Escape to the Movies: Centurion

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Ignore my posts? You're already doing that. It's like your responses are meant for another conversation or you're making strange assumptions. Anyways nice talking to you, friendo.

 

[nYuknYuknYuk]

Bob. Never mention your last review again, don't give people more wood for the fire. Just do a good review next week and don't even offhandedly mention the Expendables. People will forget about it.

 

[KeefJM]

I can safely say that after watching this week's video and giving Bob another chance after last week's debacle, I am no longer interested in his reviews.

SkullCap, you said everything I wanted to. refer to his earlier post, its worth a read. (it was about 10 posts ago)

I am putting this out there for two reasons. One, to show my dislike for Moviebob's reviews as of late. Two, if by some chance Bob sees this, hopefully it shows him people are leaving and makes him realize it's time to clean up his act.

 

[ProjectTrinity]

Good grief. I am not reading all of this.

Someone, anyone, nice enough to refer me to the best posts/posters to this topic? Normally I'm all over it, but this is 13 pages of epic posting with good points on all sides.

 

[rosac]

Though i love Ving Rhames.
Especially Anime Ving Rhames.

Surprise Butsex!

OT: Not sure about pirahna, looks like a chepa T+A and cheap scare horror film. Never know, might get it on DVD. As for centurion, I may go see it, but does anyone know what rating the film is in the UK? Im 17 so Im not sure I will be able to see it.

Also, bob, please learn to either let sleeping dogs lie or apologise, it is getting ridiculous.

rosac

 

[kingmob]

It does seem Bob is not entirely in his right mind atm. Or maybe I held him in too high a regard, I don't know. One thing that seems obvious - and I mean this seriously, I know how it sounds - he has to get a girlfriend. Not just get laid, but a proper girlfriend. If he has one right now, he is with the wrong one I'd guess. I can appreciate good looks and boobs just like any man, but this focus of him is starting to get unhealthy.
Unless we're finally seeing this awesome movie that combines eroticism with great acting and story, I really don't want to see boobs as a reason to go see a film, I'll just watch porn for that.

"It was bad but at least it had good tits in it" is okish, but "go see it, it has tits!" isn't imo.

 

[Killerbunny001]

I`m not at speed with the whole flamewar thing going on here so for me and the others who don`t know the basic rant here the events are as follows ?:

1. MovieBob rages The Expendables suck because his beloved virgins targeted movie ranks low in the charts.
2. MovieBob somehow manages to offend people here.
3. The escapists strike back
4. MovieBob feels that he needs to fuck up another review to try and make a point only he gets.
5. The escapists strike back .. again.

Sorry for being the troll here but why do this ? I think most of us are in agreement that MovieBob`s vision over movies is his own and that most of us normally don`t agree with him anyway.

 

[thejboy88]

I understand people's comments regarding the fact that "not everything has to be high art" but sometimes, wouldn't it be nice if it was? Just to have one year of movies with no Michale Bay abominations or Tyler Perry discraces on the big screen. Just once I would like to see a year when not one film was bad. But maybe I'm just being a dreamer

 

[craddoke]

I think it's funny that the following equation usually applies to these reviews:

Crappy B-movie + Boobies = Dumb but fun flick
Crappy B-movie - Boobies = Sign of cinema's decline

Not complaining, though, since I tend to agree.

 

[George Palmer]

So....... essentially a good film is just tonnes of blood and a pair of tits?

Next week, Bob reviews "Backdoor Housewives 6: Shagged & Stabbed"

I doubt Bob would review that. Besides, everyone knows after the 3rd one they got boring and repetitive. The original trilogy is WAY better.

 

[Eremiel]

So I will start approaching your reviews differently, if you say something sucks then I'll assume you mean that it's excellent and I'll go see it.

Enjoy "Eat/Pray/Love".

Sorry you'll end up missing out on most of the good movies coming out.

Sorry I wasn't more clear in my statement. I mean things that appeal to me, not crap like that. You know, things I'm on the fence about.

Just so you know I was addressing Bob, not asking for someone to come and point out something that I felt was inferred in my post. Also, most of the good movies? In my opinion Bob has said that most of the good movies that I have seen were crappy. He and I are clearly two different types of movie goers.

Have fun traveling on the Movie Bob band wagon, I hear you don't have to make any decisions for yourself and you know what? That's one less thing to think about, and that's always a good thing.

You should've been a bit more clear, yes. No need for the insulting final bits of your post. Your post read clear as day that you would avoid anything Bob liked and watch anything he didn't. Your own fault for not being clear.

And Bob has his own opinions. I disagree with them every so often myself, but jeez.. it's nothing to get all insulted and huffy about. People are entitled to their own opinions. Bob included.

And for the record, I saw Expendables and found it boring. It had an excellent premise, but it actually took itself seriously. If it hadn't, it would've been an awesome movie.

