Escape to the Movies: Lucy - It's Almost a Black Widow Movie
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are you joking? The Rock would be PERFECT as Shazam. He has the muscle bound super hero look down but can also bring a naive child like wonder to the part. The only other actor that could do it would be Chris Pratt
as for Black Widow... ehhh her own movie wouldn't be that interesting, I mean she's an assasin ok neat. I would rather have Ms Marvel as the first Marvel Female Superhero to get her own movie.
as for Black Widow... ehhh her own movie wouldn't be that interesting, I mean she's an assasin ok neat. I would rather have Ms Marvel as the first Marvel Female Superhero to get her own movie.
I think 10% mainly annoys people not because it's false but because of the things associated with it. It's not that the handwaved the science, but the memories that specific handwave of a phrase brings up.
"Uses 10% of your brain" is pretty well connected in my mind (And probably others) as an excuse for hacks to peddle quackery under the guise of real science - For example that "What the bleep do we know?" movie however long ago. It's a statement known to be false but regularly used by people who legitimately are trying to convince others that it's true, which means it automatically gets a negative response.
So yeah: Not that it's false and known to be false, but that it's false yet still frequently believed to be true.
"Uses 10% of your brain" is pretty well connected in my mind (And probably others) as an excuse for hacks to peddle quackery under the guise of real science - For example that "What the bleep do we know?" movie however long ago. It's a statement known to be false but regularly used by people who legitimately are trying to convince others that it's true, which means it automatically gets a negative response.
So yeah: Not that it's false and known to be false, but that it's false yet still frequently believed to be true.
Given Besson's track record of late, I'm both surprised and very, very glad that this didn't turn out to be shit. Hopefully it'll do well and convince people that a female-fronted superhero movie actually can work.
And for what it's worth, I enjoyed Hercules. Went to a press screening on Wednesday, and while it's no kind of masterpiece, it's a solid, entertaining summer action movie. I was honestly surprised that it wasn't the subject of this week's video.
And for what it's worth, I enjoyed Hercules. Went to a press screening on Wednesday, and while it's no kind of masterpiece, it's a solid, entertaining summer action movie. I was honestly surprised that it wasn't the subject of this week's video.
People who tought rationalism and science alone would take us to the singularity thing all died or do not believe it anymore because of world war I and world war II. Science made it easier to kill us and use weapons that without knowledge would not exist at all.
See the crisis of positivism and rationalism.
See the crisis of positivism and rationalism.
So, just out of interest (because I admittedly did not know that what I'd been told about this several times was untrue until relatively recently), how did the myth start? And, as we apparently know it to be completely flase, how much of our brain power ARE we actually using on a day to day basis?Falterfire said:
EDIT: It also occurs to me that the premise of Lucy, as described by this review, is in broad strokes no different from that of River Tam in Firefly, and I don't remember anybody ever bitching about that...
Hey Bob? For all that talk about Knowledge being good and all, are you completely forgetting the fact that the further her powers get, the less empathetic Lucy gets and how little concern she has about randomly killing people?
She killed a taxi driver just cause he didn't speak English for fuck's sake!
She killed a taxi driver just cause he didn't speak English for fuck's sake!
I feel like the problem with the 10% of your brain myth isn't that it's patently false, it's that it has been so overused by now. The examples of the dinosaur DNA from amber and the Stargate ring false because they were fresh and inventive. Falling back on the widely disproved 10% myth at this point just feels like lazy screenwriting.
The other big problem with the film is the weird almost racist and sexist vibes I got from the trailer. Yeah, it's exciting to see a female led pseudo-superhero movie. But her origin story is that something was done to her against her will, and she had to survive the trauma in order to obtain her powers. It's practically the same as the overused strong rape survivor cliche.
And also, for all her so called enlightenment, there's that weird moment in the trailer where upon finding out the Asian man speaks no English, she shoots him. Because apparently him being of no use to her at all makes him unworthy of living. Kind of a weird message to send. And finally there's the Chinese text on the walls, which is just made up of random words. That's a language that is used by a huge percentage of the population, reduced to meaningless set dressing. Imagine how jarring it would be to just see English words like 'apple' and 'box' written large on a wall in a film. There's pretty much zero difference here.
