equality and discrimination, an overlooked group
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I would say one of the reasons is, America and other parts of the world are trying to stop you from smoking, while most parts of the world aren't trying to stop people from being muslims. To appear as not supportive of peoples smoking habits government own facilities such as most airports don't allow you to smoke.
Discriminated against?
We are not being discriminated against.
Even though the dangers of second hand smoke to be incredibly over blown, and most people should mind their own goddamn business, saying smokers are a persecuted group is ridiculous.
It is our choice, and nobody has to make accommodations for us. If you do not wish for us to smoke in your home, car, or place of business, most of us will happily respect that.
The only thing that crosses the line is when people come up to me (and other smokers) in the streets and give us shit. Pull that, and don't complain when you get a cigarette butt put out in your eye, and believe me, there are those of us who will do it.
We are not being discriminated against.
Even though the dangers of second hand smoke to be incredibly over blown, and most people should mind their own goddamn business, saying smokers are a persecuted group is ridiculous.
It is our choice, and nobody has to make accommodations for us. If you do not wish for us to smoke in your home, car, or place of business, most of us will happily respect that.
The only thing that crosses the line is when people come up to me (and other smokers) in the streets and give us shit. Pull that, and don't complain when you get a cigarette butt put out in your eye, and believe me, there are those of us who will do it.
Worse ways to kill yourself and friends than smoking, but not pleasant ether. If they really don't give a fuck, then smoke your goddamn brains out. If you just couldn't say no, then you deserve your faith and restrictions, especially if you can't stop doing it, not saying I could.
Probably the same reason you people are bottom of the food chain when it comes to lung transplants...shootthebandit said:
That and the fact that society views it as "you chose to smoke, it's your own look out".
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Muslims are meant to pray at particular times each day varying by denomination unless there's a pressing reason why they can't. If you didn't have a prayer room a lot of people would still pray in public at those times, as they do across the Muslim world every day. While that wouldn't harm anyone (as opposed to smoking) it's an intrusion of religion into secular life which some people might find offensive.shootthebandit said:
There's a reason why don't have Christian prayer rooms. It's either Muslim or interdenominational (generally the latter), the reason being that most Christians aren't compelled to pray at particular times several times a day. For exactly the same reason, as a smoker you don't have to smoke. I understand addiction, but really, you weren't raised a smoker, you chose to become addicted knowing that you would suffer social and medical consequences. Take responsibility and suck it up for a few hours.
Really, you may as well argue heroin addicts are being discriminated against because they can't shoot up in public. Actually, I'm more sympathetic to them because they aren't harming anyone else (social consequences aside).
That's complete and utter bullshit. Brief periods of second hand smoke don't harm you any more than the copious amounts of car exhaust fumes that you and everyone else are subjected to every day unless you live on the countryside and never ever visit a larger metropolitan area...NeedAUserName said:
Which is idiotic since religion has killed a lot more people than smoking ever has...Matt_LRR said:
That particular airport just doesn't feel it's cost effective to build such a room. Any business has to decide what ranks top in budgeting and this particular one decided against a smoker's lounge. Even if they used an existing room then they'd still have to make it close to airtight and redo at least the immediate ventilation systems. It also costs a lot to maintain since they'd have to use the really, REALLY good air filters to keep the second hand smoke out of the rest of the air. On the other hand a prayer room just needs a sign saying what it is.
Also, religious persecution is not the same as glaring at someone for putting everyone around them at risk for serious medical conditions.
Also, religious persecution is not the same as glaring at someone for putting everyone around them at risk for serious medical conditions.
I am a smoker and this doesn't bother me. Why should airports and the various other people have to put up with my personal health destroying habbit? There's always the option to step back outside. Sure going through security again sucks but that's the price you pay. What I find most annoying is that some airport used to have special glass cube rooms in them for smokers. While some are still in place, you can't smoke in them any more. Oh well, it's not the end of the world and I can deal as most smokers can. Remember...not smoking is the norm and smokers do not deserve any special rights. With that said, I think I'll step outside in the cold and light one up.