EDH With The Escapist

[Draconalis]

There are a LOT of Slivers of consequence below 4 CMC... I mean, there are some seriously good 4 CMC Slivers out there, but wouldn't that just leave mana open to cast those, since the rest is free? Just a thought really...

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?page=1&action=advanced&subtype=+%5BSliver%5D&cmc=+%3C=%5B3%5D

3 CMC Slivers... Pretty substancial.

That's my point. They all cost less than 4, and it takes 4 to get that enchantment out. They would already be out before the enchantment ever hits the field.

And that enchantment works against me as well. I'd rather just have a Quick Sliver on the in play for 2 and give all my slivers Flash.

 

[The Deadpool]

Don't forget Aluren doens't just make them all instants, it also makes them free... As a five creature set, with lots of multi colored ones, this is a pretty good advantage. Add some means of keeping your hands full, and you can stay ahead of most other decks this way...

 

[Encaen]

I'll work on this. Unfortunately, I don't have any of my EDH deck lists online at present. I do run 23 creatures with power 5 or greater in Mayael, though, so in theory I should be connecting pretty regularly.

I run 25 power 5 or greater and can still wiff occasionally (but not often) in my deck; so you're nearly there. Though you definitely seem to run more land search than I do; which really makes me want to compare decks.

I've got Mayael up now here [http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mayael-the-anima-edh-26/], if you'd care to check it out. It's still pretty fresh and lacks refinement, plus I apparently took out a handful of the 5+ Power creatures on my last pass, leaving me with only 20. Any advice is welcome, but I'm strongly considering getting rid of Garruk's Packleader for a 5+ creature. Wild Evocation is fun, but will probably get cut for another creature as well. Nature's Wrath and Bedlam are both hilarious in the right circumstance, but aren't universally helpful so they'll probably get cut as well. That should bring me up to 24 5+ critters, which is hopefully close to where I want to be.

 

[prodcharger]

I've played a few different Mayael decks, tweaked for Wrathing, 1v1 Speed etc, but I've found all of the below are a must in all of them:

Anger
Elvish Piper
Seedborn Muse
Terastodon
Lightning Greaves
Swiftfoot Boots
Aura Shards
Greater Good
Quicksilver Amulet
Warstorm Surge

 

[babinro]

EDH is the format that rejuvenated my love for Magic a few years back. It became to expensive to try and own a playset (4 of a card) of fun cards like Sword of X and Y, or awesome Planeswalkers.

My greatest success in EDH has come from using Hanna, Ship's Navigator.
The deck plays a rather boring control game where you recur several great artifact/enchantment spells like Oblivion Ring, Parallax Wave, tons of Control Magic variants, Seal of Removal, Seal of Cleansing etc. It runs the occasional creature as well like Steel Hellkite, Wurmcoil Engine and Solemn Simulacrum since they work effectively with the general.

Most of my EDH decks take a more casual approach as they should.

 

[Draconalis]

Don't forget Aluren doens't just make them all instants, it also makes them free... As a five creature set, with lots of multi colored ones, this is a pretty good advantage. Add some means of keeping your hands full, and you can stay ahead of most other decks this way...

Ah... that's admittedly a good point... I can Tutor for a sliver with the overlord and have it hit the field immediately...

That combo reads as "play three mana, put a sliver from your library onto the field.

I might have to look into that a little bit... I just don't have the faintest as to what I would pull out.

 

[d3s4nN]

I've got Mayael up now here [http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mayael-the-anima-edh-26/], if you'd care to check it out. It's still pretty fresh and lacks refinement, plus I apparently took out a handful of the 5+ Power creatures on my last pass, leaving me with only 20. Any advice is welcome, but I'm strongly considering getting rid of Garruk's Packleader for a 5+ creature. Wild Evocation is fun, but will probably get cut for another creature as well. Nature's Wrath and Bedlam are both hilarious in the right circumstance, but aren't universally helpful so they'll probably get cut as well. That should bring me up to 24 5+ critters, which is hopefully close to where I want to be.

I've only just skimmed the deck list, but i'm definitly missing some things in there...

