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You're kind of right here. For most Russians equality is more important than the right to vote. That's why socialism was and still is(communist party has ~25% of all votes) so big there. That's why they're trying to get a "rich-people-tax" through parliament right now. And that's the reason why Abramovich(Russian billionaire who obviously got all his money by stealing from the government in the 90s) was assigned governor of a northern "State" and had to pay for all the modernization out of his own fortune. That's why Berezovsky(a guy who stole 90 Millions from a partially state-owned air company, fled to London and made himself look like a "Kremlin-critic") is still wanted by the Russian Government.White-Death said:
Most Russian people(not all of course), just have a different mentality than Western people.
Russians are great for games. Why?
They're living humans, so have a realism edge over zombies, aliens etc. They also don't have the comically evil stigma of nazis, nor the historical limitations.
Everyone's already familiar with their old infantry waves, so seeing a horde of them running into an obvious death trap isn't just accepted, it's expected.
On the other hand, most people are also familiar with how hard core Russian military dudes (as well as criminals) can be, so they work just as well if you simply need a couple of highly skilled, ruthless professionals (with or without one token alcoholic).
They made some awesome technology, which of course means that if you're going to have a game with crazy tech, nobody is going to be surprised when it's Russian scientists who made said tech.
Russia itself is massive; you're going to have a hard time explaining how nobody noticed the massive tech labs and war factories in a densely populated country, but you almost expect there'd be a ton of crazy shit in Russia, not even particularly well hidden but remote enough that nobody realises it's there.
And finally, the Russians themselves seem to have exactly zero fucks to give about how games and other media portray them, so no need to worry about controversy.
Would I like to see some more variety? Sure. But I'm not the kind of politically correct dumbass that is offended because a game might potentially offend a group of people I don't belong to, even though that group of people doesn't seem to give a shit.
They're living humans, so have a realism edge over zombies, aliens etc. They also don't have the comically evil stigma of nazis, nor the historical limitations.
Everyone's already familiar with their old infantry waves, so seeing a horde of them running into an obvious death trap isn't just accepted, it's expected.
On the other hand, most people are also familiar with how hard core Russian military dudes (as well as criminals) can be, so they work just as well if you simply need a couple of highly skilled, ruthless professionals (with or without one token alcoholic).
They made some awesome technology, which of course means that if you're going to have a game with crazy tech, nobody is going to be surprised when it's Russian scientists who made said tech.
Russia itself is massive; you're going to have a hard time explaining how nobody noticed the massive tech labs and war factories in a densely populated country, but you almost expect there'd be a ton of crazy shit in Russia, not even particularly well hidden but remote enough that nobody realises it's there.
And finally, the Russians themselves seem to have exactly zero fucks to give about how games and other media portray them, so no need to worry about controversy.
Would I like to see some more variety? Sure. But I'm not the kind of politically correct dumbass that is offended because a game might potentially offend a group of people I don't belong to, even though that group of people doesn't seem to give a shit.
As a Russian, I can tell you this.
Russia is friggin undefeatable in any war which we didn't start ourselves.
Seriously, ask Napoleon or Hitler.
So all Russians view the anti-Russian FPS thing as a... "yeah they wish" and secretly all knowing that if what we'll pwn the hell out of the US.
Not to get on political shallow ice, but the 08.08.08 Russia-Georgia conflict actually had the Georgian side with American military training, advisors and equipment and they got overtaken pretty easily.
But again, nukes... the earth has them, so a Russia-US conflict is out of the question.
Besides, I see no reason to take over the US as a Russian. I like your entertainment stuff, you don't really have some kind of resource we want badly, so yeah.
Oh and in CoD and BF3 multiplayer, there are 2 teams. So half the time you're killing simple US soldiers for the glory of mother Russia.
That is all.
Russia is friggin undefeatable in any war which we didn't start ourselves.
Seriously, ask Napoleon or Hitler.
So all Russians view the anti-Russian FPS thing as a... "yeah they wish" and secretly all knowing that if what we'll pwn the hell out of the US.
Not to get on political shallow ice, but the 08.08.08 Russia-Georgia conflict actually had the Georgian side with American military training, advisors and equipment and they got overtaken pretty easily.
But again, nukes... the earth has them, so a Russia-US conflict is out of the question.
Besides, I see no reason to take over the US as a Russian. I like your entertainment stuff, you don't really have some kind of resource we want badly, so yeah.
