playing with friends from work. My first deck being white with mikaeus the lunarch being my first general running some humans i got out of booster packs.
My friends have been playing this game for a long time have a lot of older cards and kickass decks.

I played with a my friends ADD deck and had Kallia of the vast out on i believe turn two. I had a god hand and my friend was pissed. He could never get it to go off like that. :D

Ive played his sliver deck quite a few times and had gemhide sliver out on turn two. You can guess how that game went. I became the cocroach so to speak.

My friend recently built an arcum daggson deck and had blight steel colossus out on turn five and gave it worldslayer. Me and the others at the table folded...

I built a blue back deck recently for the sole perpose of infect counter for a tournament my friend is hosting. Im thinking about turning it mono blue infect artifacts.

Another deck idea is a myr deck with conspiracy and the general being karona the false god.
 

fanklok

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Mar1Fox said:
Have you considered using souls fire in the kresh deck? As the creature itself deals the damage so it can kill some one due to commander damage. Also having lots of trample for kresh isn't really necessary when you can just play a ton of dragon ala dragon storm and punch your opponents in the face to death.
Commander damage only counts combat damage not all damage. If it was all damage Brion Stoutarm and Heartless Hidetsugu would be beyond insane.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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I'm not at all surprised that slivers did that well. Probably the best creature type in the game, really.
 

d3s4nN

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SL33TBL1ND said:
I'm not at all surprised that slivers did that well. Probably the best creature type in the game, really.
Really? I mean yes, they probably are the best creature type in the game, but running a tribe-style deck doesn't really work that well in any format, you always have some sort of a problem... too slow, missing good creatures on some slot and so on.
pretty much the only creature type deck stll playable is counter slivers in legacy and they aren't top notch either.

as for a sliver cmdr deck: the biggest advantage is also their biggest disadvantage, they are completly creature-based. they have a hell of a time against some control/destro heavy deck, since if your first two or three slivers +overlord get fried, it's over.
 

Mahorfeus

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Had some fun with my sacrifice-heavy EDH deck last night. Managed to get three Galvanoths up and running, though one of my opponents was all too happy to oblige by copying my spell and putting two Echo Mage copies out. Not fun.

I'm really liking the Grixis color combos so far.

I want an Ophidian Eye to sneak in for the combo wit Psychosis Crawler, but I think my group might lynch me if I do it.