Eek! A spooky ghost!

[lasherman]

I am neutral on the thought really. I personally have never experienced a ghost encounter which is why I not going to say I believe. I'm also not going to say I don't believe in ghost because, there is so much in this world we just don't know or understand...who's to say that they don't exist? In fact, I have known people who apparently seen ghost, but since I wasn't there to see them myself I can confirm anything unless I am presented with untampered proof. 'Hope I addressed why I am neutral on ghost.

Interesting topic might I add

Thank you!

I used to be on the fence about whether or not to believe in ghosts too, until I saw an episode or two of those cheesy 'paranormal investigation' type shows. Once I saw that the people claiming to be the world's most foremost supernatural experts were just a random group of out-of-shape Ghostbuster wannabes, I concluded anyone siding with them must be insane.

I still think that it is technically possible for ghosts to exist, because you can never really prove something to be impossible, but it's just too unlikely for me to believe in.

 

[The Heik]

A simple enough question: who here believes in ghosts, and why? I am asking because after turning on the Discovery Channel, I was disappointed to find they were playing a show about a bunch of guys with digital cameras and emf meters running around an empty building, jumping at their own shadows.

Personally, no, I don't believe ghosts exist. I'm not saying it's impossible that they exist, I just don't think they do. My reasons for thinking this are simple: there isn't any credible evidence. Sure, you've got plenty of 'video proof' of poor quality videos that show a flickering shadow that vaguely looks like a person, but nothing even remotely solid.

Also, the way they use those EMF meters to supposedly prove that ghosts exist is bullcrap. I know from my brother, who has used those during a McGill University course, that these things are so sensitive they will light up for just about anything. You could accidentally point it a a light socket and it will go off.

Anyway, that's just my opinion, so what about all of yours? Are you a believer or not? For what reason? Do you think you've personally ever seen a ghost?

Well scientists have proven that when someone finally dies that something ethereal physically leaves the human body, so ghosts could potentially exist. Haven't experienced one myself, though.

 

[Gizmo]

I do sometimes and then sometimes I don't it just depends on the situation and if I can explain it using logic. But i'm just about 100% sure my house is haunted, weird shit goes down all the time.

 

[GodofDisaster]

Well last summer, when I stayed at a hotel in Derry for my aunts wedding. I experienced quite a scary phenomenal. Which involved a bust, that managed to turn it's head towards me, when I was sleeping. The head was facing left before, but when I woke up it was facing right.

So yeah I do believe in ghosts.

 

[King of the Sandbox]

Well scientists have proven that when someone finally dies that something ethereal physically leaves the human body, so ghosts could potentially exist.

Source?

 

[Roganwilson]

I do not believe in ghosts. No real reason why to believe in them, but no reason not to. I suppose I am rather apathetic to the idea.

 

[Zorg Machine]

I accept that there may be some kind of spirit thing.
The "ghosthunters" shows though...that shit is bonkers.

 

[klakkat]

I don't believe in ghosts. While, being agnostic, I accept the possibility of ghosts, I have never encountered any, and have no reason to believe they physically can exist (remember, *belief* here... I can believe whatever I want just as you can...).

However, I've known a lot of people who do believe in ghosts, but aren't particularly religious. Some of them (my parents) claim I've interacted with a ghost before on multiple occasions (while I was far too young to actually remember, of course).

Also, since this was mentioned above, we aren't 3 dimensional beings. We're 4 dimensional beings. Remember, TIME is a time/space dimension too, and physically indistinguishable from the traditional 3 dimensions (I'm sure I've said this a couple hundred times in this forum, so sorry if it feels redundant, but I am a physicist...).

Well scientists have proven that when someone finally dies that something ethereal physically leaves the human body, so ghosts could potentially exist.

I am EXTREMELY curious as to what 'scientists' published this study. Please, do send me a link to the study itself, or just the names of the 'scientists' involved.

Particularly since 'Ethereal' is a bullshit word unless you happen to be a chemist or chemical engineer (I've known both) in which case you might actually have to deal with a substance known as 'ether' which is best described on Wiki, as I'm not a chemist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ether

 

[Pegghead]

When I was younger I had an intense fascination with all things supernatural and it's kind of stuck with me through the ages.

I'd like to think that the stories are true about ghosts, and that the woman in white I saw on that fabled night was not just a conjuration of my darkest imagination.

 

[Rancid0ffspring]

There is no credible evidence for their existence, so I have no reason to believe in them.

We don't know where we go after we die so ghosts may just be spirits returning from the afterlife for a few brief moments. Who knows?

When we die, we end. That is all that happens.

To quote our loud friend Samual L. Jackson The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Ghost cookie for the ref

I'm not sure which of my points you answered, but I'll respond to both.

1: Why should I believe something that I have no reason to believe? Try this:

There is, at a subatomic level, a vast civilisation of 4-dimensional elephants. It's just too small for us too see with our technology. Believe it.

