Escape to the Movies: Man of Steel
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I know it's a stock-comment from a stock-does-not-really-care-about-superman-fan, but Superman is still a Boring Invincible Hero.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I will still see the movie, but I do not imagine I will get the same thrill out of it as say the Avengers or Batman.
You know what blatant omnipotent Superman-expy I do like, though? The Sentry. Why? Because the Sentry is fucking insane. Not insane as 'ax-crazy' but insane as 'Oh-my-god-too-many-people-around-me-I'm-going-to-cry-and-go-catatonic'.
Why am I saying this? Because A: Even if this movie proves good, I doubt the sequel will avoid the 'gee what are we going to throw at Superman this time?' problem and B: I fucking hope The Sentry is in Avengers 2 (Oh, I know, he won't be, but it would be an hilarious cameo).
Oh, don't get me wrong, I will still see the movie, but I do not imagine I will get the same thrill out of it as say the Avengers or Batman.
You know what blatant omnipotent Superman-expy I do like, though? The Sentry. Why? Because the Sentry is fucking insane. Not insane as 'ax-crazy' but insane as 'Oh-my-god-too-many-people-around-me-I'm-going-to-cry-and-go-catatonic'.
Why am I saying this? Because A: Even if this movie proves good, I doubt the sequel will avoid the 'gee what are we going to throw at Superman this time?' problem and B: I fucking hope The Sentry is in Avengers 2 (Oh, I know, he won't be, but it would be an hilarious cameo).
..How are these two things 'bad'? How do they relevantly affect the character in any way? What, power-girl revolves around her boobs? Really?misterprickly said:
What makes the Green Lantern an interesting character is his sexuality? Really? It's not being an interplanetary space-police? Or kicking ass with the most powerful-weapon in the universe? No, it's about that he kisses dudes?
What..The..Actual..Fuck?
I sincerely hope I have misinterpreted your intentions.
So MovieBob thinks it's Meh...Awesome!
I learned a long time ago that when it comes to Moviebob, he has this weird thing going on that any movie he thinks is Meh usually turns out to be Awesome (Christopher Nolan's Batman, new Star Trek series), and what ever he thinks is Awesome is usually just Meh (The Avengers and all the movies building up to it, Spiderman series).
Great to hear the movie is Awesome Bob...Thanks!
I learned a long time ago that when it comes to Moviebob, he has this weird thing going on that any movie he thinks is Meh usually turns out to be Awesome (Christopher Nolan's Batman, new Star Trek series), and what ever he thinks is Awesome is usually just Meh (The Avengers and all the movies building up to it, Spiderman series).
Great to hear the movie is Awesome Bob...Thanks!
Bob was the one person I was expecting to gush about the movie, but it definitely puts those other negative reviews from non-geeky critics into perspective a bit more (didn't hurt that he explained some more plot details that are unique to this reboot than other critics who's main point of focus seemed to be that it wasn't as fun as the original Reeves movies).
I really thought they were going to go the Jesus route but I shouldn't know they weren't after Zod was the villain. The first movie would've been about getting people to accept him by performing miracles and passive aggressively fighting overly suspicious haters like Lex Luthor (and I guess the military) by showing that he was truly good, THEN you bring in Zod in the sequel to ask "Why bother?" and see where that goes from there.
Anyway, wonder what this means for DC's Justice League plans. Will it all really start with the Batman reboot?
I really thought they were going to go the Jesus route but I shouldn't know they weren't after Zod was the villain. The first movie would've been about getting people to accept him by performing miracles and passive aggressively fighting overly suspicious haters like Lex Luthor (and I guess the military) by showing that he was truly good, THEN you bring in Zod in the sequel to ask "Why bother?" and see where that goes from there.
Anyway, wonder what this means for DC's Justice League plans. Will it all really start with the Batman reboot?
I'm a Superman fan and I fucking loved it. He didn't feel like a nineties anti-hero, he felt like a nice guy who happens to have to ability to fly. He's serious, but not dark and edgy; his most brooding period is as a teenager and don't most teenagers have enough problems without dangerous super-powers manifesting? And he does have some fun. Hell, did you see the look on his face during his first flying scene?
Honestly, it's a better Superman film the 1978 and a damn good lead in to a shared DC universe.
