I saw it on the midnight showing and was thoroughly entertained. I'm sad to see it end. Now I want to go back and read the books through again for the tenth time.
Escape to the Movies: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part II
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Because the Order of the Phoenix book was incredibly dull. It was 800 pages of exposition for books 6 and 7.road_to_dawn said:
I think it interesting that the worst book in the series has given the best movie in the series (part 1) and the one of the more solid entries in the series (part 2). And the filmmakers didn't even change that much.
The first two thirds of hallows, on page, are long, boring and drawn out. But compressing that section down to fit a two and a half hour run time turned this section into to the most compelling entry in the series.
The third act of Hallows is terrible. It's nothing but exposition, Deus ex Machina and action scenes that read like they would look great onscreen but a pretty dull and lifeless of page. The movie works because the action scenes are in the film version fun to watch and you can get away with greater amounts of exposition and Deus ex Machina in movies. I was glad to see that a couple of stupider plot turns (Ron and Herminone destroying the Horcrux in the chamber, in the book they just go off and do it off screen then tell Harry afterwards; the convenient fire monster that that we have never heard of before but can apparently destroy horcruxes and Harry Just expositioning at Voldemort and then Voldemort going down without a fight) were modified.
The first two thirds of hallows, on page, are long, boring and drawn out. But compressing that section down to fit a two and a half hour run time turned this section into to the most compelling entry in the series.
The third act of Hallows is terrible. It's nothing but exposition, Deus ex Machina and action scenes that read like they would look great onscreen but a pretty dull and lifeless of page. The movie works because the action scenes are in the film version fun to watch and you can get away with greater amounts of exposition and Deus ex Machina in movies. I was glad to see that a couple of stupider plot turns (Ron and Herminone destroying the Horcrux in the chamber, in the book they just go off and do it off screen then tell Harry afterwards; the convenient fire monster that that we have never heard of before but can apparently destroy horcruxes and Harry Just expositioning at Voldemort and then Voldemort going down without a fight) were modified.
I stopped watching the movies after two when they were coming out because my younger self was quite the pretentious "adaptation-purist", and refused to read the last book after 6 because Half-Blood Prince is one of the worst written and most boring novels I've ever been unfortunate enough to read. However, when Deathly Hallows Pt. 1 came out my fiance dragged me along to it, and I was impressed as hell! That movie was amazing in a ton of different ways. So I'm definitely looking forward to this last one, probably going to see sometime in the next week.
What I find odd about the Harry Potter movies is that I got more into them as they went along, When the first film came out I was 11 and gradually I've gone from not really caring at all till eventually caring more than I thought. I wasn't that in to the books as I kid so that's probably to blame but also the films seem to get better as they go along.
I saw it last night and part of me wanted to wait till the end of the credits to see if Samuel L Jackson would appear!
I saw it last night and part of me wanted to wait till the end of the credits to see if Samuel L Jackson would appear!
Thank god these are over, now people can just shut up about them and go read better fantasy books. Or not, since they all were sheep and need a bandwagon to venture out for any decent entertainment.
Sorry, I'm just relieved that the hype train's over, and people can start being honest that the books were predictable unimaginative tripe and JK Rowling was never a good writer. I even bothered with reading the books off friends from 1-5, but dropped it because of her hack writing. Nothing against the kids that grew up with it, just the adults who took this way too seriously.
Sorry, I'm just relieved that the hype train's over, and people can start being honest that the books were predictable unimaginative tripe and JK Rowling was never a good writer. I even bothered with reading the books off friends from 1-5, but dropped it because of her hack writing. Nothing against the kids that grew up with it, just the adults who took this way too seriously.
He has not read the books...
He just lost all nerd-cred with me.
ALL of it.
And he made himself sound stupid by saying that.
Now I hear him droning but...
He
has
not
read
Harry
Potter
He just lost all nerd-cred with me.
ALL of it.
And he made himself sound stupid by saying that.
Now I hear him droning but...
