Eidos: Deus Ex Not Copying Assassin's Creed 2 or BioShock

[Smooth Operator]

Ah the infinity of human stupidity...
I do hope they deliver a proper Deus Ex this time, not another abortion of a game that DE2 was.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

The only game Human Revolutions has to worry about being compared to is the original Deus Ex.

The other comparisons sound like the sort of shitdribble you get from people who insist Warhammer 40k is a rip off of Starcraft.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

If I read that right, I should be really excited for Epic Mickey, because Warren Spector is making that.

Yes, you should be.

 

[Dr Bob]

I've seen people say that Deus Ex: Human Revolution is like Assassin's Creed II because of the twin-blade takedowns.

Also, that it looks like Metal Gear.

 

[SonicWaffle]

It's not hard to see why Jacques-Belletête is so frustrated. The comparisons between Human Revolution and BioShock must be annoying, but they at least make a certain amount of sense, if the people making them are unfamiliar with the original Deus Ex games. But to say Human Revolution is copying Assassin's Creed 2 because the games have a vaguely similar look in places is one heck of a stretch, and must be maddening for the artists involved.

Ha, welcome to the world of nerds. "X is ripping off Y!". We seem incapable of realising that just because a popular thing we enjoyed had certain elements, they did not create them.

My favourite example was when some Harry Potter fan accused Terry Pratchett of ripping off JK Rowling because his novel The Colour of Magic featured a magical school for wizards. Ignoring entirely just how often that trope pops up, TCoM was released in the late eighties!

 

[SonicWaffle]

Can I still compare it to System Shock?

Shall I compare thee to a summers day?

 

[Missing SHODAN]

Wait, people have been complaining that Deus Ex is ripping off Bioshock? Who has been saying this? People too young to have heard of System Shock?

 

[AngryLawnNinja]

I've got to say I'm very surprised at remarks like that. I mean come on people! Just because someone makes a narrative based shooter (a good idea IMO) does not mean that he is copying others that have had success in that genre, and as for the AC2 remark I really fail to see how a marginally similar setting constitutes plagiarism. BTW, am I the only one that found AC2 to be rather bland and underwhelming? As a matter of fact, the story and overall narrative didnt even catch my attention enough to finish it. (I also got tired of tedious rescue missions and all that running back and forth)I did find all the conspiracy stuff pretty well done. L

Anyways, greatly looking forward to DE:HR, if the trailer is any indication of the power behind the narrative then we should all be in for a ride.
Cheers!

 

[Iscin]

I think a lot of this comes from modern or "console only" gamers who NEVER experienced the original classics that were on the PC in the 90s and early 2000s. They think that "Ooh wow, we can haz HD nao?" is like some sort of revolution for the entirety of gaming; when it is in fact NOT.

Almost ALL of the new "innovations" coming to consoles, from online multiplayer to physics engines and new storyline branching were first pioneered on desktop computer gaming. It is just you never saw all of that and are only just now experiencing it as consoles become more advanced.

Sigh...

I love my console gamers, but seriously, get a clue.

 

[AngelicSven]

I agree with his points on Bioshock, even though it's still a fantastic game.
But "Even System Shock"? That should be "IS System Shock."

Hopefully, the new Deus Ex doesn't blow up in his face.

 

[Irridium]

Agreed on Bioshock's praise.

That game fell apart after the climax. After that, it turned into just another damn shooter.

 

[cerebus23]

The only game Human Revolutions has to worry about being compared to is the original Deus Ex.

The other comparisons sound like the sort of shitdribble you get from people who insist Warhammer 40k is a rip off of Starcraft.

^this the biggest hurtle this deus ex has to worry about about is the hurtle that all of us that hold the first deus ex as one of the best games ever made and this game has to measure up to that bearing its name.

of course there are younger players that may have never played the original and then you run unto the people that insist this is ripping off bs and ac etc.

 

[Blind Sight]

Wow, people didn't get the symbolism of the Renaissance in the trailer? It's obviously meant to portray the futuristic period Deus Ex 3 is set in as one of innovation and great change, whether good or bad, basically making it a 'second Renaissance.' Honestly, it's not even that deep.

I seem to have liked Bioshock for a completely different reason then he said, I was more focused on how they took a very complicated subject, Ayn Rand's Objectivism, and managed to still use it as an excellent philosophical background without dumbing it down too much. Say what you want about Bioshock, but there's not a lot of games that are able to intergrade an entire philosophy into its story (case in point: the entire game's theme seems to be 'a man chooses, a slave obeys' one of the pillars of Objectivist philosophy). I eagerly await the Michel Foucault FPS.

 

[The Youth Counselor]

I think a lot of this comes from modern or "console only" gamers who NEVER experienced the original classics that were on the PC in the 90s and early 2000s. They think that "Ooh wow, we can haz HD nao?" is like some sort of revolution for the entirety of gaming; when it is in fact NOT.

Almost ALL of the new "innovations" coming to consoles, from online multiplayer to physics engines and new storyline branching were first pioneered on desktop computer gaming. It is just you never saw all of that and are only just now experiencing it as consoles become more advanced.

Sigh...

I love my console gamers, but seriously, get a clue.

Although I would take most opportunities to scoff and belittle the primitive console barbarians and raise the status of our enlightened PC gamer master race, I must point out that the original Deus Ex was also ported to the PS2. There it sold relatively well and received universal acclaim.

Most of my friends who loved Deus Ex happen to be primitives who experienced it on a PS2 and crude television.

IW was developed for both the PC and Xbox, and optimized for the latter. That killed it.

 

[Velvet Cyberpunk]

I can remember when BioShock came out and people at another forum I frequent were all slobbering all over themselves about it saying how innovative it was. When I mentioned System Shock they didn't know what I was talking about. Sad... Also wasn't Warren Spector on the System Shock 2 team? I believe he was. Really Deus Ex just took the SS game play one step further.

 

[Iscin]

I think a lot of this comes from modern or "console only" gamers who NEVER experienced the original classics that were on the PC in the 90s and early 2000s. They think that "Ooh wow, we can haz HD nao?" is like some sort of revolution for the entirety of gaming; when it is in fact NOT.

Almost ALL of the new "innovations" coming to consoles, from online multiplayer to physics engines and new storyline branching were first pioneered on desktop computer gaming. It is just you never saw all of that and are only just now experiencing it as consoles become more advanced.

Sigh...

I love my console gamers, but seriously, get a clue.

Although I would take most opportunities to scoff and belittle the primitive console barbarians and raise the status of our enlightened PC gamer master race, I must point out that the original Deus Ex was also ported to the PS2. There it sold relatively well and received universal acclaim.

Most of my friends who loved Deus Ex happen to be primitives who experienced it on a PS2 and crude television.

IW was developed for both the PC and Xbox, and optimized for the latter. That killed it.

I am aware that Deus Ex was ported, with pre-rendered cutscenes no less, but I was talking generally

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

Well, Deus Ex was here first, so bioshock kinda owes THEM. And BTW AC II is completely different to Deus Ex.

I love that word though
Deus Ex, Deus Ex, Deus EX, Deeeeeuuuuuussssss Eeeeeeeexxxxxxx..........