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HyenaThePirate

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I saw Conan.

It was a great movie with amazing action sequences that doesn't spend time pissing around trying to pretend that it is something it is not. For someone who goes to bat for Zack Snyder's hits and misses raving for their visual style and originality, to then turn around and dismiss a movie that mimics that exact same visual direction and intellectual honesty in its subject matter is quite frankly discrediting Bob.

But I'm not surprised. I knew before this even went pre-production that it could be filmed by Peter Jackson and Steven Spielberg with Edgar Wright's help and a reincarnated soul of Stanley Kubrick and STILL people would poo poo it. Why? Because the nostalgia factor was too great. I've seen people today actually say that Conan wasn't BULKY enough, or that the ROCK should have played him... WHAT?! Really?! That's the criticism? That Conan could actually put his ARMS DOWN?! Conan wasn't a body builder, he was a grim, strong, product of his harsh, unforgiving environment with Iron thews and a stoic sense of truncated morality.

Anybody who doesn't think THIS movie is better than at the very LEAST, Conan the Destroyer (and quite frankly better than Conan the Barbarian) is living in "Nothing can be the Original"-ville and loses all credibility with me. If you haven't read any of Robert Howard (or at least L. Sprague's) original Conan works, go do yourself a favor and go do that. Or buy the Savage Sword graphic novel collection. READ that, THEN watch this version of Conan again. I CHALLENGE you to say it is not closer to the source material and FAR more entertaining than the previous two outings. This movie is unashamed of what it is... a cult classic in the making, with decent CGI married with REAL BODY work, a filming technique FEW people seem capable of appreciating these days after watching people interact with the air in other big CGI eye-candy festivals this summer. It's a nice touch you appreciate, and the movie doesn't weigh itself down trying to be a pretentious art-house piece. It knows its identity and swaggers in with all the self-awareness of a Cimmerian boy seeking his first female conquest. The pacing is such that there isn't more than 5 minutes between something action-y going on, and even that time is split between sexy hot boobs and dudes making preparations to die.

Look, I entreat everyone here to for once cast aside your beliefs and thoughts and hang-ups about films, grab some popcorn, and go see this movie. If you can get past the "It's cool to hate stuff" thing long enough, you'll walk out realizing that the movie was pretty damn fun and worth your time and money.

Or hey, just go see the SMURFS because apparently that's the stuff HOllywood thinks we need more of.

As for you, Bob, thank you for reminding me why we shouldn't put too much (or ANY) faith reviewers. It is all too easy to forget that we are taking the advice of people who revel in the belief that they are the imminent experts on all things fun in a subject. And more often than not, they are sodden with nostalgia or soused in their own arrogance, or just plain way too jaded, to enjoy something us regular folk would find outstanding.
That's probably the best thing you taught anyone today. Congratulations.
 

HyenaThePirate

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Rossmallo said:
"Wait a sec, how will the original cast of Americain Pie reunite...
...Oh, Right."

Uh. Sorry, But I don't get it. Can someone explain this to me?
Basically he's taking a dig at the "success" (not really) of all of the main characters from the film.

I think he was just being facetious, and taking a shot at them that the people from some of the most successful comedy films in the past decade... NONE of those people went on to have any noteworthy career, instead have become sort of peripheral characters that trot around in other movies and shows of various levels of quality.

In other words, of course they will be reuniting to do a sequel because every single one of them has nothing better to do with their time and it keeps MOST of them from becoming side characters on a sitcom permanently or film teachers at the local community college.
 

Reptiloid

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Yes, it's just nostalgia, and no, the original Conan does not hold up today, just as it didn't hold up back then.
 

Jake the Snake

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With David Tennant in it, I had hoped it would be good. I might have to see it.

Also, really bummed that the new Conan is terrible.
 

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I'm really disappointed that the Conan movies sucks...

