Escape to the Movies: Les Miserables

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Bazaalmon

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First off, I don't have a problem with Bob's accent. I can understand if some people do, but some of the vitriol seems like a bit of an overreaction. That said, my girlfriend's family saw Les Miserables, and I decided to take a miss and go hang out with a friend instead. Her mother thought it sucked, she thought it was OK, and her teenage sister-who's the head of the theater group at her high school-thinks it was the greatest thing ever created by man. Although all three loved the Hobbit. So there you go.
 

lord.jeff

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I agree with your points, except the cinematography I that the movie looked great, you made but much like if a comedy makes you laugh you can over look other elements and have a enjoyable time the same goes for music numbers in musicals and the musical numbers are great here. Not saying it's a great movie but it's enjoyable.
 

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saintdane05 said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Okay, Okay you weren't just being ahltunative. You really don' like this movie do you.
Can't say I'd like the idea of a constantly sung movie either, especially since I've seen one of the old black and white versions (not sure which but it was one of the American ones)
Andrew Siribohdi said:
But I thought Russell Crowe was miscast as Javert.
If anything he should be the one to play Jean Valjean.
If anything, he shouldn't be in the movie.
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THAT is how you perform Jarvert.

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Here's the whole concert. Guess the guys like it up on youtube or something.
I don't want to sound like a dick, but that is a concert. Stage acting is so much more than standing in one spot singing, and that can hardly be used as an example of how to perform.
 

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The film aside, how does Batman of all things constitute legal absolutism? He definitely adheres to moral absolutism, but legal absolutism takes things a little too far. Batman's entire image, after all, was created because pretty much everything he does is illegal.
 

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foxtrot3100 said:
Damnit Bob, pick an accent and stick w/ it! This back and forth shit within the same review hurts my ears.
My exact thoughts. I have nothing against his natural accent, I'd much prefer he just be honest and let those who hate it adjust :p.

the switching hurts my brain.
 

Keela

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I saw this movie with my vocal coach and we both enjoyed it.
I am a very patient moviegoer; I can watch any of the Lord of the Rings extended cuts in one sitting and barely noticing their immense length.
I connect very emotionally with music, more so than any other medium. I would guess that that is why I had such an easy time connecting with the characters and their struggles, although more development of the young'ns would've been nice.
I did, however, dislike the whole love-at-first-sight crap, but what else is new? I've always hated that angle.

Why is everyone hating on Russel Crowe? I thought he was fine. Or was I reading an apathetic performance as a nice representation of his character's inner conflict of doing things he finds morally questionable in service of the unbendable sense of justice he has depended on his entire life?
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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Wow, I can't decide what makes me hate Bob more. This review, or his openion on ME3.

I for one absolutely loved this movie. I'm a french history lover for starters, and I'm not easily confused. "Juggiling" all of those diffirent stories was as easy as shit for me, and I have a fucking horrid attention span. The movie didn't feel long to me either, I had hardly noticed that 3 hours had passed by the time I'd sat in the theatre. For the most part, I loved the singing, and I actually think it helped me keep track of the movie more so than a non-musical would have. I love music, and it's for more fun to listen to than a bland conversation. And I think it almost necisary to keep people's attention with a movie as long as that. When I went to see the hobbit last week, I could barely keep myself listening.

I actually didn't mind Russel Crowe after hearing him sing for a few minutes. At first it really bugged me though.

I loved the story, and I loved the emotion they were able to convey with song, rather than monologue or conversation. Yeah, you couldn't go that deep into characters that way, but why must we know every godforsaken emotional detail about every character? Do you even realise how boring that would be? Believe me, as a guy that writes a lot, I know how people react when you go too deep into characters, sometimes you have to get to the point.
 

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I was entirely prepared to dragged along to the theater with a female friend because I'd read the original and thought it was actually kind of ok. I didn't know about the actual songs till I had come here. Based upon Bob's criticisms, I'd say that the songs themselves don't carry the film to an acceptable extent - then again, I've never experienced the adaptation this adaptation is adapting, so I don't know what I should be expecting. From a point of comparison between this and the original based off of what I know about both instances, I don't think seeing the movie would be worth it, but that's just me, hence the emphasis upon 1st person singular pronouns.
 

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tbh I prefer the french TV series adaptation with Gerard Depardieu and John Malkovich they released a few years ago rather than this stage-adaptation tripe - seriously, what's with all these musical creations of late? Moulin Rouge sucked people, stop trying to emulate that.
 

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Has everyone forgotten that they already made a good movie that had Liam Neeson and Geoffrey Rush?
 