He
has
not
read
Harry
Potter
Bob didn't cover this (he didn't cover all that much about the movie itself), but did they use a bit too much slow motion in this movie? I think that added about 15 minutes to the run time -- they didn't exactly need all of it, and it looked silly in some places. Or maybe I'm just crazy.
I'm honestly surprised this series is seen to be so successful it seems like it should have a niche audience. People who liked the books and didn't mind the changes. As a person who's seen the movies on ABC family they seem just as boring as the books so it's baffling that there's even stuff taken out to make the time slot reasonable. I prefer lord of the rings and narnia more but this is a lot better than eragon or some of the other fantasy movies that were released into the wild following the success of lord of the rings.
To explain the Elder Wand being Harry's bit, for those fo you who didnt' get it
I'm glad to see this film series end, as well made production wise it was, it essentially killed the interwoven, longterm plot points, as mentioned, characters randomly appearing, and people like myself filling in the gaps with the parts we knew happened in the books.
I'm all for "adapting for a medium" but what they did here was a huge mistake.
Since they ruined the ending to the last movie it's a complete plot hole, here's how it worked, in Number 6 Draco Malfoy disarmed Dumbledore when they got back after getting the locket, therefore defeating him and earning the alliegence of the wand. But Snape killed him you say? yes, but by that point the wand was Malfoys, so killing Dumbledore was irrelevant, Voldemort assumed that you needed to kill the previous owner to defeat them and win the alliegence of the wand, which is why he killed Snape. SO, when harry defeated and stole Malfoy's wand at Malfoy Manor, he also won the alliegence of the elderwand, since it's true master (Malfoy), was defeated, The Elder Wand was Harrys
I'm glad to see this film series end, as well made production wise it was, it essentially killed the interwoven, longterm plot points, as mentioned, characters randomly appearing, and people like myself filling in the gaps with the parts we knew happened in the books.
I'm all for "adapting for a medium" but what they did here was a huge mistake.
In all fairness though, movies are movies, books are books. The movies should be self-contained entities and explain themselves, not constantly being explained by another medium(which has a completely different style and way of explaining things anyway). I would say its fair enough not having read ANY of the books to go into this and review it just as critically. I honestly doubt many people have read the LOTR books but still appreciated the movies and got everything out of them.Calibanbutcher said:
Really can you find me this Star Wars book that somehow existed before 1977...get your facts straight please before you try to cite Star Wars in that group.PsychedelicDiamond said:
I love Escape To The Movies, but if there's one complaint I have it's that Bob seems to hide behind the Spoiler Warning tag far too often. Movie reviews are supposed to do just that, review movies and allow a prospective audience decide whether or not it's worth their money. But throwing spoilers into the reviews completely defeats the point of that. Why does being on the internet or in a video format excuse you from the golden rule of film criticism, which is to review without giving anything away? Acknowledging that you'e doing it doesn't make it right.
Agreed ,she was very careful about continuity and things mentioned once were usually brought up again and in the book format everything was easy to follow.rayen020 said:
The movies breezed through all the "extra" stuff witch was what made it great.
But i guess it can't be helped.
I still can't believe they decided to keep that shitty epilogue though.
Normally he tells you to whether its worth watching if he's gonna use spoilers.Dok Zombie said:
So he probably assumed everyone's gonna watch it anyway.
And i don't think people should watch reviews before going to watch something
(especially if you know your going to anyway),because it effects the way you view it.
Thank you sir! I read through the last book so fast that it was a blur, and by the time it got to that big reveal it blew my mind and was very confusing. That was a nice piece to the puzzle I was forgetting.GartarkMusik said:Dumbledore intended to die undefeated, the Wand's last true master, and its power would have disappeared with it, however, Draco Malfoy disarmed him before he died in the 6th book, so the wand recognized him as the new owner, but then Harry defeats Draco in a duel at Malfoy Manor and takes his wand, which then leaves Harry as the true master. Hope that helped!MB202 said: