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Abomination said:
Politrukk said:
That still sounds like a lame excuse to me.
I'm sorry but one of the DLC's is a haircut for Geralt? really why is that not in the main-game.
I'm getting really tired of developers coming up with all sorts of excuses to validate day-one/month-one DLC.
The only good thing about this is that CD-Projekt isn't actually making you pay for it.
A lame excuse for what? It's not an excuse, it's the REASON they're doing it. A sure-fire way to give benefit to those who legitimately purchased the game.

There is going to be some paid DLC but it was announced as being more akin to Expansion Packs of old, such as a whole new zone (zones in Witcher III are fucking huge).

They don't need to excuse themselves from anything. As it stands the game is massive, a complete blast, I've put about 70 hours into it and I'm not even close to finished. I don't even think I've got to the island where the latest DLC is applied to. If the game didn't have the DLC it'd still be great.

Also, it's free.

Edit: Just noticed something on the Steam store, due to this DLC the Witcher III now holds the top THREE spots on the Popular New Releases tab. I imagine because the DLC is free it's considered to be just the game and a ton of people have just downloaded it.

I can't say with certainty if CD Projekt intended this because it's definitely a bug with Steam but it is certainly more publicity for them (not like they needed any more).
Doesn't mean it can't look like a publicity stunt to me and according to your edit it's bloody damn well working
 

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Politrukk said:
Abomination said:
Politrukk said:
That still sounds like a lame excuse to me.
I'm sorry but one of the DLC's is a haircut for Geralt? really why is that not in the main-game.
I'm getting really tired of developers coming up with all sorts of excuses to validate day-one/month-one DLC.
The only good thing about this is that CD-Projekt isn't actually making you pay for it.
A lame excuse for what? It's not an excuse, it's the REASON they're doing it. A sure-fire way to give benefit to those who legitimately purchased the game.

There is going to be some paid DLC but it was announced as being more akin to Expansion Packs of old, such as a whole new zone (zones in Witcher III are fucking huge).

They don't need to excuse themselves from anything. As it stands the game is massive, a complete blast, I've put about 70 hours into it and I'm not even close to finished. I don't even think I've got to the island where the latest DLC is applied to. If the game didn't have the DLC it'd still be great.

Also, it's free.

Edit: Just noticed something on the Steam store, due to this DLC the Witcher III now holds the top THREE spots on the Popular New Releases tab. I imagine because the DLC is free it's considered to be just the game and a ton of people have just downloaded it.

I can't say with certainty if CD Projekt intended this because it's definitely a bug with Steam but it is certainly more publicity for them (not like they needed any more).
Doesn't mean it can't look like a publicity stunt to me and according to your edit it's bloody damn well working
I would ask as to why you feel the need to complain about something so insignificant and non-controversial, but I understand, at the same time, that some people simply thrive off of drama and stirring up controversy. Just as long as you are posting your opinion on a fora thread that will be forgotten about soon, then all is good.
 

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Abomination said:
Politrukk said:
12 pieces of DLC?

for free?

Sorry but that sounds like a marketing scheme that could easily turn into 12 paid dlc's (like it did with the total war games).

I mean if you're going to push these things for free they could have been included in the base game...
As far as I know this is simply a way for CD Projekt to reward people who actually purchased the game and make piracy that much more difficult to access 100% content. Because having to re-crack the game again and again to add the constant DLC or require folk to download whole "fully cracked" versions again and again makes buying the game more worthwhile.

So it's rewarding customers and punishing pirates rather than punishing customers and rewarding pirates that other companies employ.
Actually, due to no DRM, I believe Witcher 3 doesn't even require a crack. The game doesn't seem to be protected at all from what I've heard.
 

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Politrukk said:
12 pieces of DLC?

for free?

Sorry but that sounds like a marketing scheme that could easily turn into 12 paid dlc's (like it did with the total war games).

I mean if you're going to push these things for free they could have been included in the base game...
Not if they were developed after the base game went gold. Also, CD Projekt stated, numerous times, that they consider everything less than a full-on expansion pack not being worth the money, thus the free DLC.
 

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Vrach said:
Actually, due to no DRM, I believe Witcher 3 doesn't even require a crack. The game doesn't seem to be protected at all from what I've heard.
It's even happened that CD Projekt people have popped into pre-load torrents to mention how to get the Day one patch once the game launched.
 

