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Earth's Children series -Jaen Auel
His Dark Materials - Phillip Pullman
Last of the Amazons - Steven Pressfield
A Kiss Before Dying - Ira Levin
Nation - Terry Pratchett
Kingslayer Chronicles - Patrick Rothfuss (not the main character, but a pretty big role none-the-less)

Comics:
Fallen Angel - Peter David
 

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Basically any novel by Tamora Pierce, if you're into fantasy. Terry Pratchett's has a fair number of Discworld books with female protagonists (my favorite is Monstrous Regiment). There's also Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials, of course, and An Evil Guest by Gene Wolf is... interesting. I can't speak to the quality, but my younger sister has been obsessing over a series of YA mystery novels about a girl called Sammy Keyes. Of course, there are always writers like Jane Austen. If you want something more serious and socially-minded, Ding Ling is a favorite of mine.

For video games, Monster Tale and Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia are both good choices. Remember Me, which comes out next month, also looks interesting.

In comics and animation, I recommend The Rose of Versaille, Michiko e Hatchin, Revolutionary Girl Utena, and (maybe) Shut Hell. Persepolis is another obvious choice. The 8-bit Theater and Atomic Robo guy is doing a webcomic about a devil-girl cowboy gunslinger over at Nuklearpower.com that's pretty cool. Mobile Police Patlabor has more of an ensemble cast, but most people consider Noa Izumi (who is a woman) to be the main character of everything but the second movie. It's a pretty awesome show about a group of police officers in charge of giant robot crime (it's usually more along the lines of running red lights than trying to destroy the city).

Honestly, I wish I could help you more, but most of my reading lately hasn't been in English, so I can't really recommend the things I've been looking at unless you read Chinese or Japanese.
 

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an annoyed writer said:
soren7550 said:
The Perfect Dark series! Ok, so the games aren't really filled with much story or character development, but the books and the comic series made me fall in love with Miss Dark. She's funny, smart, tough as nails, but still very human. She's suffers greatly after the loss of her father (suffering from Survivor's Guilt), is trying to figure out what to do with her life, and questions herself and her abilities and actions, wondering what it makes her as a person. If you can, track down Perfect Dark: Initial Vector, Perfect Dark: Janus' Tears and Perfect Dark: Second Front as they are most excellent. Also, get the games. You can get Perfect Dark Zero for about $5 USD and that's not bad at all, and you can get the HD remake of Perfect Dark on XBLA for about $10 USD or so.
Ooh, that's another great one! And great cosplay, by the way. Going for the Perfect Dark: Zero look? I personally prefer her original design from the promotional renders that Rare did for the first Perfect Dark, but hey, different folks, different strokes and all that. Still, great character. Great games. Awesome story.
Yeah, I went for the Zero look because:
- Looked easier to do than her original look
- Was way easier to get loads of images of her in her Zero attire than her original getup
- The red hair would make me more distinctive
- Zero was one of the major inspirations that made me want to become a writer, so it seemed fitting to do a Joanna cosplay Zero style
- The sexy bothered my brother, so naturally I had to do it to bother him

Desert Punk said:
Out of interest, did you go to Sakura Con this year? Just wondering if I was there with any other escapists :3
Nah. The only con I've ever been to was NYCC (in 2011 and 2012, and I only wore the Joanna cosplay on Saturday NYCC 2011).
 

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Books

Honor Harrington series by David Weber
Military science fiction, strong female lead, Honor Harrington very well written in general. The first 9 books range from very good to great but take a massive down hill turn after that and the spin offs are mostly lousy, the main exception being The Shadow of Saganami which has some really good supporting female characters.

The first book On Basilisk Station is free on the Amazon Kindle app so check it out.

Games
as far as ones not already mentioned No One Lives Forever.
 

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EstrogenicMuscle said:
Nieroshai said:
Sexuality is human, any attempt to completely ignore our sexual dimorphism in gaming is dishonest to our species.
I get the feeling we have very different ideas of what counts as sexualization and what counts as sexual dimorphism. I don't consider those macho save the girl guys to be sexualized at all. And by sexualized, I mean made into sexual objects. That is, I'm less interested in entertainment that treats the female characters like a piece of meat to entice people. I'm not interested in seeing bouncing breasts, I want to enjoy their minds.

It isn't that I'm against the sexualization of female characters ever. But I'm getting a bit sick of all of it. And it usually detracts from the females being portrayed as well rounded characters. I very much want to see characters have their own sexuality. It is a huge focus on their bodies being sexualized that I am getting a little bit tired of. Sexualized as in those comic books that spend several pages giving a close up on a woman's butt or something like that. That I tire of a little bit.

But I'd prefer not go get into another argument about this subject here.
Asking for a non-sexualized female character is like asking for a non-sexualized male character. Throw out the macho, discount instancess of rescuing women and other masculine fantasies, and throw out every installment where the hero gets the girl.

