Educate yo'Self!

[Lullabye]

I am the person that needs education. I don't understand all the obscure or even mainstream things people are onto.
Oh wait, I got a good one.
Once in my ...eh, social studies class, we were discussing famous Canadians. At one point someone said something about Terry Fox [http://www.cbc.ca/greatest/top_ten/nominee/fox-terry.html].
In her infinite wisdom, a certain girl perked up with "Terry Fox!? Isn't he, like, the guy that ran around the world?"
Never have you seen so many people facepalm at once.

 

[GodKlown]

I run into this on a different level. When engaged in conversations in the last decade, I notice people tend to stray from the point often, regardless of how much you attempt to keep things down to a single topic. Either they ignore your attempts, or become confused as to why you stuck to the original topic. I tend to lose people within the confines of their own conversations because they become too scatter-brained during talking that they themselves can't recall what it was they were even talking about.

However, in regards to the original thread, your reaction does seem a little strange when people didn't recognize the music you were playing. If you had said "educate yo'self" as a joke and then proceeded to tell them a little more about the music, I think you might have left a better impression on the group. But becoming fed up with a group that had no knowledge beforehand of what you were going to do, and then becoming frustrated when they didn't immediately recognize the group shows you lack a little maturity. Next time if you want to expose people to something new, preface it by asking them if they have heard of the group and then offer to play a song instead of just playing the song and then getting pissed because no one knew what it was. I would suggest you try to put yourself in their shoes (which you might have been prior to receiving the collection) to better understand how negatively your reaction might have been.
It's good that you are expanding your own horizons, but don't assume that everyone has shared the same experiences of your life at the same time you do. That's just ignorant.

 

[Susan Arendt]

Ever talk to someone about something, and they don't know what you're talking about? Does it ever happen regarding something that the person in question really should know, and just leaves you thinking "This person needs some education"? Does to me.

For example; I recently got pretty much the entire Blue Oyster Cult collection from my uncle, and I put a couple of songs on my phone. I was at school and people were playing music, so I told them to turn off their music, so I could "play something classic." I started playing (Don't Fear) The Reaper and everyone just looked at me. "Who is this?" they asked. "Blue Oyster Clut" I replied. "Who?" At this point I just stared at them, and then I shouted "Educate yo'self!" Then I left, I couldn't bear to sit there anymore.

Wow. So rather than take the opportunity to introduce them to something new that they might enjoy, or to share a bit of yourself, you chose instead to be an arrogant tool.

I can only hope that when you encounter someone who knows something you don't, they do the same to you.

Wow ok. That wasn't really called for. I actually don't know what to say to that, that's the most directly I've ever been insulted on this site. It's weird that you can call me an arrogant tool, when you weren't even there. I did try and give them the experience, but I was quickly drowned out by their music again.
I mean wow.

Don't want to be called a jerk, don't present yourself as one. By your own declaration, you shouted at people because they didn't know something you did. It doesn't get much more rude than that.

 

[reg42]

Ever talk to someone about something, and they don't know what you're talking about? Does it ever happen regarding something that the person in question really should know, and just leaves you thinking "This person needs some education"? Does to me.

For example; I recently got pretty much the entire Blue Oyster Cult collection from my uncle, and I put a couple of songs on my phone. I was at school and people were playing music, so I told them to turn off their music, so I could "play something classic." I started playing (Don't Fear) The Reaper and everyone just looked at me. "Who is this?" they asked. "Blue Oyster Clut" I replied. "Who?" At this point I just stared at them, and then I shouted "Educate yo'self!" Then I left, I couldn't bear to sit there anymore.

Wow. So rather than take the opportunity to introduce them to something new that they might enjoy, or to share a bit of yourself, you chose instead to be an arrogant tool.

I can only hope that when you encounter someone who knows something you don't, they do the same to you.

Wow ok. That wasn't really called for. I actually don't know what to say to that, that's the most directly I've ever been insulted on this site. It's weird that you can call me an arrogant tool, when you weren't even there. I did try and give them the experience, but I was quickly drowned out by their music again.
I mean wow.

Don't want to be called a jerk, don't present yourself as one. By your own declaration, you shouted at people because they didn't know something you did. It doesn't get much more rude than that.

I shouted, sure. In a joking manner. They are my friends, we're teenagers, we do stuff like that. I know I didn't say that before, but you shouldn't judge me so quickly.

[...]I told them to turn off their music, so I could "play something classic." I started playing (Don't Fear) The Reaper and everyone just looked at me. "Who is this?" they asked. "Blue Oyster Clut" I replied. "Who?" At this point I just stared at them, and then I shouted "Educate yo'self!" Then I left, I couldn't bear to sit there anymore.

So you couldn't bear to be with people who didn't know a band that was popular decades before you were even born yourself?

Wow, I imagine you must be quite the popular fellow...

These same people listen to Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath and such.

 

[Poomanchu745]

Ever talk to someone about something, and they don't know what you're talking about? Does it ever happen regarding something that the person in question really should know, and just leaves you thinking "This person needs some education"? Does to me.

For example; I recently got pretty much the entire Blue Oyster Cult collection from my uncle, and I put a couple of songs on my phone. I was at school and people were playing music, so I told them to turn off their music, so I could "play something classic." I started playing (Don't Fear) The Reaper and everyone just looked at me. "Who is this?" they asked. "Blue Oyster Clut" I replied. "Who?" At this point I just stared at them, and then I shouted "Educate yo'self!" Then I left, I couldn't bear to sit there anymore.

Wow. So rather than take the opportunity to introduce them to something new that they might enjoy, or to share a bit of yourself, you chose instead to be an arrogant tool.

I can only hope that when you encounter someone who knows something you don't, they do the same to you.

Wow ok. That wasn't really called for. I actually don't know what to say to that, that's the most directly I've ever been insulted on this site. It's weird that you can call me an arrogant tool, when you weren't even there. I did try and give them the experience, but I was quickly drowned out by their music again.
I mean wow.

Don't want to be called a jerk, don't present yourself as one. By your own declaration, you shouted at people because they didn't know something you did. It doesn't get much more rude than that.

LOL. This is looking to be the start of a fight. Lemme just stop you both right now and say, cool down and quit arguing. Fighting never solved anything but creating more hate.

 

[Hurr Durr Derp]

[...]I told them to turn off their music, so I could "play something classic." I started playing (Don't Fear) The Reaper and everyone just looked at me. "Who is this?" they asked. "Blue Oyster Clut" I replied. "Who?" At this point I just stared at them, and then I shouted "Educate yo'self!" Then I left, I couldn't bear to sit there anymore.

So you couldn't bear to be with people who didn't know a band that was popular decades before you were even born yourself?

Wow, I imagine you must be quite the popular fellow...

So you're saying if a band is more than 10 years older than your date of birth, you shouldn't have heard of them? That's a bit narrow minded and i'm sure you wouldn't say the same thing about other bands.

I never implied that they shouldn't have heard of them. What I am saying is that you shouldn't simply assume that they have heard of it, and more to the point that you shouldn't think less of them because they haven't. There's no point in being that pretentious about these things. And yes, I would say the same thing about any other band. Sure I'd find it strange if someone would tell me they'd never heard of -I dunno- the Beatles or something, but I wouldn't think it a big enough deal to fret over it until I "couldn't bear to sit there anymore."

 

[Hurr Durr Derp]

[...]I told them to turn off their music, so I could "play something classic." I started playing (Don't Fear) The Reaper and everyone just looked at me. "Who is this?" they asked. "Blue Oyster Clut" I replied. "Who?" At this point I just stared at them, and then I shouted "Educate yo'self!" Then I left, I couldn't bear to sit there anymore.

So you couldn't bear to be with people who didn't know a band that was popular decades before you were even born yourself?

Wow, I imagine you must be quite the popular fellow...

These same people listen to Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath and such.

Your point being?

 

[reg42]

[...]I told them to turn off their music, so I could "play something classic." I started playing (Don't Fear) The Reaper and everyone just looked at me. "Who is this?" they asked. "Blue Oyster Clut" I replied. "Who?" At this point I just stared at them, and then I shouted "Educate yo'self!" Then I left, I couldn't bear to sit there anymore.

So you couldn't bear to be with people who didn't know a band that was popular decades before you were even born yourself?

Wow, I imagine you must be quite the popular fellow...

These same people listen to Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath and such.

Your point being?

My point being that they quite experienced in the field of classic rock. I thought I was pretty clear about that.

 

[Susan Arendt]

Ever talk to someone about something, and they don't know what you're talking about? Does it ever happen regarding something that the person in question really should know, and just leaves you thinking "This person needs some education"? Does to me.

For example; I recently got pretty much the entire Blue Oyster Cult collection from my uncle, and I put a couple of songs on my phone. I was at school and people were playing music, so I told them to turn off their music, so I could "play something classic." I started playing (Don't Fear) The Reaper and everyone just looked at me. "Who is this?" they asked. "Blue Oyster Clut" I replied. "Who?" At this point I just stared at them, and then I shouted "Educate yo'self!" Then I left, I couldn't bear to sit there anymore.

Wow. So rather than take the opportunity to introduce them to something new that they might enjoy, or to share a bit of yourself, you chose instead to be an arrogant tool.