 

[Mattteus]

really MovieBob?? you like 3-D softcore gore-porn??

 

[SamElliot'sMustache]

Yeah, they do. But, and this is a big one, Bob isn't acting more "'human'", he's throwing a tantrum and being unprofessional. Remember, in theory, Bob isn't just a neck-beard in his mother's basement flipping out about how this movie pissed him off for it's lack of showing "the goods" before offing Megan Fox. He is, allegedly a professional film critic who is paid for his opinion. That's a huge difference.

Okay, two things here, and I'll deal with them in reverse order. As for insulting people who like something you don't? I've never really understood that. Yahtzee's assessment that it dates (for consoles) back to an era when people couldn't afford to sample everything has some credibility, but in a larger scope, that argument really doesn't hold up.

Now, as to the first point, if you write professionally, (which I'm guessing you don't), then you basically have to moderate your own comments, and then give them to an editor who will moderate them even more. Some sites, like Something Awful have carved out a niche by ignoring this and spewing the crap that people who do or could write professionally in the same tone they'd use in their living room with their friends.

There's actually not that much of a difference. I pointed out much, much earlier that film critics do this all the time. Don't believe me? Go on Rotten Tomatoes, and look up any random movie, and you will find at least a dozen or so reviews, all from professional newspapers or magazines, that make far more harsh comments about not only films and filmmakers they don't like, but also the very people who go to watch these movies. Hell, Roger Ebert, A.O. Scott, and Armond White (especially Armond White) have made long and storied careers out of spewing far more vitriolic rhetoric than what Bob has used in his Expendables review, and they all have far more clout than he does. The reason for this is because criticism, unlike journalism, deals entirely in the subjective, and even with editors moderating comments, you're going to get lots of mud-slinging and incendiary jabs at the 'common folk' who flock to brain-dead films and ignore whatever film they happen to love at the moment (it's very rare, like in the case of Ebert's digs at gamers, and most of White's rants lately, for people to get up in arms about them, since most of the time no one cares).

Nah, it's not. You see, for it to be hypocritical, then Bob's tone from day one would have had to have been that of a petulant man child, which, it wasn't. He began with a fairly professional, and properly formatted review. What people are upset about is that he's not writing reviews anymore, he's painting pissed off blogs on the Escapist's front page about how his favorite film of the hour isn't being financially successful, and throwing a tantrum. It isn't hypocritical in the least to want more from him than that.

Like I said, he's not doing anything that is outside the bounds of any other form of film criticism, professional or otherwise, though I'm going to go out and agree that the quality of his reviews is on the decline. But, that's not what people are raging about in this thread. They're under the impression that Bob has personally insult them, because for once they're in that massive blob that is the mainstream moviegoing public going to see a shit film. If The Expendables had failed at the box office, and we were just left with him saying it was awful, virtually nobody would be as up in arms about it as they are now. And he's before taken shots at movies he thought were shit (and the people who see them) but still did well, but usually they fell into what the people on this site would have found acceptable to hate (i.e. Transformers, Blind Side, etc.), so not only did they not care, but they actively encouraged it. So, yes, it is hypocrical to fly into angry rants about it now.

 

[RedheadedKate]

Last time I'm going to read the comments. People get way too mad over movie reviews.

 

[whycantibelinus]

So I will start approaching your reviews differently, if you say something sucks then I'll assume you mean that it's excellent and I'll go see it.

Enjoy "Eat/Pray/Love".

Sorry you'll end up missing out on most of the good movies coming out.

Sorry I wasn't more clear in my statement. I mean things that appeal to me, not crap like that. You know, things I'm on the fence about.

Just so you know I was addressing Bob, not asking for someone to come and point out something that I felt was inferred in my post. Also, most of the good movies? In my opinion Bob has said that most of the good movies that I have seen were crappy. He and I are clearly two different types of movie goers.

Have fun traveling on the Movie Bob band wagon, I hear you don't have to make any decisions for yourself and you know what? That's one less thing to think about, and that's always a good thing.

You should've been a bit more clear, yes. No need for the insulting final bits of your post. Your post read clear as day that you would avoid anything Bob liked and watch anything he didn't. Your own fault for not being clear.

And Bob has his own opinions. I disagree with them every so often myself, but jeez.. it's nothing to get all insulted and huffy about. People are entitled to their own opinions. Bob included.

And for the record, I saw Expendables and found it boring. It had an excellent premise, but it actually took itself seriously. If it hadn't, it would've been an awesome movie.

I apologize for the insulting end to my previous post, I was a bit drunk when I typed it.

I didn't ever say Bob wasn't entitled to his own opinions or anyone else for that matter. I was just saying that he and I are different. I have a friend who is like that with video games, almost all the ones he loves I hate and vice versa, but we are still friends. I will continue to watch Bob's reviews just because I do find them sort of off beat from other reviewers and I like it, I just won't take them all that seriously. Kind of the same way a lot of people take Zero Punctuation with a gigantic mound of salt.