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Actually, due to no DRM, I believe Witcher 3 doesn't even require a crack. The game doesn't seem to be protected at all from what I've heard.
True, even the Steam version is completely DRM free.
I do think the free DLC is a publicity stunt to some extent. The stuff released so far was announced months ago and I think most of it was completed and could have been included in the base game. I still don't see much reason to complain though. It's free and non-essential so have at it, CDPR.
 

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RealRT said:
Politrukk said:
12 pieces of DLC?

for free?

Sorry but that sounds like a marketing scheme that could easily turn into 12 paid dlc's (like it did with the total war games).

I mean if you're going to push these things for free they could have been included in the base game...
Not if they were developed after the base game went gold. Also, CD Projekt stated, numerous times, that they consider everything less than a full-on expansion pack not being worth the money, thus the free DLC.
According to stuff I've read it was pre-developed, so it could have definitely been on-disk.
 

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GarouxBloodline said:
Politrukk said:
Abomination said:
Politrukk said:
That still sounds like a lame excuse to me.
I'm sorry but one of the DLC's is a haircut for Geralt? really why is that not in the main-game.
I'm getting really tired of developers coming up with all sorts of excuses to validate day-one/month-one DLC.
The only good thing about this is that CD-Projekt isn't actually making you pay for it.
A lame excuse for what? It's not an excuse, it's the REASON they're doing it. A sure-fire way to give benefit to those who legitimately purchased the game.

There is going to be some paid DLC but it was announced as being more akin to Expansion Packs of old, such as a whole new zone (zones in Witcher III are fucking huge).

They don't need to excuse themselves from anything. As it stands the game is massive, a complete blast, I've put about 70 hours into it and I'm not even close to finished. I don't even think I've got to the island where the latest DLC is applied to. If the game didn't have the DLC it'd still be great.

Also, it's free.

Edit: Just noticed something on the Steam store, due to this DLC the Witcher III now holds the top THREE spots on the Popular New Releases tab. I imagine because the DLC is free it's considered to be just the game and a ton of people have just downloaded it.

I can't say with certainty if CD Projekt intended this because it's definitely a bug with Steam but it is certainly more publicity for them (not like they needed any more).
Doesn't mean it can't look like a publicity stunt to me and according to your edit it's bloody damn well working
I would ask as to why you feel the need to complain about something so insignificant and non-controversial, but I understand, at the same time, that some people simply thrive off of drama and stirring up controversy. Just as long as you are posting your opinion on a fora thread that will be forgotten about soon, then all is good.
Jaysus you people take more blithing offence to me being annoyed with it looking like a publicity stunt than I originally was annoyed with it myself.
 

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Politrukk said:
RealRT said:
Politrukk said:
12 pieces of DLC?

for free?

Sorry but that sounds like a marketing scheme that could easily turn into 12 paid dlc's (like it did with the total war games).

I mean if you're going to push these things for free they could have been included in the base game...
Not if they were developed after the base game went gold. Also, CD Projekt stated, numerous times, that they consider everything less than a full-on expansion pack not being worth the money, thus the free DLC.
According to stuff I've read it was pre-developed, so it could have definitely been on-disk.
According to stuff I've read the moon is made out of cheese.
Getting the game discs and boxes printed, packed and shipped takes a fuckload of time which the developers can take to make smaller DLC like this. It's not like there's a full-fledged set of misssions here which would be impossible to do during that time. An armor? Not much time. Beards and hairdos? A bit more, but still nothing major. A character model? Please.
 

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RealRT said:
Politrukk said:
RealRT said:
Politrukk said:
12 pieces of DLC?

for free?

Sorry but that sounds like a marketing scheme that could easily turn into 12 paid dlc's (like it did with the total war games).

I mean if you're going to push these things for free they could have been included in the base game...
Not if they were developed after the base game went gold. Also, CD Projekt stated, numerous times, that they consider everything less than a full-on expansion pack not being worth the money, thus the free DLC.
According to stuff I've read it was pre-developed, so it could have definitely been on-disk.
According to stuff I've read the moon is made out of cheese.
Getting the game discs and boxes printed, packed and shipped takes a fuckload of time which the developers can take to make smaller DLC like this. It's not like there's a full-fledged set of misssions here which would be impossible to do during that time. An armor? Not much time. Beards and hairdos? A bit more, but still nothing major. A character model? Please.
Oh caught you in your own trap!
even this initial DLC has a new mission that comes with it.