My list of games with strong male characters who are not sexualized or bound to typical gender roles:
Sam Fisher, Jackie Estacado, Harry Mason, Alex Shepherd, Gordon Freeman, Connor Kenway, and that's pretty much it. In my entire collection. Which is extensive.

Now for the games starring strong female characters who, like in REAL LIFE, are good characters WHETHER THEY ARE SEXUALIZED AND FEMININE OR NOT:
Samus Aran, Lara Croft, Jill Valentine, Claire Redfield, Meryl Silverburgh, Nariko, Heather Mason, Alex Roivas, Terra, Chell, Faith, Mara Jade, Rosella from King's Quest series.

And these are simply from my personal collection, of course, and do not include games in which said protagonist is a side character or result of a pre-game gender choice.
FIXED!!!
You ignore the REST of my post, that MAKES my point, and you call me out. Did I mention ONCE, fucking ONCE, that I am for the objectification of women? Did I not take time to list strong, independent characters worth following? No, I said that sexuality is human. I pointed out great characters, portrayed in a normal manner, whose main central characteristic is NOT objectification of their bodies. You can go ahead and find pleasure in the mind of a fictional character being progressive. I'm going to go enjoy a story, as the medium is intended.
 

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Eliwood10 said:
Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Buffy the Vampire Slayer! BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER!!

It's one of the greatest TV shows ever made and is universally praised for it's strong, not-hypersexualized female protagonist.
Universally? I'm thinking of a certain "The Princess Bride" meme here, though you only said that once.

ChristopherT said:
Stephanie Brown - As Batgirl at least, cause I haven't read much of her other than that. As a bat, they're never really sexualized, 'cept Dick. She's one of those character's that screws up, picks themselves up, laughs it off, and keeps fighting. She has her weaknesses, she's not just a bruiser. When of her biggest weaknesses is bat on her chest, from it getting her into more trouble than she may be able to handle, to it getting into her head, and thinking she doesn't deserve the bat mantle, to her gaining confidence from the symbol, with determination and a smile.
Yeah...Cassandra Cain as Batgirl was "better", but I found Brown to be more enjoyable. Very formulaic and lightweight, but it'd a decent formula which entertains if you don't expect much of anything from it.
 

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Okay,
Books--
The Dragonriders of Pern & the Harper Hall trilogy by Anne McCaffrey
Promises to Keep by Charles De Lint (If you like Promises to Keep, De Lint has a slew of other books/short stories centered around Jilly Coppercorn.)
The Dreaming Place {novella} by Charles De Lint
Jack of Kinrowan by Charles De Lint
(I'm starting to see a pattern here....)

Anime--
Kaleido Star
Haibane Renmei
Sugar the Little Snow Fairy (it is for all ages--it's about the relationships between children & the people who take care of them)
Tsukikage Ran, Carried by the Wind
Princess Nine
Someday's Dreamers
Slayers
Magic Knight Rayearth
ARIA
These last two might me considered borderline on the sexualization of the protagonists---but
Bubblegum Crisis/Crash (OVA's)
You're Under Arrest!

Comics--
The new Amethyst (Technically "Sword of Sorcery, starring Amethyst") has been pretty decent so far.
Chris Claremeont's run on X-Men/New Mutants (Groundbreaking for female comics characters at the time).
 

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Iain M Banks novels, specifically his Culture books. These books form an extended Universe in which they are set.

Surface Detail has the main character as a female seeking revenge. It also has a female character with an adjoining story arc who has made herself gender neutral.

Excession has a major female player, though she is ditzy she has power despite it. I don't really know how to explain this character, it won't be what you expect. All the main characters in this book are AI though, so this probably isn't the best to start with.

Matter has a female lead who is, in effect, a super spy/soldier. This isn't teen fiction though. I would say realistic but this is sci fi, so I suppose what I mean is that these books are written very much with realism in mind.

A Player of Games has a male lead who has not, and refuses to, change his sex at any point in his life. This makes him, if not a freak (Culture citizens are too polite for that), a definite oddity.
hey off topic but as a banks fan just thought I would say, did you hear that he is dying?
doctors said he has about a year left due to an aggressive cancer :(
 

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Bayonetta? Alright maybe that's not the strongest plot, but she's definitely a strong female protagonist despite (or even because of) her sexuality. There's no reason that women have to emulate men in order to be respectable, which is sort of where our current mindset about female characters is at.

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BrotherRool said:
Kim Possible! It's harder to find a better protagonist, and unlike almost any of the cartoons I watched as a child, I found I could still watch Kim Possible today and still enjoy it.
From the looks of it Kim Possible just seemed like a blend of 'girl power' and 'if you try hard and believe in yourself you can do anything' type of protagonist so I avoided it. How far off was I?
She's a girl who is physically very capable, but it's never in your face about the whole "girl power" thing. And there's almost zero "you have to believe in yourself" involved. Each episode's actually kind of pulp style adventure mixed with a normal teenage life B story that may or may not have anything to do with each other.
 