The other big problem with the film is the weird almost racist and sexist vibes I got from the trailer. Yeah, it's exciting to see a female led pseudo-superhero movie. But her origin story is that something was done to her against her will, and she had to survive the trauma in order to obtain her powers. It's practically the same as the overused strong rape survivor cliche.
And also, for all her so called enlightenment, there's that weird moment in the trailer where upon finding out the Asian man speaks no English, she shoots him. Because apparently him being of no use to her at all makes him unworthy of living. Kind of a weird message to send. And finally there's the Chinese text on the walls, which is just made up of random words. That's a language that is used by a huge percentage of the population, reduced to meaningless set dressing. Imagine how jarring it would be to just see English words like 'apple' and 'box' written large on a wall in a film. There's pretty much zero difference here.
Based on this article [http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-people-only-use-10-percent-of-their-brains/] from a website with an official sounding name that quotes official sounding people:NinjaDeathSlap said:
At any given instant you might only be using 10% of your brain, but over the course of the day you'll likely use all of it. It's sorta like how on the job a carpenter is only using 10% of his toolbox at any given point: He may not be using his screwdriver while hammering in a nail not because the screwdriver is useless but because it isn't what he needs to deal with that particular problem.
Also, only 10% are neurons, and neurons are the only part we really understand the function of. You definitely use all the neurons, and removing the other stuff causes the brain to stop working, but the exact details aren't completely understood yet.
The gist of it is that only ~10% of the cells in your brain are active at any given instant to conserve energy, which has been distorted to be "You only use 10% of your Brain". For a more detailed analysis, see here;NinjaDeathSlap said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NubJ2ThK_U
I can't believe it's actually good. I was planning on seeing it next week regardless of the reviews. But now I'm looking forward to it so much. Scarlett Johansson is my favorite actress and Luc Besson is one of my favorite directors. Can't wait for next week now.
And come on Marvel, give us a Black Widow movie.
And come on Marvel, give us a Black Widow movie.
Found the review intersting as always but Bob's last screen has me thinking... Would a black widow movie even work? I know a good movie can be made out of anything but for all her nuance the character is allowed very little range and as one of those connecting elements allowed within multiple different mini-franchises her growth and development would be seriously limited. I know that's a problem for all the characters but they aren't all used as universal multi-verse paste to nearly the same degree...
My problem with the 10% brain thing is not necessarily that it is wrong. It is that it is wrong in a very specific way.
Lets put it this way: Star Gate uses worm holes. Now, all us nerds know that worm holes don't work like that at all. However, one could argue that it is an entry level introduction to the idea of a worm hole. To paraphrase Terry Pratchett, it is an analogy which aids understanding wonderfully while being, strictly speaking, wrong in every possible way.
Science fiction pseudo-science doesn't have to be right. In fact, it can be ridiculously and horribly wrong and still be just fine. But it should lead the viewer to the right questions if they delve deeper. This is how dumb science can still make smart science fiction. It opens the mind to new possibilities.
The 10% brain usage trope does not do that at all. It doesn't raise any interesting questions. If you do go look it up all you find is that it is completely wrong in all the most uninteresting ways. There are no further questions to ask, no more knowledge to seek.
In any case, it wont ruin the movie for me. I just really hate the trope. Looking forward to seeing the movie.
Lets put it this way: Star Gate uses worm holes. Now, all us nerds know that worm holes don't work like that at all. However, one could argue that it is an entry level introduction to the idea of a worm hole. To paraphrase Terry Pratchett, it is an analogy which aids understanding wonderfully while being, strictly speaking, wrong in every possible way.
Science fiction pseudo-science doesn't have to be right. In fact, it can be ridiculously and horribly wrong and still be just fine. But it should lead the viewer to the right questions if they delve deeper. This is how dumb science can still make smart science fiction. It opens the mind to new possibilities.
The 10% brain usage trope does not do that at all. It doesn't raise any interesting questions. If you do go look it up all you find is that it is completely wrong in all the most uninteresting ways. There are no further questions to ask, no more knowledge to seek.
In any case, it wont ruin the movie for me. I just really hate the trope. Looking forward to seeing the movie.
I haven't watched the movie yet, but I assume it's because everything becomes an equation to her. Do the detriments of ending this life outweigh the objective or hinder it in any way? No? Does keeping them alive hinder the objective? Yes? Then proceed.AxelxGabriel said:
Knowledge inherently is neutral, it's the application of said knowledge that can be good or evil. And that's a whole other discussion, lol.