2: All we are when we are alive is electrical brain activity that believes itself to be alive. When we die, this activity stops. How can we be anything if we have nothing to 'be' in.

That's hard for me to understand, reading it to myself. Good luck.

It was more so aimed at your first point sorry to cause confusion, I'm very tired & have a cold & it was around 5 when I quoted you. What i'm saying is just because you can't prove something does exist it doesn't mean that it doesn't.

I fully respect that some people do need physical evidence to believe something or do find the notion of spirits either ridiculous or impossible. What I believe though is that there is a big ol' universe with many things we have not & never will encounter.

Never know those 4th dimensional Elephants could be laughing at us right now. I'll try respond to your second point later but now I must rush to work... oh joy

 

[klakkat]

There is no credible evidence for their existence, so I have no reason to believe in them.

We don't know where we go after we die so ghosts may just be spirits returning from the afterlife for a few brief moments. Who knows?

When we die, we end. That is all that happens.

To quote our loud friend Samual L. Jackson The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Ghost cookie for the ref

Boondocks. Though the character's name eludes me at the moment (Eddie's friend. Ironically, a white guy voiced by Samuel L. Jackson).

 

[Skeleon]

Nope, I don't believe in ghosts.
Every weird or spooky occurence I encountered so far turned out to be either very silly or simple to explain.

 

[EeveeElectro]

I do, I haven't seen one but I don't want to.

However, I think it's mainly mid tricks. If you TELL someone you're in a haunted house, straight away, they'll start to feel creeped out because this is what is implanted in their head, they'll notice every creek and noise. They'll expect something to happen and be on the lookout.

If you took someone to a haunted house and didn't tell them it was overrun by ghosts, I doubt they'd notice. Sometimes you walk into one and just know, some people can feel it.

 

[ThePreshFrince]

if they exist, they better look like this.

else my childhood has been for nothing.

 

[ThePreshFrince]

I do, I haven't seen one but I don't want to.

However, I think it's mainly mid tricks. If you TELL someone you're in a haunted house, straight away, they'll start to feel creeped out because this is what is implanted in their head, they'll notice every creek and noise. They'll expect something to happen and be on the lookout.

If you took someone to a haunted house and didn't tell them it was overrun by ghosts, I doubt they'd notice. Sometimes you walk into one and just know, some people can feel it.

this times a billion by the way. your mind can play so many tricks on you. sensory deprivation tanks fuck with you so hard, you're basically dreaming with your eyes open.

 

[EeveeElectro]

I do, I haven't seen one but I don't want to.

However, I think it's mainly mid tricks. If you TELL someone you're in a haunted house, straight away, they'll start to feel creeped out because this is what is implanted in their head, they'll notice every creek and noise. They'll expect something to happen and be on the lookout.

If you took someone to a haunted house and didn't tell them it was overrun by ghosts, I doubt they'd notice. Sometimes you walk into one and just know, some people can feel it.

this times a billion by the way. your mind can play so many tricks on you. sensory deprivation tanks fuck with you so hard, you're basically dreaming with your eyes open.

There's a show called Body language secrets, last week they got two people to taste two wines which were exactly the same but in different bottles. They lied about both, saying one was £40, matured for 25 years and incredibly rare and said the second one was about £4, maid in a factory and was made in millions.
They both thought the first wine tasted better and more expensive, despite them being the same.
It's funny how easily people believe things.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

Not a blind believer, but until I see conclusive proof one way or the other, I will continue to believe that 'there are more things in Heaven and Hell than are dreamt of in your philosophy.'

 

[PurePareidolia]

No conclusive evidence, no hypothesis behind how they work, and the make no sense if you think about it: so they collide with the ground, but not walls? They only reflect light to cameras? they haunt where they died, even though at the rate Earth is moving, that place is nowhere near where it's current earthly location would be...

Not to mention no proof of a soul existing at all

so no, I don't believe in ghosts

Not a blind believer, but until I see conclusive proof one way or the other, I will continue to believe that 'there are more things in Heaven and Hell than are dreamt of in your philosophy.'

That just really made me think of this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_htqDCP-s]

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

Not a blind believer, but until I see conclusive proof one way or the other, I will continue to believe that 'there are more things in Heaven and Hell than are dreamt of in your philosophy.'

That just really made me think of this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_htqDCP-s]

Gotta love Tim Minchin, but if I met that guy at a party I would be deliberately doing the hippy thing in order to wind up his pompous, close minded arse. I hate people like that just as much as I hate religious fundamentalists.

 

[notyouraveragejoe]

I like to believe in Ghosts for the supernatural aspect of it all. I love everything Supernatural and as such I have to love the idea of Ghosts. Furthermore it would make life more interesting if Ghosts did exist. Also the argument doesn't really have a lot going for it nor going against it and as such I'm unwilling to say that it doesn't exist in certainty.