I can only hope that when you encounter someone who knows something you don't, they do the same to you.

Wow ok. That wasn't really called for. I actually don't know what to say to that, that's the most directly I've ever been insulted on this site. It's weird that you can call me an arrogant tool, when you weren't even there. I did try and give them the experience, but I was quickly drowned out by their music again.
I mean wow.

Don't want to be called a jerk, don't present yourself as one. By your own declaration, you shouted at people because they didn't know something you did. It doesn't get much more rude than that.

I shouted, sure. In a joking manner. They are my friends, we're teenagers, we do stuff like that. I know I didn't say that before, but you shouldn't judge me so quickly.

Fair enough, but we can only judge your actions based on what you tell us.

And I would agree that it's surprising that people into classic rock were completely unfamiliar with such an iconic song.

 

[El Cookio]

[...]I told them to turn off their music, so I could "play something classic." I started playing (Don't Fear) The Reaper and everyone just looked at me. "Who is this?" they asked. "Blue Oyster Clut" I replied. "Who?" At this point I just stared at them, and then I shouted "Educate yo'self!" Then I left, I couldn't bear to sit there anymore.

So you couldn't bear to be with people who didn't know a band that was popular decades before you were even born yourself?

Wow, I imagine you must be quite the popular fellow...

So you're saying if a band is more than 10 years older than your date of birth, you shouldn't have heard of them? That's a bit narrow minded and i'm sure you wouldn't say the same thing about other bands.

I never implied that they shouldn't have heard of them. What I am saying is that you shouldn't simply assume that they have heard of it, and more to the point that you shouldn't think less of them because they haven't. There's no point in being that pretentious about these things. And yes, I would say the same thing about any other band. Sure I'd find it strange if someone would tell me they'd never heard of -I dunno- the Beatles or something, but I wouldn't think it a big enough deal to fret over it until I "couldn't bear to sit there anymore."

I understand your post, and I agree with you, it was perhaps an overreaction.

 

[Nalesnik]

On a related note: At my summer job, I was talking with some of my co-workers, and I used the word "expansive" to describe something (I don't remember what, I think it was about a field) and they all though "expansive" isn't a real word, and that I made it up. I was like "...seriously guys?" I had to fired up dictionary.com to prove it.

 

[Hurr Durr Derp]

[...]I told them to turn off their music, so I could "play something classic." I started playing (Don't Fear) The Reaper and everyone just looked at me. "Who is this?" they asked. "Blue Oyster Clut" I replied. "Who?" At this point I just stared at them, and then I shouted "Educate yo'self!" Then I left, I couldn't bear to sit there anymore.

So you couldn't bear to be with people who didn't know a band that was popular decades before you were even born yourself?

Wow, I imagine you must be quite the popular fellow...

These same people listen to Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath and such.

Your point being?

My point being that they quite experienced in the field of classic rock. I thought I was pretty clear about that.

So, them knowing two other bands from 'before their time' somehow justifies you throwing a fit just because they don't recognize one fourty-year old band you happen to like?

Also, knowing about Led Zep and Black Sabbath doesn't exactly make one "experienced in the field of classic rock". Granted, neither does knowing about Blue Oyster Cult, but that's not the point. Either way, my problem with your post wasn't whether or not they should've known any one band, but more the way you reacted to it.

I mean, come on. "You don't know this one old band so I can't even stand to be in the same room as you!" That's how your post came across. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but that at least sounds awfully pretentious. From the edits made to your first post I take it that wasn't your intention at all, but it does very much come across like that.

 

[reg42]

[...]I told them to turn off their music, so I could "play something classic." I started playing (Don't Fear) The Reaper and everyone just looked at me. "Who is this?" they asked. "Blue Oyster Clut" I replied. "Who?" At this point I just stared at them, and then I shouted "Educate yo'self!" Then I left, I couldn't bear to sit there anymore.

So you couldn't bear to be with people who didn't know a band that was popular decades before you were even born yourself?

Wow, I imagine you must be quite the popular fellow...

So you're saying if a band is more than 10 years older than your date of birth, you shouldn't have heard of them? That's a bit narrow minded and i'm sure you wouldn't say the same thing about other bands.

I never implied that they shouldn't have heard of them. What I am saying is that you shouldn't simply assume that they have heard of it, and more to the point that you shouldn't think less of them because they haven't. There's no point in being that pretentious about these things. And yes, I would say the same thing about any other band. Sure I'd find it strange if someone would tell me they'd never heard of -I dunno- the Beatles or something, but I wouldn't think it a big enough deal to fret over it until I "couldn't bear to sit there anymore."