That should take rather longer shouldn't it?

And they have 12 of these in total mind!

Edit: Oh I would have totally bought it if it was just the one thing, but no it's 12 that they can release week after week for a month which just stinks of a publicity stunt.
It's a good one I'll give them that but it's nothing but a marketing trick either way and it seems to be working because the mindless drones have flocked to their defence already.
 

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Character models and hair do's used to be hidden in games as rewards... now they come as rlease date add ons... :( Times are changing!
 

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Politrukk said:
Jaysus you people take more blithing offence to me being annoyed with it looking like a publicity stunt than I originally was annoyed with it myself.
Most people hate the shit out of day one dlc and having to pay extra for it, including myself who have even boycotted publishers for it.

You on the other hand, are probably the first ever seen to complain about it being free. Thats probably what has people in a bit of a tiff, in case that wasn't apparent...

Unless you are fully aware of that and it was your intention all along to see what people say in reaction, in which case ignore me and carry on as you were
 

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Politrukk said:
RealRT said:
Politrukk said:
RealRT said:
Politrukk said:
12 pieces of DLC?

for free?

Sorry but that sounds like a marketing scheme that could easily turn into 12 paid dlc's (like it did with the total war games).

I mean if you're going to push these things for free they could have been included in the base game...
Not if they were developed after the base game went gold. Also, CD Projekt stated, numerous times, that they consider everything less than a full-on expansion pack not being worth the money, thus the free DLC.
According to stuff I've read it was pre-developed, so it could have definitely been on-disk.
According to stuff I've read the moon is made out of cheese.
Getting the game discs and boxes printed, packed and shipped takes a fuckload of time which the developers can take to make smaller DLC like this. It's not like there's a full-fledged set of misssions here which would be impossible to do during that time. An armor? Not much time. Beards and hairdos? A bit more, but still nothing major. A character model? Please.
Oh caught you in your own trap!
even this initial DLC has a new mission that comes with it.

That should take rather longer shouldn't it?

And they have 12 of these in total mind!

Edit: Oh I would have totally bought it if it was just the one thing, but no it's 12 that they can release week after week for a month which just stinks of a publicity stunt.
It's a good one I'll give them that but it's nothing but a marketing trick either way and it seems to be working because the mindless drones have flocked to their defence already.
People are mindless because they are defending something you dislike? People aren't mindless because they like something you dislike.
 

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Ok, there are two types of DLC, bad DLC where content developed as part of the main game and then put behind a paywall to shake people down for more money if they want to enjoy the full experience, and the good kind that add additional content and flavour around the original story but that doesn't mean people who don't get it have a "lesser" experience.

Now, if I understand correctly, this is certainly the latter, and being given away for free no less. And yet, a bunch of people are still managing to complain about this? People like this make me worry that stupidity might be contagious.
 

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Politrukk said:
RealRT said:
Politrukk said:
RealRT said:
Politrukk said:
12 pieces of DLC?

for free?

Sorry but that sounds like a marketing scheme that could easily turn into 12 paid dlc's (like it did with the total war games).

I mean if you're going to push these things for free they could have been included in the base game...
Not if they were developed after the base game went gold. Also, CD Projekt stated, numerous times, that they consider everything less than a full-on expansion pack not being worth the money, thus the free DLC.
According to stuff I've read it was pre-developed, so it could have definitely been on-disk.
According to stuff I've read the moon is made out of cheese.
Getting the game discs and boxes printed, packed and shipped takes a fuckload of time which the developers can take to make smaller DLC like this. It's not like there's a full-fledged set of misssions here which would be impossible to do during that time. An armor? Not much time. Beards and hairdos? A bit more, but still nothing major. A character model? Please.
Oh caught you in your own trap!
even this initial DLC has a new mission that comes with it.

That should take rather longer shouldn't it?

And they have 12 of these in total mind!

Edit: Oh I would have totally bought it if it was just the one thing, but no it's 12 that they can release week after week for a month which just stinks of a publicity stunt.
It's a good one I'll give them that but it's nothing but a marketing trick either way and it seems to be working because the mindless drones have flocked to their defence already.
Yeah, one mission two weeks after development and how many months after the game went gold? Hell, it might have started development back when game was in QA and it was in QA for a long, long time.