Oh and in CoD and BF3 multiplayer, there are 2 teams. So half the time you're killing simple US soldiers for the glory of mother Russia.
That is all.
Um... no.urilukin said:
First off the M16 has undergone changes since it's vietnam version to make it more reliable (so our troops would stop picking up AK's for being better...)
Second, China pwning everyone? that's a laugh. Know what was really good for dealing with mass infantry rushes? Land Mines. Which is why there's still hundreds of thousands of them out there unaccounted for.
Third, if you think size of the army is everything... Saddam thought the same thing. During Gulf War Iraq's army was what... the 4th largest in the world? And it got obliterated in a month.
I could go into further detail, but I already sound like your average "America Fuck yea!" idiot, so I'll stop while I'm ahead.
I was addressing the Americans.urilukin said:
Откуда ты кстати?
Привет из Калнинграда.urilukin said:Домодедово
But on topic, I've noticed that CoD lately is looking for "disturbing content" to put into it's games just for shock value. Can't say I like it.
You guys don't have the military or the economic stability to do this.Bhaalspawn said:I just realized. When the US finally debts themselves into oblivion, guess who will be the new global superpower?
OT:I haven't played MW3 and I'm not planning on it, but I can say this. There really is nothing else. I know it's immature and quite bad, but there really is no other *possible* enemy. Many people in America still think Russian can become a superpower again. Combine that with the idea that FPS games *have* to have an enemy with a face, and you get "LOLZ RUSSIANS!" I, personally, am a proponent of games where we face an enemy that looks both the same as the civilians and can easily blend into the crowd (not trying to be racist, sorry if I've offended anyone, but that's what real war is now). The enemy uses hit and run tactics, guerilla warfare, and human shields. However, a game like that won't go over with about 90% of the FPS crowd because there's no explosions and gratuitous violence. I'm sorry, but there really is no alternative other than futuristic FPS's against Russians, or futuristic FPS's against Aliens.
Have you ever heard of a joke? and look at America and its glorious economic stability with its huge-arse debt.bl4ckh4wk64 said:You guys don't have the military or the economic stability to do this.Bhaalspawn said:I just realized. When the US finally debts themselves into oblivion, guess who will be the new global superpower?
I can understand that it's a joke and I wasn't meaning it as a serious answer... And even now, America has a much better economy that much of Europe, minus Germany, and our military is still the most prominent, best trained in the world. I'm not saying that because of my American bias, I'm saying that based on the operations they've completed. Special Forces units? Navy SEALs, Army Rangers, Marine Expeditionary Units, Marine Force Recon, Deltas, etc. They have all completed missions with extraordinary success. Russian Special Forces? Spetsnaz. Beslan Massacre? Tragedy. Definitely not befitting of a special forces unit. Yes, Spetsnaz have some badass training programs and they're taught to fight with a shovel (which is pretty fuckin awesome if I do say so myself) but that's all for naught if you can't manage to covertly storm a building.urilukin said:Have you ever heard of a joke? and look at America and its glorious economic stability with its huge-arse debt.bl4ckh4wk64 said:You guys don't have the military or the economic stability to do this.Bhaalspawn said:I just realized. When the US finally debts themselves into oblivion, guess who will be the new global superpower?
America does not have a better economy than Europe... and the only reason America has the biggest military is because they spend 99% of taxes on it.bl4ckh4wk64 said:I can understand that it's a joke and I wasn't meaning it as a serious answer... And even now, America has a much better economy that much of Europe, minus Germany, and our military is still the most prominent, best trained in the world. I'm not saying that because of my American bias, I'm saying that based on the operations they've completed. Special Forces units? Navy SEALs, Army Rangers, Marine Expeditionary Units, Marine Force Recon, Deltas, etc. They have all completed missions with extraordinary success. Russian Special Forces? Spetsnaz. Beslan Massacre? Tragedy. Definitely not befitting of a special forces unit. Yes, Spetsnaz have some badass training programs and they're taught to fight with a shovel (which is pretty fuckin awesome if I do say so myself) but that's all for naught if you can't manage to covertly storm a building.urilukin said:Have you ever heard of a joke? and look at America and its glorious economic stability with its huge-arse debt.bl4ckh4wk64 said:You guys don't have the military or the economic stability to do this.Bhaalspawn said:I just realized. When the US finally debts themselves into oblivion, guess who will be the new global superpower?