Escape to the Movies: Atlas Shrugged

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Sylocat

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I was not in the least bit surprised that they watered down the many parts of her message that don't fit with the right-wing agenda (her contempt for "Family Values" specifically).
 

RA92

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Rand is pathetic.

Now bring me a movie about Nietzsche's Übermensch - and make the God-killing part literal!
 

TheKruzdawg

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I tried reading Atlas Shrugged over the summer and couldn't get through it before I had to come back to school. Partly because it was so dense and I was really confused in the beginning as to what was actually happening, and partly due to working so much. But I want to go back through it someday.

I played Bioshock and I love Rush's music and wrote an essay about Rand's influence into a lot of their songs, specifically "2112" (whose lyrics are almost identical to the story of 'Anthem'). I've gotten the gist of objectivism from all of that, but it's still kind of confusing for me.
 

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What is the difference between a man and a parasite? A man builds; a parasite asks 'Where is my share?' A man creates. A parasite says, 'What will the neighbors think?' A man invents. A parasite says, 'Watch out, or you might make a crappy movie!'
 

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Every time the hardcore GOP falls out of power and/or favor, some desperate dinkleburg comes along and lets Ayn Rand out of Pandora's Box. Once the general population recovers from its mass lobotomy, people realize how unsustainable her ideas were, and she gets shoved back into the box.

For the purposes of sociology and political science, I think college students should have to play and/or watch someone play Bioshock through to the end for both endings. Might learn them a thing or two.
 

fierydemise

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The saddest part about them not making a trilogy is that we won't see the third movie. I've seen mentioned that the director wants to preserve most of John Galt's speech from the book which will make the third movie mostly ridiculous.

For those who haven't read Atlas Shrugged John Galt's speech is approximately 75-90 pages depending on the exact edition your reading from. Using a decent approximation of 1 page about every 2.5 minutes thats more then 3 hours speech, to even preserve half of that speech would take up more then half of the final movie in this supposed trilogy.
 

brazuca

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"A movie should stand by it's own merits." MovieBob

That was intense, could not agree more with you. Now what is soooo great about Ayn Rand. You (any american) read it and I only see frustration. Her books barely saw any success outside the US and the english speaking world. I can assure you she is very unknown in Latin America and South East Asia. Her ideology only served one particular part of the world and a much very specific segment of this particular part of the world. Yet I see lot of you guys falling in love with an ideology you ultimatly refuse to accept.

PS: individualism is such a lame excuse to explain history and social strructure that I dare anyone use it in any remarkable book outside the US.
 

funguy2121

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summerof2010 said:
Until he mentioned it at the end, I was confusing Atlas Shrugged with The Fountainhead. I read the latter and I can't remember if I read the former. But I fucking hated The Fountainhead. God. Damn. Awful. I mean, I still loved Bioshock, but I tend to detest anything associated with Ayn Rand, the pretentious, ruskie ****.
Kind of a fucked up take on "integrity," no? Protagonist is a rapist? I don't care if Rand later said it was "rape by engraved invitation," I read the book and he raped her. The next scene in the book starts out with the rap-ee thinking to herself "How could I be raped?" And the ending was the most meaningless crap ever. Then again, Rand herself said that she thought that women were inferior and that men were "heroes."
 

thethingthatlurks

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Shame the movie isn't all that great. I'm not exactly a huge Rand fan, but I did enjoy her books (still working through Atlas Shrugged). I can't for the life of me figure out why she gets so much hatred. If you don't agree with somebody's philosophical beliefs, ignore them.
On a completely unrelated side note: Who the hell is John Galt? And why do I suddenly have the compulsion to hit F5 repeatedly until Bob is on again next Friday?
 

Koroviev

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Abandon4093 said:
I didn't even know they were making a movie of this.

The book was heavy handed and pretty dull. So if they've removed the abstract lunacy. I probably won't bother with this.

I've still got The other Rand books to get through.

LOL at the Bioshock reference at the end.
That's my opinion of Rand's novella Anthem. The interesting narrative devices eventually just became unrelentingly tedious. At a certain point, it just became too dull to finish.

On a different note, I have heard good things about The Fountainhead from various people. Maybe it breaks Rand's suffocating mold?
 

PopeAwesomeXIII

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This is my first post, ever!

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/assholes-paradise/Content?oid=7770095

.... If you know or care about someone who likes Ayn Rand, please: Punch them in the face.
 
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Atlas Shrugged made for Corporate America? Isn't that like Animal Farm remade for the Soviets?

Hasn't the entire idea of shadowy Government conspiracies already gone through it's birth (The Manchurian Candidate), nadir(The X-Files), parody(Men In Black) and death(Salt)?
 

Lordpils

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I assumed that due to the current political climate most of the non-economic aspects of Ayn Rand's philosophies would be ignored because they would upset the massive amount of conservatives without any knowledge of Ayn Rand's philosophy who were going to see this movie, based on this I guessed correctly. I also assumed that the movie would be a fiscal conservative circle-jerk would that assumption be correct?