Escape to the Movies: Hobo With a Shotgun

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mikespoff

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ZZoMBiE13 said:
Seriously Bob, you need to let your love of the classic Robin go. It's starting to get a little creepy. Like it or not, these are the times we live in. And in said times, a young boy in short shorts hopping round the rooftops with a big man in tights is more likely to get the attention of Chris Hansen than a comic book movie/game director.

If Nolan can make his version of Gotham that is just Chicago with explosions and it works well, what's wrong with updating Robin? Besides, they already did "Boy Wonder" Robin to perfection in years past. (seriously, B:TAS and all it's other versions had a perfect Robin setup) So why not give new Robin a chance before we call him names and say he sucks?

The strength of the Batman Mythos is that it is an archetype and therefore can be infinately reinterpreted. And like it or not, wanting classic Boy Wonder is a wish that isn't likely to come true. I'd rather put forth the question of why Robin has never been anything other than a troubled white kid. There's a lot of room to build an interesting story that a minority character could inhabit. Hell even Frank Miller was forward thinking enough to make a girl Robin.
Yeah, I'm with you on this one. Rocksteady have done such awesome things with Batman, I'm very happy to give them the benefit of the doubt until I actually play it.

Yes, it's not bright red and yellow. But he's hanging out with a dude in black who makes a trademark of disappearing into the night, so I don't have issues with the costume redesign. As they showed with literally all the villains in Arkham Asylum, Rocksteady are not afraid of the brighter side of the colour palette, so I guess they just thought this costume was more suited to his character.

Without wanting to get too philosophical about it, the villains are mostly relentlessly self-promoting egomaniacs, so the lurid costumes suit them. A troubled, angry and violent kid who stalks the streets beating the crap out of criminal would perhaps choose something in more muted tones.
 

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Well one would think that with a title as ludicrous as "Hobo With A Shotgun" you'd have to be some kind of idiot not to want to watch it.
 

RJ Dalton

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There is a fatal flaw in your logic, MovieBob. It's quite a big assumption to say that the people who obsessed over High School Musical are intelligent enough to get through film school. I find that highly unlikely.
 

RJ Dalton

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Hell, I just realized something. What MovieBob is talking about with people recycling things they grew up on? That's exactly what I'm doing with D&D novels.
I guess that makes me the next George Lucas, but with D&D instead of Sci-fi serials.

Edit: On a side note, I suddenly realize I should probably have just added this to my last post with the edit option, but it's a bit too late to go back and change it now, so oh well. You live and learn. And then get Loves, apparently, but that kind of assumes I've had sex with a woman, so I may have to stop the process at the learning.
 

cuppajoe1687

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ZZoMBiE13 said:
Seriously Bob, you need to let your love of the classic Robin go. It's starting to get a little creepy. Like it or not, these are the times we live in. And in said times, a young boy in short shorts hopping round the rooftops with a big man in tights is more likely to get the attention of Chris Hansen than a comic book movie/game director.

If Nolan can make his version of Gotham that is just Chicago with explosions and it works well, what's wrong with updating Robin? Besides, they already did "Boy Wonder" Robin to perfection in years past. (seriously, B:TAS and all it's other versions had a perfect Robin setup) So why not give new Robin a chance before we call him names and say he sucks?

The strength of the Batman Mythos is that it is an archetype and therefore can be infinately reinterpreted. And like it or not, wanting classic Boy Wonder is a wish that isn't likely to come true. I'd rather put forth the question of why Robin has never been anything other than a troubled white kid. There's a lot of room to build an interesting story that a minority character could inhabit. Hell even Frank Miller was forward thinking enough to make a girl Robin.
Agreed, and in all honestly his comment about "robin wasn't enough of a douche let's make him douchier." I think rocksteady was going more for "Robin's a pussy, let's make him look like cole mcgrath because playing pedo jailbait in green booty shorts is in no way going to be cool or fun."
 

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summerof2010 said:
Bla bla bla Bob. Robin looks cool. I never dug the whole "boy wonder" shtick and it wouldn't fit with Arkham's style anyway. Besides, it wouldn't be the first time Robin has been re-imagined as an emotionally disturbed, ultra-violent youth in combat armor, and that other time, it fucking worked [http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Batman_Under_The_Red_Hood/70135479?trkid=2361637].
under the red hood is a fucking fantastic movie.