Defense of the Heart [http://magiccards.info/ul/en/100.html]
Worldly Tutor!!!!!!!!! [http://magiccards.info/6e/en/269.html]
Sensei's Divining Top!!!!!!!! [http://magiccards.info/fve/en/10.html]
Chord of Calling [http://magiccards.info/rav/en/156.html]
Eladamri's Call [http://magiccards.info/ps/en/106.html]
Kozilek [http://magiccards.info/roe/en/6.html]

 

[cwcriner]

I've got Mayael up now here [http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mayael-the-anima-edh-26/], if you'd care to check it out. It's still pretty fresh and lacks refinement, plus I apparently took out a handful of the 5+ Power creatures on my last pass, leaving me with only 20. Any advice is welcome, but I'm strongly considering getting rid of Garruk's Packleader for a 5+ creature. Wild Evocation is fun, but will probably get cut for another creature as well. Nature's Wrath and Bedlam are both hilarious in the right circumstance, but aren't universally helpful so they'll probably get cut as well. That should bring me up to 24 5+ critters, which is hopefully close to where I want to be.

whoo boy. so many tap down options. You definitely take a different stance than I do. That said I feel you have too many tap down options that could be better served for being other +5: fatties to consider: spell breaker behemoth; Inferno titan; Primeval titan; and Vorenclex, Voice of hunger. Artifacts you should look for outside the staples include Rings of Birghthearth and quicksilver amulet.

 

[Encaen]

I've got Mayael up now here [http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mayael-the-anima-edh-26/], if you'd care to check it out. It's still pretty fresh and lacks refinement, plus I apparently took out a handful of the 5+ Power creatures on my last pass, leaving me with only 20. Any advice is welcome, but I'm strongly considering getting rid of Garruk's Packleader for a 5+ creature. Wild Evocation is fun, but will probably get cut for another creature as well. Nature's Wrath and Bedlam are both hilarious in the right circumstance, but aren't universally helpful so they'll probably get cut as well. That should bring me up to 24 5+ critters, which is hopefully close to where I want to be.

whoo boy. so many tap down options. You definitely take a different stance than I do. That said I feel you have too many tap down options that could be better served for being other +5: fatties to consider: spell breaker behemoth; Inferno titan; Primeval titan; and Vorenclex, Voice of hunger. Artifacts you should look for outside the staples include Rings of Birghthearth and quicksilver amulet.

There seems to be some consensus here, so I'll definitely go ahead and include ways to cheat critters into play, ie. Quicksilver Amulet and Elvish Piper. One problem I've got is that many of my cards are preoccupied in other decks and my Standard decks tend to take priority over EDH, so my Titans are all in reserve for Titan Ramp (pending Cavern of Souls) and Omnath has my Vorinclex and some of my other nasty green guys. I'm excited for Titans to rotate out of Standard so they can get a permanent home in some EDH decks. This is definitely getting Inferno and Primeval once they rotate.

As to tappers, I don't have it posted yet but Rafiq has even more tapdown effects to try to power commander damage through which I suppose isn't really necessary in this sort of build. I'll probably play with your suggestion, and swap a couple of them out for more fatties, though I'll need to keep a couple in since Kaalia of the Vast is pretty prevalent in my playgroup, and always needs to be tapped. I'll see about updating this weekend. Thanks for the feedback!

 

[TheGuy(wantstobe)]

I've got Mayael up now here [http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mayael-the-anima-edh-26/], if you'd care to check it out. It's still pretty fresh and lacks refinement, plus I apparently took out a handful of the 5+ Power creatures on my last pass, leaving me with only 20. Any advice is welcome, but I'm strongly considering getting rid of Garruk's Packleader for a 5+ creature. Wild Evocation is fun, but will probably get cut for another creature as well. Nature's Wrath and Bedlam are both hilarious in the right circumstance, but aren't universally helpful so they'll probably get cut as well. That should bring me up to 24 5+ critters, which is hopefully close to where I want to be.

whoo boy. so many tap down options. You definitely take a different stance than I do. That said I feel you have too many tap down options that could be better served for being other +5: fatties to consider: spell breaker behemoth; Inferno titan; Primeval titan; and Vorenclex, Voice of hunger. Artifacts you should look for outside the staples include Rings of Birghthearth and quicksilver amulet.

There seems to be some consensus here, so I'll definitely go ahead and include ways to cheat critters into play, ie. Quicksilver Amulet and Elvish Piper. One problem I've got is that many of my cards are preoccupied in other decks and my Standard decks tend to take priority over EDH, so my Titans are all in reserve for Titan Ramp (pending Cavern of Souls) and Omnath has my Vorinclex and some of my other nasty green guys. I'm excited for Titans to rotate out of Standard so they can get a permanent home in some EDH decks. This is definitely getting Inferno and Primeval once they rotate.

