Escape to the Movies: John Carter
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Well, I'd have to say that okay is better than most of the crap that gets into theaters, so that's definitely a plus...
It sounds like its more the fault of internet nerds and film critics then general audiences that helped mess up the story. Both of the former groups seem to want everything to have a reason and are unhappy with the general "It just happens, live it it" excuse where as general audiences don't care.
Funny, Yahtze just did a column about adaptations. Worth reading.
He finds a movie adaptation works best when it is about a shorter idea that the movie can expand. Difficult, not impossible, to make a good movie out of a longer work, but you have to leave things out.
I read the G-dfather: 1/2 of it was about that guy that was like Frank Sinatra, who has like 2 min. on film.
He finds a movie adaptation works best when it is about a shorter idea that the movie can expand. Difficult, not impossible, to make a good movie out of a longer work, but you have to leave things out.
I read the G-dfather: 1/2 of it was about that guy that was like Frank Sinatra, who has like 2 min. on film.
You're using the smiley faces a lot more these days. Which is fine of course, but they lack the distinction of your Big Picture cutouts.MovieBob said:
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Yes, but an adaptation should either still embrace the core theme/idea/tone of the film, or subvert/deconstruct it in a creative way. But taking an established classic and forcing it into the mould of generic, paint-by-numbers 21st century action movie that will be forgotten in a few months--how is that form of adaptation any less lazy than making no changes at all?moviedork said:
I for one am sick of the self-loathing, self-interested hero with a tragic past who Refuses the Call until he doesn't. Why can't we have a few guys who fight evil because it's the right thing to do, or because it's actually fun, or even because it's their job?
I feel john carter being made now, in this kind of hollywood, isn't the best idea. But i will give it this, not being bad might be good enough. This is a movie that has been wanted since the invention of feature length movies and most stuff like that gets bought by a studio and turned into something horrible. That this one isn't something totally offensive and that it's getting a major theatre release is a positive.
This is something that the great filmmakers of the future will look back on and want to remake correctly. and hopefully the Hollywood bias against superhero sci-fi will have passed by then.
This is something that the great filmmakers of the future will look back on and want to remake correctly. and hopefully the Hollywood bias against superhero sci-fi will have passed by then.
Can't say the AC3 image really appealed to me.
Oh don't get me wrong, I think it's awesome that it's taking place during the American Revolution which has rarely been given light in a non-strategy game mechanic and I have no issue with that.
No, my issue is with the character design. The artwork could have easily been "Create a colonial era assassin" and instead they went with "take the same damn character as before but slap on some colonial era trinkets for show".
I mean really, look at him. Do you think that the button breast on his coat and blue cloth pinned on the coat tails is going to disguise him?
Oh don't get me wrong, I think it's awesome that it's taking place during the American Revolution which has rarely been given light in a non-strategy game mechanic and I have no issue with that.
No, my issue is with the character design. The artwork could have easily been "Create a colonial era assassin" and instead they went with "take the same damn character as before but slap on some colonial era trinkets for show".
I mean really, look at him. Do you think that the button breast on his coat and blue cloth pinned on the coat tails is going to disguise him?
The Guardian's critic gave it 1 star. So Bob has been quite generous.
Although The Guardian's critic also gave The Artist a very good score, so what does he know?
I find Bob to be hit and miss with regards to my own personal taste. Some films he rates highly I find to be utter trash and others I find to be spot on.
But then, how dull would life be if we all had the same taste and opinions?
Although The Guardian's critic also gave The Artist a very good score, so what does he know?
I find Bob to be hit and miss with regards to my own personal taste. Some films he rates highly I find to be utter trash and others I find to be spot on.
But then, how dull would life be if we all had the same taste and opinions?
I just noticed there was a straight to video production of this in 2009 as well. Princess of Mars.
Wonder if that cheaper B prod movie is more true to books, but from the iMDB description it seems even more messed up.
Wonder if that cheaper B prod movie is more true to books, but from the iMDB description it seems even more messed up.
strange... i hated the princess in this movie and much prefered the green thark women, although she did always get the bad end of the stick (tortued once and captured once for what the two main people did)
The flash gordon approach would have still been a failure. This movie never stood a chance it's just too evident of it's timeline. It would be like modernizing double indemnity. Its better just to make something new in spirit rather than revive something technically obscure.