You realise I was exaggerating right? You seem intent on bashing me, even though I made clear what the situation was ages ago.

 

[Hurr Durr Derp]

You realise I was exaggerating right? You seem intent on bashing me, even though I made clear what the situation was ages ago.

After you edited your post, sure. But as I pointed out in my previous post, the way you originally put it just made you look like a jerk. I'm not saying you are a jerk, just that your unedited first post made you look like one.

 

[Rednog]

I've pretty much given up on thinking that everyone should know X part of Y culture.
Hell when I moved to Europe I was completely flabbergasted people here hadn't heard of really famous movies back in the states. Ie Back to the Future, Jurassic Park..etc.
Walking up to a random person in the states and them not knowing what it is would be shocking but out of like 100 kids in my class only 1 person heard of them, but hadn't actually seen the movies.

 

[reg42]

You realise I was exaggerating right? You seem intent on bashing me, even though I made clear what the situation was ages ago.

After you edited your post, sure. But as I pointed out in my previous post, the way you originally put it just made you look like a jerk. I'm not saying you are a jerk, just that your unedited first post made you look like one.

Whatever. Can we please stop with this? I've got about 7 messages telling me what a dick I am, and it's really depressing.

 

[Yormungandr]

[...]I told them to turn off their music, so I could "play something classic." I started playing (Don't Fear) The Reaper and everyone just looked at me. "Who is this?" they asked. "Blue Oyster Clut" I replied. "Who?" At this point I just stared at them, and then I shouted "Educate yo'self!" Then I left, I couldn't bear to sit there anymore.

So you couldn't bear to be with people who didn't know a band that was popular decades before you were even born yourself?

Wow, I imagine you must be quite the popular fellow...

So you're saying if a band is more than 10 years older than your date of birth, you shouldn't have heard of them? That's a bit narrow minded and i'm sure you wouldn't say the same thing about other bands.

And it's not narrow minded to expect people to know every song and band you know?
Because that's what it sounds like he's saying...

Not necessarily, but i'd expect most people to have at least a little knowledge of some music from before they were born, either from their parents, radio or wherever. There are just some songs you have to have heard just by living!

Sure, I agree. But which songs they are, that differs for everyone, they probably know some old songs you've never heard of

 

[ColorfulObscurity]

That happens to me way too often.

Take one of my friends for example:
I'll show her something, and she doesn't know what it is. I explain, then two seconds later, someone asks me about the same thing. She responds to them saying "How could you not know of this thing?"
Well apparently you didn't because I had to explain it to you two seconds ago.

Sometimes, she makes me question why I put myself through the torture that is human interaction.

 

[Hurr Durr Derp]

You realise I was exaggerating right? You seem intent on bashing me, even though I made clear what the situation was ages ago.

After you edited your post, sure. But as I pointed out in my previous post, the way you originally put it just made you look like a jerk. I'm not saying you are a jerk, just that your unedited first post made you look like one.

Whatever. Can we please stop with this? I've got about 7 messages telling me what a dick I am, and it's really depressing.

I just told you I didn't think you were a dick, only that the first version of your post made you look like one. You exaggerated a bit and looked worse for it, but you explained yourself and as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it. I have no desire to insult you and I don't think you deserve to be insulted. Just... try to word your posts a bit more carefully next time you make a new topic. First posts always get a lot of attention, and if you're gonna set yourself up as the jerk (god knows I have, on occasion) just be prepared for argumentative and judgmental asses like myself to jump a the opportunity.

Take it as overly belligerent advice, not mean-spirited criticism.

 

[reg42]

You realise I was exaggerating right? You seem intent on bashing me, even though I made clear what the situation was ages ago.

After you edited your post, sure. But as I pointed out in my previous post, the way you originally put it just made you look like a jerk. I'm not saying you are a jerk, just that your unedited first post made you look like one.

Whatever. Can we please stop with this? I've got about 7 messages telling me what a dick I am, and it's really depressing.

I just told you I didn't think you were a dick, only that the first version of your post made you look like one. You exaggerated a bit and looked worse for it, but you explained yourself and as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it. I have no desire to insult you and I don't think you deserve to be insulted. Just... try to word your posts a bit more carefully next time you make a new topic. First posts always get a lot of attention, and if you're gonna set yourself up as the jerk (god knows I have, on occasion) just be prepared for argumentative and judgmental asses like myself to jump a the opportunity.

Take it as overly belligerent advice, not mean-spirited criticism.

AAAAaaah... Ok, it all makes sense now.
Thanks for the advice man, I'm gonna take a guess and say that 90% of the problem is that I'm really tired, and this is probably a good sign to say that I should get to sleep.