As to tappers, I don't have it posted yet but Rafiq has even more tapdown effects to try to power commander damage through which I suppose isn't really necessary in this sort of build. I'll probably play with your suggestion, and swap a couple of them out for more fatties, though I'll need to keep a couple in since Kaalia of the Vast is pretty prevalent in my playgroup, and always needs to be tapped. I'll see about updating this weekend. Thanks for the feedback!

For your Mayeal deck specifically

Worldly tutor
Living Wish (Official rule is that you can have up a 10 card sideboard for wish purposes but as with any casual format house rules trump official so check what your group prefers)
Divining Top
Spawnsire of Ulamog (with every eldrazi and changeling you can think of to grab with it. Be prepared to get punched in the face if you do though)
Channel

Ups the consistency of your deck and the channel will let you do some nasty things with the fatties you have.

A decent EDH card to look for that slots into every deck is Tower of the Magistrate [http://magiccards.info/mm/en/330.html]. The ability to give protection from artifacts actually helps with the politicking that goes on in a commander game as you can save an ally by making the creature attacking him drop his jitte or Sword of x and x.

 

[ed_ification]

Farsight Mask would be good in there - card draw is NEVER bad.

Also, cards with Buyback... Fanning the Flames, etc.

 

[ed_ification]

Ah, and more lands that can tap for ANY color - Meteor Crater and Thran Quarry. You could also add in something like Birds of Paradise, Ghostly Prison, Fecundity, Spidersilk Armor... Wild Pair could be a lot of fun in there.

 

[TheGuy(wantstobe)]

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How has the Escapist's Magic Master done in the pre-release today and how do you find the format?

For me I went 5-0 and won some more packs using an aggresive R/G deck, posted below.

Spoiler: Deck

Non Creatures
1 Guise of Fire
1 Pillar of Flame
1 Thunderbolt
1 Thatcher Revolt
1 Vessel of Endless rest
1 Blessings of Nature
2 Thunderous Wrath

Creatures
1 Diregraf Escort
1 Timberland guide
1 Wandering Wolf
2 Gloomwidow
1 Trusted Forcemage
1 Fervent Cathar
1 Riot Ringleader
1 Heirs of stromkirk
1 Havengul vampire
1 Mad Prophet
1 Nettle Swine
2 Geist Trappers
1 Wolfir Silverheart
1 Pathbreaker Wurm

Land
9 forest
1 Mountain

A deck like this was pretty much perfect against the entire field which was rather predictably flying stuff of various colours with 2 guys with reach naturally 2 that soulbond to give reach and Thunderbolt. The format itself though is very slow focusing a lot more on a good 4,5+6 drop in your deck to win while only have little things early, My deck also exploited this with my pump and early removal/creatures to force through lots of damage early on.
I never miracled Thunderous wrath to smack someone in the face though despite doing it often... I always removed a blocker/attacker setting up better attacks. The looter is awesome for this as you do it during your opponents upkeep to check if you miracle.

Favourite play of the day:
Havengul vampire and Riot Ringleader in play. Play Thatcher revolt, swing for 9 leaving vampire back. Thanks to blocks my opponent takes 6 and trades with my ringleader leaving me with a 7/7 vampire that grows when creatures die or when it hits an opponent. This happened turn 5!

MVC:
Wolfir Silverheart. Whenever this guy hit the table I won and I won fast. Whoever at Wizards thought 12 power over two bodies(8 on wolf +4 on other soulbond guy) for 5 mana was fine in limited at rare is out of their freaking minds. First pick this in Draft pack 1 and 2 and seriously consider him in pack 3.

 

[d3s4nN]

MVC:
Wolfir Silverheart. Whenever this guy hit the table I won and I won fast. Whoever at Wizards thought 12 power over two bodies(8 on wolf +4 on other soulbond guy) for 5 mana was fine in limited at rare is out of their freaking minds. First pick this in Draft pack 1 and 2 and seriously consider him in pack 3.

You are so Fuckin right... i saw no less than 3 r/g decks today which at one point or another just hammered away at me with this guy... and twice he was bound with a double striker...

But Wolfir is just the best example for how broken soulbound in general is. that mechanic is way better than anything else in the last 5 or 6 years, maybe with the exception of infect.

Oh and another thing... does anyone else think that the helvault event was pretty dumb? i mean, when i heard first about it i was pretty pumped, you can get additional free stuff! i got wary when i saw those achievement cards... they were way to stupid/easy and alas: i was right. i get the spin-downs, everyone loves spindowns, but tokens and FFS, OVERSIZED CARDS?!? what are you going to do with these things, except plaster your walls with them when you're out of wallpaper?
i think that was badly executed at least.