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Chemical Alia said:
I have a thing for reading old Nancy Drew books. They're just so fun.
Or, for that matter, Nancy Drew games. Nancy's a great lead who makes smart decisions and occasionally yanks epic badassery out when required (so you've walked into a room with the words "DIE" smeared on the mirror in lipstick and a terrifying recording jabbering about a bomb... OF COURSE you're going to disarm it yourself. What else would you do?).

And her friends on the phone allow for fun and normal sounding banter on the phone.

And the female characters around her are mostly pretty realistic and interesting... sometimes they're even the villain.

Seriously, if you want "complete gender equality gaming", or books for that matter, Nancy Drew is your girl.

EDIT: More.

Have you read A Series Of Unfortunate Events? Two of the main characters are female, one's a resourceful inventor and the other's a resourceful infant. It's a great (if rather dark) children's series.

Also noteworthy is that one of the only competent adults in the entire series (seen in the last three books) is also female, as well as female villains appearing just as often as male villains.
 

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thaluikhain said:
Yeah...Cassandra Cain as Batgirl was "better", but I found Brown to be more enjoyable. Very formulaic and lightweight, but it'd a decent formula which entertains if you don't expect much of anything from it.
I just haven't read any Cassandra, I've meant to. I'm fairly new to Batman comics, found Steph fun, jumped in with her books, and just finished them earlier this year. I've tried getting into Cass but I've found I don't really like the art style of her Batgirl run. I haven't written her off, just haven't gotten to her yet.

OT: Hotwire from Radical comics. Short series about technology becoming wide spread enough that extra static in the air becomes a problem and ghosts emerge from the static, mostly harmless, other than ones that go crazy, enter the exorcist code name Hotwire. She's hated by the police, cause she's weird, she's an outsider, and it sucks, but she pushes on, endures. And kicks non corporeal ass. In her spare time, she also plays video games.
 

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ChristopherT said:
thaluikhain said:
Yeah...Cassandra Cain as Batgirl was "better", but I found Brown to be more enjoyable. Very formulaic and lightweight, but it'd a decent formula which entertains if you don't expect much of anything from it.
I just haven't read any Cassandra, I've meant to. I'm fairly new to Batman comics, found Steph fun, jumped in with her books, and just finished them earlier this year. I've tried getting into Cass but I've found I don't really like the art style of her Batgirl run. I haven't written her off, just haven't gotten to her yet.
Well, whereas Brown is your usual ditzy teen misfit, Cain is very dark and serious and much heavier going, and harder to get into. Also, a lot more of her stuff was in crossovers with other bat-family people, while most of Brown's story happened in her own issues.
 

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Leaving out certain obvious choices like Disney princesses, and anime fanservice stuff.

Anime:

Serial Experiments Lain
Vision of Escaflowne
Howl's Moving Castle
Spirited Away
Princess Mononoke
Kiki's Delivery Service
My Neighbor Totoro
His and Her Circumstances
Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water
Ghost in the Shell
Paprika
Perfect Blue

Movies:

Frida
Welcome to the Dollhouse
Terminator 1 and 2
Alien 1 and 2
Fargo
Labyrinth
Carrie
Lilja-4-Ever
Fucking Amal
The Secret of NIMH
Return to Oz
 

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Okay, I can't add a whole lot to this list, but for books I'd throw in Terry Pratchett's Monstrous Regiment, Lynn Flewelling's The Bone Doll's Twin and Hidden Warrior, and the Liveship Traders trilogy by Robin Hobb.

For video games, all I can think to add is that technically Okami Amaterasu is a sun goddess, so, Okami is a good one.
 

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Well I've tried the FUSE demo today and it's got two female protagonist. I was skeptical because I really liked the original premise before EA tampering, but I found the demo enjoyable and potentially playing as 4 characters at the same time quite novel. All things considered I have faith in Insomniac's abilities to really do these characters justice.
 

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I normally find female characters significantly more interesting, here are some series that feature some really good ones:

Spice and Wolf - Anime/book/manga - Co-main protagonist
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya - Anime/book/manga - 3/5 of main cast
Mardock Scramble - Anime/book/manga - Main character
Puella Magi Madoka Magica - Anime/manga - All female main cast
Ghost in the Shell - Anime/manga - Main character
K-On! - Anime/manga - All female main cast
Angel Beats! - Anime - Half of main cast
Code Geass - Anime - Several main characters
Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood - Anime - Several main characters
Elfen Lied - Anime/manga - Most cast members (occasional pointless fan service)
Valkyria Chronicles - Game - Half of main cast
Fire Emblem Awakening - Game - Half of main cast
Night Watch Saga - Book - Several main characters
The Black Magician Trilogy - Book - Main character and several others
The Traitor Spy Trilogy (set in same world as the above) - Book - One of the main characters and several others
Tomb Raider 2013 - Game - Main character
Bioshock Infinite - Game - Co-main character
Mass Effect Trilogy - Game - Half of main cast
Dragon Age:Origins and 2 - Game - Half of main cast
To the Moon - Game - Co-main character
Katawa Shoujo - Visual Novel - Majority of cast
Neon Genesis Evangelion - Anime/manga - Half of main cast
Blood+ - Anime - Main character
A Song of Ice and Fire - Book/TV - Several main characters

Despite their many flaws, the Halo and Gears of War novels contain some very good female characters.

I can think of many games with decent female characters, just not many with them being the main ones.

I will edit as and when I come up with more, but I am at work right now.
 

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Games

Enslaved: Odyssey to the West - what little i've played of this, the characters are supposed to be the best thing about it especially between the two protagonists Monkey and Trip

honorable mention to the Mass Effect series - cuz although it IS a character customization, it is one of the better ones out there

shows

sanctuary
fringe
alcatraz
body of proof
Castle

anime
Howl's Moving Castle - and pretty much anything else from studio ghibli, they are held in high regard for a reason

Birdy the Mighty Decode

Blood+

Fullmetal Alchemist series - both series and sacred star of milos have good characterisation of secondary characters

Ghost in the Shell - specifically the Stand Alone Complex series

Girls und Panzer - not sure if you would really call that GOOD characterisation, but i managed to get through it without bashing my brains in and genuinely enjoyed the show

Spice and Wolf - Practically the definition of 'don't judge a book by its cover' (pun intended), once you get passed the first impression of 'man with fox girl' you'll find that its actually an exposition heavy story, its charm being the banter between Holo and Lawrence, I can't tell you how high I recommend this one, go get it and watch it/read it, you won't regret it

the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

Psycho Pass - set in a future where it is possible to instantaneously measure a person's mental state, personality, and the probability that a person will commit crimes, all through a device installed on each citizen's body called a 'Psycho-Pass'. When this probability, measured by the "Crime Coefficient" index, is too high in an individual, they are pursued and apprehended?with lethal force, if necessary. The story follows Miss Akane Tsunemori who is a new Inspector within Unit One of the 'Public Safety Bureau's Criminal Investigation Division', her job being to hunt down criminals and latent criminals (people whose crime coefficient is deemed too high, and without chance of recovery). As an Inspector, she commands a special group of latent criminals that are called Enforcers. I've only just started watching this series and it is quite intense and strong in its themes, giving me a ghost in the shell vibe.
 

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matthew_lane said:
Seriously, of all the threads to start an argument in, why this one? Regardless of whether or not everything they said was entirely accurate, the point of the thread is to help them discover some good fiction with decent female characters. The thread is harmless and not trying to stir up trouble so why go down this route?

While you occasionally make valid points against the more extreme "feminists", it is getting significantly harder to see you as any different from the handful of "Femi-Nazis" on this site who do the same thing but on the opposite side.

Perhaps you don't care how you come across as you see yourself as in the right, and believe the ends justifies the means, but starting arguments out of nothing is not winning anybody over to your line of thinking.

All it is doing is giving credibility to those on this site who will try and use you as an example of why there women have problems in gaming. Again, perhaps that doesn't bother you, but unless you are just trying to vent, there is nothing to gain by being needlessly aggressive and picking up on minor issues for no obvious reason.

It just makes the more polite and reasonable people look bad, and damages any valid points that you make, as people dismiss them due to the other things that you say, or how you say them.
 

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As far as the broader discussion going on here is concerned, I'm pretty much in line with matthew_lane above. In particular I feel that female protagonists are only somewhat uncommon in videogames, not in entertainment in general. I also concur that the Bechdel Test is a totally discredited irrelevance.

That being said, my arguments have already been made for me, so I'll just drop some examples of what I think the OP might want and move on to other pastures.

Books:
Shira Calpurnia - Crossfire* (Don't get the omnibus, I'll explain later)
Ulrika the Vampire, Bloodborn, Bloodforged, Bloodsworn (I despise vampire novels, but I like this trilogy)

Games:
Odin Sphere (There are two male characters to get through)

Anime:
Kotoura-san
Claymore (Sometimes has to share primacy with male hanger-on)

Not a very comprehensive list, I know. Just off the top of my head.

(* You can see what the author wanted to do with the second novel, but his execution of it is genuinely dreadful. The third novel is alright, but getting its themes and much of her thinking depend on you having read the second novel. My opinion is that it's not worth the struggle.)