Honestly, it's a better Superman film the 1978 and a damn good lead in to a shared DC universe.
The deep psychological scar from watching his parents murdered in front of him. It is both his motivation to stop crime as well as the reason he cannot form any meaningful long lasting relationships and like to brood alone. This is also the reason he does not use guns and locks criminals up that are too dangerous to let live such as the Joker. Batman knows that the Joker will escape again and that he will kill more people yet he still holds out some hope that he can be cured or controlled.Falseprophet said:
And her boobs are now so important for her character that..It's scandalous that she covers them up? Oh my god, it sounds like a really bad DC in-joke. What's next? Penisman? And we can't cover up his enormous bulge because that would be hurting his character (since every super-villain is too busy making sausage-jokes to fight properly).misterprickly said:
It doesn't really hurt the Green Lanter character either, you know. Jown Stewart, Guy Gardner, Hal Jordan, Kyle Rayner (Okey, I can't spell his name)..Oh my god, one is black! And one is an artist liberal! It doesn't ADD anything to the character!
Geeze. So what?
I totally agree with you that there is zero chemistry in the romantic story. Which does detract from the movie.
A good review Bob very accurate but I would say that as a non superman fan that it is well worth a look.
A good review Bob very accurate but I would say that as a non superman fan that it is well worth a look.
Man of Steel is the Dragonball Z movie I wanted when I was 14. Seriously. There is so much yelling, snarling and powering up that it fits. About midway through the film there is a shot for shot scene used in the opening credits for the American translation.
The first half of the film made me more disappointed with Green Lantern. The GL film couldn't do alien culture half as well as Man of Steel did, using much more money.
Is the film enjoyable, oh hell yes. Is it smart? Not really at all. It's not on the riding on the short bus dumb, it's the angry kid sticking pins through the top layer of skin to seem tough dumb.
ED: Also as a first post from a lurker, captcha was "in the club" Classy.
The first half of the film made me more disappointed with Green Lantern. The GL film couldn't do alien culture half as well as Man of Steel did, using much more money.
Is the film enjoyable, oh hell yes. Is it smart? Not really at all. It's not on the riding on the short bus dumb, it's the angry kid sticking pins through the top layer of skin to seem tough dumb.
ED: Also as a first post from a lurker, captcha was "in the club" Classy.
Keep your eyes out for the Lex Corp tanker truck. I chuckled when Supes got smashed into it.
I loved the film. Sure it has some plot holes, but the plot holes don't ruin the film like Star Trek Into Darkness.
I loved the film. Sure it has some plot holes, but the plot holes don't ruin the film like Star Trek Into Darkness.
Meh of Steel. Amiright?
I do admit, how come DC has SUCH a damn hard time making movies about their characters, doing so in ways that show they're almost ASHAMED of the fun, joy, creativity, and wackiness that put them on the map, whereas Marvel embraces their comic books and proudly translates the fun of superheroes to their films?
Or, to pull a Nolan Joker on them, Why is Superman so Serious?
I do admit, how come DC has SUCH a damn hard time making movies about their characters, doing so in ways that show they're almost ASHAMED of the fun, joy, creativity, and wackiness that put them on the map, whereas Marvel embraces their comic books and proudly translates the fun of superheroes to their films?
Or, to pull a Nolan Joker on them, Why is Superman so Serious?
You despise someone because his main goal is to protect the place he calls home from the people that would sooner turn it into a wasteland or slave pit? Huh.Vale said:
In all seriousness though, I do honestly miss the days when a superhero movie like Superman could have the character willing to have fun with his powers and just be willing to have SOME degree of camp. It's why I like Superman: Secret Identity. Clark discovers his powers at a young age and what's the first thing he does? "Holy crap, I can fly! I'm just like Superman!" *flies all around with an expression of pure, unbridled joy* Then we get a few scenes of him testing out his powers and then he starts following the trend of the comics he reads because he also was raised to do the right thing.
I do have to see this because the fight scenes look exactly like what I have always wanted to see in a big superhero fight. Just seems like this one is one to try and enjoy. Though that's what I said about Green Lantern.
misterprickly said:
"You don't get it, and you can't get it, and people like you make bad stuff happen' - Really?
Wow. Stunning argument.
Alright, carry on.