This is Tim Drake though, not Jason Todd. Although shit went down with him in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker
 

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MovieBob said:
cricket chirps said:
He is supose to be someone who lived in the part of the city that has now fallen to arkahm inmates, and being inspired by Batman, he took his cage fighting experience to become a vigilante and fight back against those who ruined his city.
...I just threw up a little.
Actually I'm pretty sure that whole thing is complete bullshit. I don't think Robin is even in Arkham City's storyline, he's just a character you can use in the challenge maps. That's it.

And, actually, examining the design closer...doesn't he kinda look like Chris O'Donnell? Oh...god, I think I just gave myself an aneurysm. The design just looks bland at best. Seriously, would it KILL people to give the guy some hair? I don't remember any of the Robins ever having a buzzcut.
 

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Wait a second.

Is this only now coming out in American theaters?

Regardless, I missed this in theaters in Canada, unfortunately, but I think it's on DVD now. I'm already looking for it on that for cheap, so...yeah.
It used to be that Europe would get American movies late, but now we get them the same time, it looks like the Americans get other countries exports late...

OT I have a secret fondness for Troma, toxie was great. I watched this because the film poster was just too badass, and they have me a free one at London Kapow Comicon. Good shizzle

As for Robin, well, the whole franchise is overrated, so maybe this will be the first few steps to re-killing it for a while.
 

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That opening made me realize just how old movies are as a medium.
And now I feel old thinking about the movies I watched as a kid.
 

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coconut_buyer said:
Why do you ignore comedies bob? Sure Zookeeper would have been shit, but Horrible Bosses is getting decent reviews and I would have liked to see your views on that. You seem to always duck out when there's only comedies opening in theaters. Why is that?
As he's said in some of his past reviews of comedies, comedies are really hard for him to review. All he can say is if it was funny or not, and he doesn't like giving away the jokes because then we know them and they aren't as funny and then Princess Peach sends him hate mail...

So yeah, that's probably why. I won't lie, I was sort of hoping for Horrible Bosses too because I'm debating whether to go see it or wait for it to come out at the cheapo theatre.
 

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Now if they had said that this Robin design was Damian, I would probably think it was sort of ironically funny and maybe a good look for him.

But Tim? As he is probably the most intelligent and emotional character in the immediate Bat-family, they're doing it wrong.
 

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omegawyrm said:
Now if they had said that this Robin design was Damian, I would probably think it was sort of ironically funny and maybe a good look for him.

But Tim? As he is probably the most intelligent and emotional character in the immediate Bat-family, they're doing it wrong.
Even Damian had hair.
 

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Aiddon said:
omegawyrm said:
Now if they had said that this Robin design was Damian, I would probably think it was sort of ironically funny and maybe a good look for him.

But Tim? As he is probably the most intelligent and emotional character in the immediate Bat-family, they're doing it wrong.
Even Damian had hair.
Yeah, but he's just the kind of angsty, rebellious little dick to get a buzzcut like that.
 

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MovieBob said:
cricket chirps said:
He is supose to be someone who lived in the part of the city that has now fallen to arkahm inmates, and being inspired by Batman, he took his cage fighting experience to become a vigilante and fight back against those who ruined his city.
...I just threw up a little.
How about a Big Picture episode about this? ;)
 

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Azex said:
I missread as hobo with a Shogun

and robin looks fine... in character with Tim imo, thank god its not Jason Todd...now that guy is 72% more dueche
I know a lot of people hate Jason Todd but I thought he was awesome as the Red Hood.
 

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I saw this at a drive in a few months back, with a bit of lightning looming in the distance. Perfect venue to watch it.
 

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summerof2010 said:
Bla bla bla Bob. Robin looks cool. I never dug the whole "boy wonder" shtick and it wouldn't fit with Arkham's style anyway. Besides, it wouldn't be the first time Robin has been re-imagined as an emotionally disturbed, ultra-violent youth in combat armor, and that other time, it fucking worked [http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Batman_Under_The_Red_Hood/70135479?trkid=2361637].
only seen the trailer but it looks good. though a bit disappointed Mark Hamill doesn't play the joker in it. all the animated batman media i've seen has had him play the joker.

and AA2 robin looks good, if he was the boy wonder he would be out of place.