Escape from New Vegas

[JesterRaiin]

For a few years i was uneable to play any modern game. However, with brand new PC i am finally back on tracks so to speak. I consider myself hardcore Fallout fan, so it should be pretty obvious what were first titles i wanted to play.

Fallout 3 was pretty good. Much better than anticipations - oh i do remember those rusty "orcs with rifles" arguments and i'm happy they have been proven wrong. I played FO3 a little, finished main quest, tried a few mods. Then i installed New Vegas.

Long story short, i am very dissapointed with this abomination. I can't uderstand why to some people NV seems superior to FO3. However, i am aware that this topic is dead and i don't want to ressurect it.

Instead, i'm curious. Indulge me please : are here people like me - that tried both games and went back to FO3 ?

 

[Fanta Grape]

Fallout 3 is better because you can kill Moira Brown.

Haven't played Vegas so I have nothing to say...

 

[silver wolf009]

Me. I just, couldn't, do it. NV just bored me. Triple cases of Post Benny Syndrome. Never had a problem like that in Fo3.

 

[Lukeje]

You could, you know, try and explain why you didn't like it: constructive criticism if you will. Just calling it an abomination doesn't do much than convince me that you are trying to flame people.

 

[Rawne1980]

I did enjoy New Vegas but something just keeps me coming back to Fallout 3.

Can't seem to put it down for long.

 

[Outright Villainy]

Fallout 3 is better because you can kill Moira Brown.

I was going to go on a big spiel about how much better New Vegas is, but now I have to give it some serious re-consideration...

 

[JesterRaiin]

If i may...
Is it only me, or Bethesda's concept for NV seems like "let's build big town with neons, and forget the rest - Wasteland, Fallout's unique atmosphere, scenarios with multiple endings and approaches - all are unimportant" ?

Fallout 3 is better because you can kill Moira Brown.

For all what's holy : why kill Moira ?! She's adorable.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

New vegas just feels more like real fallout to me... And i really really dig the hardcore system, that and playing on very hard can make the game way more challenging than fallout 3 was ever.

At least until you get more than a hundred super stimpaks, enclave armour, tons of weapon repair kits and all the max charge ammo for a plasma caster you ever need. But deathclaws can still kill you in a couple of hits if you let them get that close.

Plus the faction system is so good, the focus on karma in f3 was bs, how are people across the wasteland supposed to magically know if your a good person or not.

I also liked how power armour works in nv, it actually gives you near total damage immunity to weak guns, like it did in the old fallout.

And then theres way more ways to do quests than in fallout 3, there must be a dozen ways to kill benny, and you can even spare him!

 

[CCountZero]

I can relate to the "Post-Benny Syndrome", but it didn't affect me much, likely because I don't really care much for the story in either game.

I just go around exploring stuff, so for me, there's hardly any difference between the two. Nothing much has changed, New Vegas was just a large expansion pack to me.

 

[helloimtom]

i played both and loved both games but NV is better cause it has way more weapons and companions are better

 

[Hamish Durie]

For a few years i was uneable to play any modern game. However, with brand new PC i am finally back on tracks so to speak. I consider myself hardcore Fallout fan, so it should be pretty obvious what were first titles i wanted to play.

Fallout 3 was pretty good. Much better than anticipations - oh i do remember those rusty "orcs with rifles" arguments and i'm happy they have been proven wrong. I played FO3 a little, finished main quest, tried a few mods. Then i installed New Vegas.

Long story short, i am very dissapointed with this abomination. I can't uderstand why to some people NV seems superior to FO3. However, i am aware that this topic is dead and i don't want to ressurect it.

Instead, i'm curious. Indulge me please : are here people like me - that tried both games and went back to FO3 ?

Play fallout 1 and 2 then play FNV then play fallout three

then wonder why the titles where switched around




what I mean is fallout 1 and 2 had a sense of humour and the main villan was humanity
in fallout 3 the main villan is basiclly the environment you live in

 

[AlternatePFG]

I enjoyed both 3 and New Vegas quite a bit, but I prefer New Vegas much more.