I read the original books (now out of print) books by Howard and also read quite a few books written by other authors... and while you might consider the Arnie flick good or bad, it is not a conan movie. Conan is not a brute that barely ever speaks... in fact, having to explain to people that Conan is actually quite smart in the books is one of the most annoying thing Conan fans (all 5 of us admitedly) have to do and it's all because of that Arnie movie.

From the trailer, this movies looked a lot closer to the book, the actor himself actually had a passing resemblance (Black haired to begin with!) with Conan and so forth... so yeah, sad to hear it sucks :(
 

HyenaThePirate

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Tarkand said:
I'm really disappointed that the Conan movies sucks...

I read the original books (now out of print) books by Howard and also read quite a few books written by other authors... and while you might consider the Arnie flick good or bad, it is not a conan movie. Conan is not a brute that barely ever speaks... in fact, having to explain to people that Conan is actually quite smart in the books is one of the most annoying thing Conan fans (all 5 of us admitedly) have to do and it's all because of that Arnie movie.

From the trailer, this movies looked a lot closer to the book, the actor himself actually had a passing resemblance (Black haired to begin with!) with Conan and so forth... so yeah, sad to hear it sucks :(
As a Conan fan myself, I can gladly tell you that this movie is NOT bad. In fact, I'll go as far as to say in ways it is BETTER than the originals.

Do yourself a favor, go see it. In the very least it's as entertaining as anything else you'll see this year, and it isn't a waste of money.

Don't take anyone's word on this. Go see for yourself. We've had so few Conan ANYTHING in the past decades, you owe it to yourself to at least go enjoy it for the simple fact that it is another big screen adaptation of Howard's work.
 

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When I first learned that Jason Momoa had been cast as Conan, I thought "WTF? This is going to suck." Then I saw him as Khal Drogo and thought "Hey, maybe he might work as Conan." But I guess I was wrong. What's especially annoying is that the greenlighting of a new Red Sonja film (allegedly) hinges entirely on the commercial success of this new Conan picture, so I guess that film's probably not going to happen now :-(
Well... if the string of 2012 "most anticipated movies" is any indicator... I think 2012 should be a good year to stay at home rather than hit a theater.
 

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The stingers at the beginning, yes. Do those again soon. I actually thought about maybe seeing The Help or Conan. Thanks for the warning. I actually hadn't thought about seeing Fright Night, but I'm beginning to reconsider.
 

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I don't really like horror movies, but David Tennant? I'm there.

I did have hopes for Conan, but only because I was impressed by Jason Momoa from his work in Game of Thrones. I figured the action scenes would be like his GoT fight scenes sans eyeliner.
 

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Glad to hear it's awesome, and now i have proof that David Tennant will be a perfect choice to play Alexander Anderson if they ever make a live action hellsing film...
 

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ph0b0s123 said:
daxterx2005 said:
low blow to the american pie cast.
I'm just glad we aren't getting another american pie presents film...
Book of love was such a piece of crap movie.
How's it a low blow. Seems right on the money to me. Tara Ried is in the UK Big Brother house, for God sakes...

Only Alyson Hannigan and Seann William Scott have a right to feel hard done by from the comments, maybe....
Low blow as in "thats a mean thing to say"
I wasn't trying to dispute bob and say they were all wicked busy and super famous....
Doesn't matter if what Bob said was true, its still a low blow.
 

Nihdrum

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I'm a Tennant fanboy, so I would have seen the movie despite what you said about it.. But I'm glad you liked it and that David still delivers!
 

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I don't give a fuck about any movie called Conan the Barbarian. I'm broke, I was born in 1990, and I have nothing to gain from watching a Arnold movie or it's dumb remake.
 

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Oh, poo on you, Bob. The only thing the new Conan movie was missing was a sense of humor, which was a bit of a shame, but didn't really detract from the entire package, which was everything you could want from a Conan film.
HyenaThePirate said:
I saw Conan.