Well, nothing backs your argument better than out of the blue insulting the person you're arguing with! People defend CD Projekt because CD Projekt is one of the few publishers who has been consistently pro-customer with a DRM-free storefront and three great games each of which has had free DLC made for it. And thus they seriously need more love. Unlike the likes of EA, Ubisoft, Activision, Valve and the rest of them who need no defense and some I would like to go THQ, CD Projekt do need defense.
 

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Politrukk said:
GarouxBloodline said:
Politrukk said:
Abomination said:
Politrukk said:
That still sounds like a lame excuse to me.
I'm sorry but one of the DLC's is a haircut for Geralt? really why is that not in the main-game.
I'm getting really tired of developers coming up with all sorts of excuses to validate day-one/month-one DLC.
The only good thing about this is that CD-Projekt isn't actually making you pay for it.
A lame excuse for what? It's not an excuse, it's the REASON they're doing it. A sure-fire way to give benefit to those who legitimately purchased the game.

There is going to be some paid DLC but it was announced as being more akin to Expansion Packs of old, such as a whole new zone (zones in Witcher III are fucking huge).

They don't need to excuse themselves from anything. As it stands the game is massive, a complete blast, I've put about 70 hours into it and I'm not even close to finished. I don't even think I've got to the island where the latest DLC is applied to. If the game didn't have the DLC it'd still be great.

Also, it's free.

Edit: Just noticed something on the Steam store, due to this DLC the Witcher III now holds the top THREE spots on the Popular New Releases tab. I imagine because the DLC is free it's considered to be just the game and a ton of people have just downloaded it.

I can't say with certainty if CD Projekt intended this because it's definitely a bug with Steam but it is certainly more publicity for them (not like they needed any more).
Doesn't mean it can't look like a publicity stunt to me and according to your edit it's bloody damn well working
I would ask as to why you feel the need to complain about something so insignificant and non-controversial, but I understand, at the same time, that some people simply thrive off of drama and stirring up controversy. Just as long as you are posting your opinion on a fora thread that will be forgotten about soon, then all is good.
Jaysus you people take more blithing offence to me being annoyed with it looking like a publicity stunt than I originally was annoyed with it myself.
Please do not mistake my utter neutrality, seen in a comment I made during some free-time before I went into work, as me taking some huge offense at the opinion of some random anonymous person on the Internet. A rather egotistical assumption to make, and I would rather not have the context of my words skewed.

The purpose of my comment, the only purpose, was to invoke a better rationale out of you for further consideration. It is a rather odd perspective, that finds offense, and admits said offense, over receiving, what is, in essence, free of charge DLC. That is, after the base cost of purchasing the game itself, of course.

So instead of getting melodramatically defensive, I was hoping for you to go more in-depth as to why you feel that what they are doing is wrong. Even if this is a publicity stunt, what is inherently wrong with that in your eyes? Especially when it benefits every party involved?
 

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GarouxBloodline said:
Politrukk said:
GarouxBloodline said:
Politrukk said:
Abomination said:
Politrukk said:
That still sounds like a lame excuse to me.
I'm sorry but one of the DLC's is a haircut for Geralt? really why is that not in the main-game.
I'm getting really tired of developers coming up with all sorts of excuses to validate day-one/month-one DLC.
The only good thing about this is that CD-Projekt isn't actually making you pay for it.
A lame excuse for what? It's not an excuse, it's the REASON they're doing it. A sure-fire way to give benefit to those who legitimately purchased the game.

There is going to be some paid DLC but it was announced as being more akin to Expansion Packs of old, such as a whole new zone (zones in Witcher III are fucking huge).

They don't need to excuse themselves from anything. As it stands the game is massive, a complete blast, I've put about 70 hours into it and I'm not even close to finished. I don't even think I've got to the island where the latest DLC is applied to. If the game didn't have the DLC it'd still be great.

Also, it's free.

Edit: Just noticed something on the Steam store, due to this DLC the Witcher III now holds the top THREE spots on the Popular New Releases tab. I imagine because the DLC is free it's considered to be just the game and a ton of people have just downloaded it.

