Escape to the Movies: Hot Tub Time Machine

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rubydynamite

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Here I am, bored on a Sunday, and the thought occurs to me to check out Escapist to see if anything new has come up and, neat! A new review from Movie Bob. However, when I actually start watching, I get smacked in the face by a tsunami of butthurt from him regarding Repo!TGO and RepoMen from last week's review.

Yes, Movie Bob. People know Repo! and like it - love it, even. You might not be a fan of the musical genre, but just because you don't get something doesn't lower the chances of anyone ELSE finding it interesting or exciting.

For example, I thought Drag Me to Hell was a completely unnecessary series of gross-out gags better left to the 10-year-olds and you're talking about it as though it's fucking Taxi Driver. Not to mention Hot Tub Time Machine. I mean, really? REALLY? You're pushing *this* piece of wannabe Superbad/Something About Mary/40 Year Old Virgin hackneyed 'comedy' garbage as something worth spending $8 plus $20 for popcorn on? People don't know what proper comedy is anymore. Comedy is not fart/shit/piss/puke/jizz in the hair jokes. That's comedy if you're 5. Comedy for proper adults is something else altogether different. Comedy is not about 'bits' and 'gags' - it's Adam Sandler and Jack Black and other dipshits like them that ruined comedy and turned it into cheap, easily-forgotten tripe to amuse the ADD-addled generation who can't sit still without something exploding -- or somebody having explosive diarrhea. "Comedy" in US movies these days is not comedy. It's Itchy and Scratchy for retard frat boys or those who have the maturity of retard frat boys.

I actually did enjoy your reviews, but after this, I give up. Sure, something might not be to your taste, but a reviewer with some class would just chalk it up to 'it's not my cup of tea' and leave it at that, rather than take up half a review (for what is more than likely a completely mediocre piece of shit, btw - oh, the irony) insulting Repo fans and the people who created the movie and just shrugging your shoulders at out and out, boldfaced plagiarism. So, yeah. Fuck that. I wish you Shia LeBouff in every single summer action flick this year -- in *every* movie this year, regardless of whether it's an action movie or not. Douche.




"A little glass vial!"
 

Fuloqwam

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I came on the site today hoping to decide whether to see "Hot Tub Time" machine and left really wanting to watch "Mulholland Drive" again. Naomi Watts and Laura Harring; hell yeah.
 

Feylynn

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XD If not for the fact that it's a ridiculously awesome movie (no matter what anyone says) I'm glad this many of us bitched about Genetic Opera being cooler last time JUST because it spawned that intro.

Perhaps that third 'really' will persuade me to see this at some point.

I may have nightmares of them remaking Back to the Future now.
Way to go.

"And the little glass vial goes into the gun like a battery"
 

Pete Oddly

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Three things:

1. Hot Tub Time Machine is fucking hilarious. Just saw it a few hours ago, and it is absolutely as funny as Movie Bob makes it out to be. The only people who won't find this funny are the same people who think Rushmore is the greatest comedy of all time.

2. Movie Bob sometimes doesn't like great movies. So what? We all have a movie we hate that is otherwise a solid piece of film making. I hate most of the James Bond movies, and there are people who would crucify me for saying that in public. The point is there's no accounting for taste. If something just seems bad to you because it doesn't appeal to you, doesn't make you an idiot or a philistine.

3. Repomen rips off the following from Repo!, and nothing else: It's the future; a megacorp makes replacement organs; megacorp gets super rich; megacorp repossesses replacement organs if you can't pay. Similarities over. Repo! was an amazing goth rock-opera tragedy, and Repomen is a high-action "bad guy repents becomes hero" movie. How does this make these the same movie?
 

aithilin

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Quiet Stranger said:
Sooooo can someone tell me does he spoil it? I just watched a minute in before he says "It's hard to talk about a good comedy movie"
No, he doesn't spoil it. But he doesn't review it, either. He boils it down to "if you like There's Something About Mary, you'll like this" and that's about it. No indication of why it should be liked, or whether or not it's interesting if you don't like current comedies, but he doesn't give away any of the jokes, plot, or characters.

Like, seriously, he doesn't. He skims the premise and then said that it was "really, really, really funny."
 

Cosplay Horatio

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MovieBob said:
Cosplay Horatio said:
At least it's not as bad as Chris Evans being cast as Cap'n America for the movie series...oh wait...didn't he also play the role of The Human Torch in the Fantastic Four films?
Personally, I've got no real issue with Evans as Cap. He's far and away the best of the guys they were otherwise looking at (Ryan Philipe, John Krasinski, Mike Vogel and Channing Tatum) and since A.) There aren't going to be anymore of those god-awful FF movies and B.) They were made by a different studio and won't be "connected" to the other Marvel properties at all, I can deal with the dissonance.

Why won't they cast Nathan Fillion?! It's an injustice I tell you.
Because he's too old for it, or at least looks it. They're casting for someone who can play 20-something guy who's not "army material yet" in the first one AND the costumed role for a decade or so of sequels and crossovers. Plus, Fillion has a hit TV show he's probably not keen to walk away from.

Look, I understand, my generation went through a "such-and-such-oldschool-looking-hero-actor should play EVERY genre role!!!!" thing with Bruce Campbell; so lemme save you some time: Nathan Fillion is probably NEVER going to play a franchise superhero character, save for some voicework he already did.
Few days after my rant, I apologize by the way, I've been warming up to him and I'm glad that Chris is going to be Cap. Even before my rant I've always said whoever gets to be Cap'n America will be the most popular of all the comic book characters that made it to the silver screen but we still have to wait to see your review and the movie itself.

As far as Nathan Fillion, and again I apologize, I understand now and thanks for replying.
 

Eldarion

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LoL at all the people who see that moviebob's opinion differs from theirs that automatically think he loses all credibility. Seriously, no one cares what you think.

Reviewers review movies for everyone in an attempt to explain why or why not most people might like or dislike a movie, a reviewer does NOT need to think the same as you. Not that your opinion is gospel anyway. If you need a reviewer to agree with everything you do just so you can nod your head and pretend to be thinking important thoughts, you need a higher self esteem or something.

I didn't very much like this movie myself, but eh the humor used here isn't my thing. Another good video regardless.
 

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You know what's irritating about Movie Bob's analogy of Repo! to Warriors of Virtue? The fact that the only thing that Hot Tub Time Machine has in common with Warriors of Virtue is that there is a whirlpool vortex, while Repo Men is a shameless rip off of Repo!, save for the fact that it has a bigger budget and is not a musical.

Did I like Repo the Genetic Opera? Yeah, sure it was fun. I'm not a die hard fan or anything, but I enjoyed it. I just think Movie Bob needs to get his head out of his ass a bit on this one. I really don't care he didn't like it, but comparing a rehash (because Repo! became oddly successful, a mainstream remake was inevitable) to a slight similarity seems both ignorant and snobbish.

The truth is, if the production company, Liongate, didn't fight against Repo! as much as it did, this would mostly be a non issue, but I can't shake the feeling that some corporate money grabber noticed that Repo!, despite it's cripplingly small publicity, did fairly well, and decided to repackage it into a more approachable, mainstream version. Now, this is all speculation, but it kind of makes sense, doesn't it?

As a side note, I think it's kind of amusing that he mentions Equilibrium, which is also a little known movie with a cult following that didn't get the publicity it deserved. Just a thought.
 

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meh the movie looks alright like if it is on tv I won't change the channel but I wouldn't go out to see it.
I have to agree with the idea that this doesn't look like it really needs the big screen to get full enjoyment out of it. I might borrow someone's copy or even rent one, but I'm not going to pay inflated theater prices for no reason.
 

Dak_N_Jaxter

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Great BK 2V Future Shire la Booth.
I might see this movie anyways. And thanks for the heads up on that "other" one.
 

obliterate

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MovieBob said:
Cosplay Horatio said:
At least it's not as bad as Chris Evans being cast as Cap'n America for the movie series...oh wait...didn't he also play the role of The Human Torch in the Fantastic Four films?
Personally, I've got no real issue with Evans as Cap. He's far and away the best of the guys they were otherwise looking at (Ryan Philipe, John Krasinski, Mike Vogel and Channing Tatum) and since A.) There aren't going to be anymore of those god-awful FF movies and B.) They were made by a different studio and won't be "connected" to the other Marvel properties at all, I can deal with the dissonance.

Why won't they cast Nathan Fillion?! It's an injustice I tell you.
Because he's too old for it, or at least looks it. They're casting for someone who can play 20-something guy who's not "army material yet" in the first one AND the costumed role for a decade or so of sequels and crossovers. Plus, Fillion has a hit TV show he's probably not keen to walk away from.

Look, I understand, my generation went through a "such-and-such-oldschool-looking-hero-actor should play EVERY genre role!!!!" thing with Bruce Campbell; so lemme save you some time: Nathan Fillion is probably NEVER going to play a franchise superhero character, save for some voicework he already did.
Well personally in my opinion Evans won't be able to handle the role as Cap.
OK maybe I am being too negative about this but think about it for a sec, wouldn't it be perfect if they cast someone who actually understands what Captain America is all about ?
Yeah...I gotta stop dreamin...But anyway I am more interested in the Green Lantern movie :)
Oh and about the new Spider-Man movie...I want to ask you good escapist people what do you think of the whole thing ? When I heard that it would have a new story I was kinda interested about the whole ting :) Here are the opinions of James Franco (Harry Osborn) and Kirsten Dunst (Mary Jane Watson) about the new Spider-Man :)

What do James Franco and Kirsten Dunst, who played Harry Osborn and Mary Jane Watson in Sam Raimi's Spidey trilogy, think about the Spider-Man reboot?

Talking to E! Online, Franco says that he doesn't have a problem with it. "It worked out well for Batman, and comics themselves have different artists and writers. I think it's perfectly fine."

He did add, however, that he thinks "for the viewers you want a little space [between Raimi's and Webb's flicks], so you can get everyone else out of your head."

Dunst said it is "sad to see it end. I think for Sam it was time for him to move on, and so we're all going to move on with him. But we've had a good 10 years."
 

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Izzil said:
blakfayt said:
Is it possible to lose the respect of a reviewer after one review? Yes, I must say that you have lost a fan Movie bob, you picked me up when you said you hated halo, you lost me when you recommended this movie. Also the problem with Repomen was that the fucking idea was stolen from Repo the genetic opera, it was THE SAME FUCKING CONCEPT WITH MORE EXPLOSIONS. *sigh* farewell movie bob, with this the escapist is one step closer to being dead to me.
Melodramatic much?

OT--I was on the fence about seeing this. On the one hand it had a decent cast. On the other, the premise was idiotic. Maybe I'll give it a go when it hits the local cheap seats.
Nope I'm right there with Blakfayt. I've always seen Movie Bob as a movie enthuse first. A movie critic second. And he too has lost a fan out me. I've watched his weekly shows from the beginning of his posts. But, Alice in Wonderland was the first red flag. RepoMen was the second red flag. And this one at the beginning was a HUGE red flag about this guy and his lack of being an enthuse and as a critic. Instead being a douche to his fans for correcting him on an obvious error.
By the way, Repoman the Genetic Opera isn't a Rocky Horror Picture Show musical underground cult knock off. It's a classic and I would have guessed someone like Bob would have praised the classic rather than the rehashed Hollywood bullshit. But I digress.... Bob lost a fan here too.

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Echo136

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SpaceSpork said:
Look, we're not angry because Repo: The Genetic Opera was really good, we're angry because whoever the fuck came up with the title was blatantly stupid enough to add the word Repo to the title of a movie that's ripping off the same general premise as another movie with Repo in it. Quality isn't the problem: plagarism is.
Actually, I think its pretty stupid to be mad that the names are similar. Its like the people who were mad that Repomen wasnt a sequel to Repoman from the 80s. Really? Its petty.
 

JihadMatt

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Repo! wasn't a classic. I don't even consider it "Obscure" or the least bit "underground". It cost like 8 Million to make, and was distributed by Lionsgate (lulz). So Repo! was not the least bit 'obscure' or anything like that. It was however, realeased in only a few areas, poorly reviewed, and didn't make anywhere near what it cost to make.

I liked the premise. The premise worked with the 'Rocky Horror picture show' type atmosphere. Made it all a joke. And from that aspect. the Premise worked. However, the singing, "acting", and overall everything else that makes it a movie... well... sucked. That said. Repo had better acting... and everything else just sucked. Trying to turn a very 'absurd' idea into a very serious idea... Well it just doesn't work. It would be like someone trying to take "Mr Bean Goes to ______" and trying to make it some ultra serious sci-fi movie with some moral point that has been milked beyond dry. Weird Image. sorry.

As for Repo! and Repo Men being the same... Those comments really should be termed "SIMPSONS DID IT" comments. I mean. Monty Python's "Live Organ Donor" bit. I guess Repo! and Repo Men shamelessly ripped that off. While Repo men also ripped off Repo Man. (in name alone. Since people are complaining about similar names)

As for Bob's review... I liked Hot Tub Time Machine. Sometimes, people just like 'low brow humor'. Sometimes, I just need a laugh that doesn't require thought. I don't always agree with Bob. Frankly, i don't always agree with everyone on everything. But I find Bob's point of view interesting. Same with when I watch ZP... I certainly don't get on the internet to hear people agree with me.
 

dartkun

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Khitten said:
Loop Stricken said:
[HEADING=1]"Zydrate comes in a little glass vial..."[/HEADING]
[HEADING=2]"A little glass vial?"[/HEADING]
[HEADING=1]"A LITTLE GLASS VIAL!"[/HEADING]

And just saying, Repo! was unique, it fits in the niche of geek and goth. Which I imagined MB to like. My wondering if he likes any musical, I mean it might not be his thing.

Personally like musicals, mainly the unique ones like Dr. Horrible.(Awesome movie!) And I thought the music was on par.

Wouldn't say MB lost a fan here, but somehow I REALLY DOUBT he watched Repo!
 

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Assuredly, this movie looks like I would hate it... thoroughly.

This is only compounded by the non-existent review of its form and content. "Comedies are review proof," sounds more like a cop out than actual reasoning to say the same thing over and over again. If your usual formula does not work to review a movie I would recommend one of two things - 'Break your formula,' or 'review something else.'

Warriors of virtue was a good movie to 1997 me, and I shall leave my previous experience of that title as that - a memory.

Back to the future shall receive the same treatment. However, I think that another COULD be done - but we will need to wait for every person attached to the movie to either age out of cognition or perish. The 'jigga' joke, regardless, will be in need of suppression.
 

SpaceSpork

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Echo136 said:
Actually, I think its pretty stupid to be mad that the names are similar. Its like the people who were mad that Repomen wasnt a sequel to Repoman from the 80s. Really? Its petty.
I think that that the people who were making a movie about people taking lungs and shit from other people with 'Repo' in the title should have researched a bit, and found that there was a movie about people taking lungs and shit from other people with 'Repo' in the title. That's all I'm sayin'.