DuxNormanorum

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Skyweir: Actually, the movie hews closer to the novel on all those points. Eponine WAS less sympathetic in the book. Sure, she wasn't as bad as her parents were, but she was hardly the tragic heroine the musical transformed her into. Likewise, Valjean was a saintly figure, a violent and brutal robber transformed into something beautiful: "A benevolent malefactor, merciful, gentle, helpful, clement, a convict, returning good for evil, giving back pardon for hatred, preferring pity to vengeance, preferring to ruin himself rather than to ruin his enemy, saving him who had smitten him, kneeling on the heights of virtue, more nearly akin to an angel than to a man." Hugo was using him to demonstrate to his readers that a criminal could be changed through love and forgiveness, rather than hard labor and harsh imprisonment, and could even possibly become better than the ostensible agents of the law.

As for Javert, he's not a particularly tragic figure in the book, and I was glad that the musical tried to implement a few scenes from the novel to reflect that (the part where he demands punishment for himself from Mr. Madeleine for reporting him to the police as an escaped convict being but one example). He's pitiful, yes, but he's not very sympathetic at all. He doesn't believe in good or evil, only the law and lawbreakers, and it is his own lack of compassion and mercy that ultimately brings about Fantine's death - and, in the end, his own.
 

PedroSteckecilo

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As a fan of the Musical... I agree... this was pretty crummy, Les Mis is about GRAND songs, not sticking the camera up the nose's of the actors and just... sitting there. Also the actors constantly flub notes, sing off key and just deliver horrid performances. I know they're going for "raw" but the stage version of Les Mis was always about polish so going for a "raw intimate" feeling is kind of bonkers to me.
 

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Mr.Tea said:
I'm already biased since I fucking hate... nah, what's stronger than hate? Oh, I megaloathe musicals. But seriously, why couldn't they make a real movie with this?

And then it had to star Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman... I don't think they could have made this film less appealing to me.

Edit: OH! And then there's having to listen to anglophones keep pronouncing French names... Oh how much better it (and indeed any movie) would have been with Cristoph Waltz.
I may have been ninja'd on this, but they already did a non-singing version with Liam Neeson as Valjean and Geoffrey Rush as Javert. Very cool film.
 

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I hate musicals. Les Miserables in particular.

However I loved the movie with Liam Neeson, Geoffrey Rush, Claire Danes, and Uma Thurman. I think it was one of Rush's best performances, but these days that just means its better than House on Haunted Hill and the Pirates movies which isn't saying much.
 

ZippyDSMlee

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Heres the thing, its a 2+ hour music video with disjointed abstract story telling through music videos.... Its like trying to review anime when all you have seen are modern cartoons from the Disney channel. Bob dose his best to try and interrupt it as a film and dose well at it since it dose suck as a film... as a music video not so much.
 

Okysho

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Hollywood hasn't exactly had the best track record when it comes to making film adaptations of "popular musicals". Especially in the last 5-10 years.

Phantom of the Opera - starred Gerard butler (That's right King Leonidas) and he couldn't sing to save his life.

Sweeny Todd - starred Johnny Depp's Jack Sparrow voice sans beard, but granted he can actually sing and it was a Tim Butron film, but that doesn't excuse it.

Mamma Mia - a cute pet project for the MUSICAL THEATRE that did a tad better than everyone supposed. Hollywood picked up on that, had James Bond make our ears bleed (Pierce Brosnan) and some sort of Oscar for Meryl Streep (again) but it wasn't as bad as it's bastardized child...

Accross the Universe - No... just... no leave the beatles alone. It's fanbase within the dramatic arts community was even worse than the film.

And of course now Les Miserables, casted by people who have to do Falcetto to sing Bari parts?! Close ups for an entire 5 minute solo? I'm sorry, but the original cast anniversary edition was better put together...

How many more good musicals must we lose to the hollywood monster?!

Oh wait... I guess they've already killed all the really big-named ones...
 

Aircross

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I went into the movie theater expecting the movie version of Les Misérables to be an even mix between Theater Performance and Movie Magic.

The "movie" was almost all theater though.

I agree with Bob, more could have been done besides just hanging the camera in front of the singer's face for their entire performance. More shots would have made the movie more interesting as a single extremely long shot tends to slow down the movie's momentum.
 

Funcakes

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I call this movie: 'Uncomfortable close ups."

Seriously, there's something other than peoples faces. There's something called body language and composition.

I love musicals. I enjoyed the play version. Honestly, I would have been happy with a theatrical release with all of Bob's criticisms if the movie had been shot well. But it was not shot well. The cinematography was horrible. Half the movie is someone staring into a camera so close you can see their pores as they sing. The amount of jarring cuts between characters faces while their literally 5 feet from each other was infuriating.


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Also that 'smack' sound effect was hilarious.
 

Terragent

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Not that I really care for the movie, but Bob: Les Miserable is not set during the first French Revolution in the 18th century; it's set during the June rebellion, nearly half a century later. This should not be a difficult fact to check.