Oh, and thanks for being condescending, I love being talked to that way. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

 

[Venereus]

What Bob actually said:
* Bought into the hype and paid for The Expendables as soon as it came out = sheep.
* Longing for action movies to undo over 20 years of improvements = probably the worst kind of person, and would probably like The Expendables.
* B-movie with tits and gore = good B-movie.
* Bad attempt at a B-movie with all-star cast, big bidget and no gore = bad plain movie.

What angry commenters heard:
* Liked The Expendables = sheep.
* Liked The Expendables = definitely the worst kind of person.
* Good movies = tits and gore.
* Bad movies = no tits or gore.

You know, people hear what they want to hear, and if the hat fits...

 

[MB202]

Okay, now let's see what has been covered in this thread already:

1. Pointing out that Moviebob skirted around the REAL reason people were upset by his review last week? Check.

2. Comments made by Escapist's who actually think people are mad at the review because they liked the movie, instead of the fact that Moviebob insulted people's intelligence? Check.

3. Escapist's defending Moviebob's right to insult people and calling them whiners for telling someone they will not accept that someone who wants to be called a professional should act like the everyday dumpster scrapings on Youtube or every forum on the Web.

4. The double standard of Piranha 3-D being good because it "tries" to be a B-Movie, has gallons of blood, lesbianism, and nudity; while the Expendables is a mindless action movie that does what the people want? Check.

5. Centurion looks decent, but that small review was overshadowed by more hurled insults? Check.

6. Boobs are awesome? Check.

7. Geniuses pointing out the obvious of people "whining?" Check.

Well, I think that just about covers the general comments here. Now it's time for my two cents. Christopher Lloyd I love you man, but I can't see this film. It goes against every functioning brain cell I have.

Bob, I appreciate the caricature voices you give to represent the people who, God forbid, disagree with you, ranging from the Paul Walker-like jock voice to describe the general public or the Boston accent you occasionally use as well. However, now it's being used as a defense mechanism similar to that of a child mocking his authority figures. Even though in all your apparent intelligence you mentioned how people said not every film has to be high art, but you opt for showing your signature picture of Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds and repeating that argument in your Paul Walker surfer voice once more belittling people like a child. Grow Up.

Yahtzee insults people, but the very least he stresses that it's his own opinion. Call us "butt hurt" whiners if it makes you feel better, but that still doesn't change the fact that you've drastically fallen down in both professionalism and quality in your recent reviews.

Tits+lesbians+blood=Great bad film.

Mindless stupid action+mediocre plot=A living testament to how cinema's quality has gone down hill and all who see it are brainless douchebags or "Ogres."

Every critic is subject to their own opinion and how they review movies, but Roger Ebert doesn't give 'thumbs down' to a movie and say that people, who liked it must have their own thumbs up their asses. But your not Roger Ebert, your Bob Chipman, the critic who attacks a certain religion and insults their intelligence in his movie reviews. Bob Chipman, the critic who recommended "The Last Airbender." Bob Chipman, the critic whose older reviews focused on the intelligence or lack there of in a film, brief histories about genres, referencing literature, historic events, witty one-liners and re-watchable reviews. Bob Chipman, who never condemned the audience and sunk so low to act like an internet troll in his reviews. What happened to that MovieBob, we miss the old MovieBob, whose this hypocritical troglodyte that's replaced the real Moviebob we know and love? Y'know how he can come back? If you start being a professional once again and stop acting like an infant in your rants.

Tits, lesbians, and how much red corn syrup can fill the silver screen are poor reasons for liking a movie unless your a hormone-enraged teenager! This is not professional, Bob, this what one of those stereotypical frat boy douchebags, whom you compare the general public to, would say his reasons for liking a movie like Piranha 3-D.

Bob, you don't care and you don't mind how many people are starting to see that your reviews are nothing more than poor Youtube movie rants, and you sure as hell will stick by your opinions. You have a hardcore fanbase that will continue this show and a few people who already despise you.

In your GameOverthinker videos you always stress how you can't stand the people who insult people over XBOX Live because they disagree with that person or do something that pisses them off. Guess what? Your that person, an angry ranting voice that insults people they have never met, but continues to insult them b/c the people do something you disagree with.

"If fish looked like that, I'd fuck fish." Piranha 3-D

If anyone needs me I'll be at thatguywiththeglasses.com

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You pretty much hit the nail on the head... And summed up my own feeligns better than I ever could!

"He who fights monsters" as they say on TV Tropes. Oh for shame, how MovieBob has fallen from grace. I'll still watch his stuff, particularly his Game Overthinker episodes, but if he continues like this with his Escape to the Movies shtick...

I might as well just go watch Bum Reviews, with Chester A. Bum.