I can't say with certainty if CD Projekt intended this because it's definitely a bug with Steam but it is certainly more publicity for them (not like they needed any more).
Doesn't mean it can't look like a publicity stunt to me and according to your edit it's bloody damn well working
I would ask as to why you feel the need to complain about something so insignificant and non-controversial, but I understand, at the same time, that some people simply thrive off of drama and stirring up controversy. Just as long as you are posting your opinion on a fora thread that will be forgotten about soon, then all is good.
Jaysus you people take more blithing offence to me being annoyed with it looking like a publicity stunt than I originally was annoyed with it myself.
Please do not mistake my utter neutrality, seen in a comment I made during some free-time before I went into work, as me taking some huge offense at the opinion of some random anonymous person on the Internet. A rather egotistical assumption to make, and I would rather not have the context of my words skewed.

The purpose of my comment, the only purpose, was to invoke a better rationale out of you for further consideration. It is a rather odd perspective, that finds offense, and admits said offense, over receiving, what is, in essence, free of charge DLC. That is, after the base cost of purchasing the game itself, of course.

So instead of getting melodramatically defensive, I was hoping for you to go more in-depth as to why you feel that what they are doing is wrong. Even if this is a publicity stunt, what is inherently wrong with that in your eyes? Especially when it benefits every party involved?
I feel that such a practice is still deceiving your customer, it's nowhere near the kind of bad that other companies enact upon their customers, but still it feels like deception to me.

You can sell me the best painting in the world, but if I buy it and 2 minutes later you walk up to me to tell me there actually was a part you cut off but you still want me to have I'll still wonder why you cut it off the main work in the first place.


I'm not saying this company is the devil, just stating I view it as a deception, a smart deception, one that will be lucrative for them, but a deception nonetheless.

And I feel videogames could do without it.

I'd rather have the main-game, patches that fix the main game, full expansion packs that expand upon the main game or employ a new narrative.
And then if all is expended, a sequel.



Edit:

To clarify, I'm not offended by the fact that the DLC is free, but that it exists at all in this form.
 

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JohnnyDelRay said:
Politrukk said:
Jaysus you people take more blithing offence to me being annoyed with it looking like a publicity stunt than I originally was annoyed with it myself.
Most people hate the shit out of day one dlc and having to pay extra for it, including myself who have even boycotted publishers for it.

You on the other hand, are probably the first ever seen to complain about it being free. Thats probably what has people in a bit of a tiff, in case that wasn't apparent...

Unless you are fully aware of that and it was your intention all along to see what people say in reaction, in which case ignore me and carry on as you were
It is not about the fact that it is free, which is what I was trying to clarify in my later comments.
But the apparent deception that comes with this and the way it is used as a marketing tool.

Aside from that it's not so much me taking offense with the practice as finding it an annoyance.
 

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TallanKhan said:
Ok, there are two types of DLC, bad DLC where content developed as part of the main game and then put behind a paywall to shake people down for more money if they want to enjoy the full experience, and the good kind that add additional content and flavour around the original story but that doesn't mean people who don't get it have a "lesser" experience.

Now, if I understand correctly, this is certainly the latter, and being given away for free no less. And yet, a bunch of people are still managing to complain about this? People like this make me worry that stupidity might be contagious.
This is the sort of world companies like EA, Activision, Ubisoft etc. have created. Consumers are so used to being dicked over by shitty dlc that they see any dlc as bad - even if it's free and being released by a fairly benign company like CDPR.

OT: I really need to upgrade my PC, it can barely play Witcher 2 on low settings. I was apprehensive before Witcher 3 was released but the more I hear about it the more it sounds like a must own.
 

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Politrukk said:
I would like to think its more of a spit in the face to all of the other crappy companies forcing paid DLC down our throats.

This is the way DLC is supposed to be, it would be ridiculous to not take advantage of being able to improve your product and making your consumers happy, back in the day we didn't have the bandwidth or even the ability at all to patch cartridges. I do agree it has value for marketing but damn give me some more of that, they can string me along on a bunch of freebies until they have a full blown expansion that will cost money all they want. Get the other big names in gaming to get on this bandwagon, this is the way digital releases are meant to be.

Many of us soured on the very concept of DLC because of how poorly it was rolled out, how it was monetized and essentially became a Sith lord.

Good guy CDPR brings balance to the force it is!