 

[FredTheUndead]

If i may...
Is it only me, or Bethesda's concept for NV seems like "let's build big town with neons, and forget the rest - Wasteland, Fallout's unique atmosphere, scenarios with multiple endings and approaches - all are unimportant" ?

This sounds more like a criticism of 3, the game where everything is a disconnected series of set pieces with no real persistent setting and only 2 real options (kill everyone or don't) rather than New Vegas, the game where most major quests have anywhere from 2 to 5 solutions and the various towns and factions not only have different endings to fit the quest solutions, but to fit the various overall main quest endings, and which has numerous questlines built around explaining how things work in the settings and what role various settings and factions play.

New Vegas is the 3D form of Fallout 2. 3 is just random shit slapped onto a map.

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

If i may...
Is it only me, or Bethesda's concept for NV seems like "let's build big town with neons, and forget the rest - Wasteland, Fallout's unique atmosphere, scenarios with multiple endings and approaches - all are unimportant" ?

First off, Bethesda didn't make NV, Obsidian did. Secondly, 'Fallout's unique atmosphere'? Dude, F3 was nothing like the original Fallouts, NV is much, much closer to the originals than Bethesda's bastard child was. Since you consider yourself a 'hardcore Fallout fan' I'd have thought that was glaringly obvious. Thirdly, as far as 'scenarios with multiple endings' go let's not forget that there was only one way to complete F3, whereas in NV there are four different main campaigns to complete the game with. Not four different endings, but four different main campaigns.

I can only assume you're trying to start a flame war here, because your arguments are so badly misinformed it's not even funny.

 

[LaughingAtlas]

Fallout 3 is better because you can kill Moira Brown.

For all what's holy : why kill Moira ?! She's adorable.

Yes, she always sent you to what would likely be your death with a cheerful demeanor, like GLaDoS.
OT: I liked fallout 3 better because New Vegas, even without hardcore mode, felt so fucking oppressive. Merchants seem to rip you off more than those of any game within memory, monsters you don't stand a chance against in early levels are usually five times too fast to reasonably run away from unless your agility is around 9 and you aren't carrying anything, you're more or less railroaded into taking the same path to new vegas every fucking time, (I DID play more than two or three characters, but not all the way to the end if that says anything) and of course Post-Benny Syndrome. (not as bad as some say, but my motivation certainly takes a hit when some pricks I don't know say "Oh, you killed your main antagonist? Goodie for you, now come do my bidding.")

I know NV had it's good points, (like jury-rigging) but it also had fucktons of glitches and loading times. If you're patient, that probably won't bother you too much.

 

[Elemorea]

I never played fallout 1 & 2 before I played 3, so I didnt have any expectations.
I really enjoyed exploring the desolate wasteland and understanding what happened to the world before the bombs dropped. However I thought NV had less backstory and explanation of the previous world. Also as was said before, the place was powered with neon lights and people had money to gamble. It just wasn't the same sort of eire setting as Fallout 3 which made it slightly dissapointing in comparison to me.

 

[GundamSentinel]

Instead, i'm curious. Indulge me please : are here people like me - that tried both games and went back to FO3 ?

Yes. For me, it was basically just that. I loved Fallout 3, but after finishing the New Vegas story twice, it came to me that I just liked Fallout 3 so much better. It was mostly the atmosphere. New Vegas seemed to me, I don't know, too civilized and crowded. I liked the emptiness of Fallout 3.

 

[NotSoLoneWanderer]

Fallout New Vegas just didn't feel wastland-e. So many less locations a much smaller map and it I'd already felt like I'd done everything once I finished my Legion, Mr.House, NCR, and yes man playthroughs plus a "sorta" playthrough where I killed everyone in the wasteland. That may sounds like a lot but I recently went back to Fallout 3 thinking I had done everything and I went on to find a suit of T-51b power armour under fort bannister. That discovery made be play the game for another twenty hours a remember how varied the wasteland was. I just miss random encounters. Fallout NV is fun though but I wish I played it on PC so I could mod.