It was a great movie with amazing action sequences that doesn't spend time pissing around trying to pretend that it is something it is not. For someone who goes to bat for Zack Snyder's hits and misses raving for their visual style and originality, to then turn around and dismiss a movie that mimics that exact same visual direction and intellectual honesty in its subject matter is quite frankly discrediting Bob.

But I'm not surprised. I knew before this even went pre-production that it could be filmed by Peter Jackson and Steven Spielberg with Edgar Wright's help and a reincarnated soul of Stanley Kubrick and STILL people would poo poo it. Why? Because the nostalgia factor was too great. I've seen people today actually say that Conan wasn't BULKY enough, or that the ROCK should have played him... WHAT?! Really?! That's the criticism? That Conan could actually put his ARMS DOWN?! Conan wasn't a body builder, he was a grim, strong, product of his harsh, unforgiving environment with Iron thews and a stoic sense of truncated morality.

Anybody who doesn't think THIS movie is better than at the very LEAST, Conan the Destroyer (and quite frankly better than Conan the Barbarian) is living in "Nothing can be the Original"-ville and loses all credibility with me. If you haven't read any of Robert Howard (or at least L. Sprague's) original Conan works, go do yourself a favor and go do that. Or buy the Savage Sword graphic novel collection. READ that, THEN watch this version of Conan again. I CHALLENGE you to say it is not closer to the source material and FAR more entertaining than the previous two outings. This movie is unashamed of what it is... a cult classic in the making, with decent CGI married with REAL BODY work, a filming technique FEW people seem capable of appreciating these days after watching people interact with the air in other big CGI eye-candy festivals this summer. It's a nice touch you appreciate, and the movie doesn't weigh itself down trying to be a pretentious art-house piece. It knows its identity and swaggers in with all the self-awareness of a Cimmerian boy seeking his first female conquest. The pacing is such that there isn't more than 5 minutes between something action-y going on, and even that time is split between sexy hot boobs and dudes making preparations to die.

Look, I entreat everyone here to for once cast aside your beliefs and thoughts and hang-ups about films, grab some popcorn, and go see this movie. If you can get past the "It's cool to hate stuff" thing long enough, you'll walk out realizing that the movie was pretty damn fun and worth your time and money.

Or hey, just go see the SMURFS because apparently that's the stuff HOllywood thinks we need more of.

As for you, Bob, thank you for reminding me why we shouldn't put too much (or ANY) faith reviewers. It is all too easy to forget that we are taking the advice of people who revel in the belief that they are the imminent experts on all things fun in a subject. And more often than not, they are sodden with nostalgia or soused in their own arrogance, or just plain way too jaded, to enjoy something us regular folk would find outstanding.
That's probably the best thing you taught anyone today. Congratulations.
Well said, sir. Momoa pulls the role off far better than Schwarzenegger ever did. This is probably the best Conan movie the current generation of film could give us.

But even though Bob is quite frequently wrong, he usually has a pretty good sense of what makes a quality film, even if his standards are far too high or particular, so I'll give Fright Night a watch.
 

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when I first saw the trailer for this movie I thought its very EXISTENCE was a sign of something positive, a movie with an ACTUAL vampire that is ACTUALLY scary, and the people who are fighting him aren't super powered action heroes like Blade either. To find that the movie is actually GOOD to boot is really a sign of positive change in this world.
 

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HyenaThePirate said:
I'm reasonably certain that I've read through the majority of Howard's original "Conan" stories, and here and there of the "official" ones by other authors. Whatever else the new film may be, it's NOT any closer to the source material than the older one. It borrows the "you killed my people"/"I want my father's sword" revenge angle which was invented for the first one, and the rest of it's story is a hodgepodge of sword & sorcery cliches - peppering a screenplay with name-drops to places and events from the Howard stories does not a faithful adaptation make.
 

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Conan was horrible?
Well I'll probably still go for the eye candy.
It's also good to hear that Fright Night was pretty decent.