Escape to the Movies: Oz the Great and Powerful
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Who's Afraid of the Red, Yellow and Blue? Oh, no, wait... That's a different fairy tale.Keith K said:
I liked the movie fine thought it played to the whole 3d schtick a bit too much though. But then again I suppose its a kids movie.
That would be my only real criticism. Oh and ******SPOILER ALERT ***** the lame ass gift-giving ceremony at the end.
Poor enough ending.
That would be my only real criticism. Oh and ******SPOILER ALERT ***** the lame ass gift-giving ceremony at the end.
Poor enough ending.
So that's why the voice in my head want to watch a movie...
I was kind of concerned about the whole 'Oz' thing, but Sam Raimi knows what he is doing... despite the evidence of Spider-Man 3
I was kind of concerned about the whole 'Oz' thing, but Sam Raimi knows what he is doing... despite the evidence of Spider-Man 3
Oz Great and Powerful Copyright Lawyers could also be the film's title, was a story that they could not use the same shade of green used in the original Wizard of Oz movie: http://blogs.crikey.com.au/cinetology/2013/03/10/we%E2%80%99re-off-to-see-the-lawyers-the-wonderful-lawyers-of-oz-because-because-because/
The original series of books is in the public domain now, but it is hard to make a new version without being influenced by the movie. There are 40+ Oz books, some with very little to do with the original story (Stephen King even had a go.)
I do remember reading the story in primary school, there was a whole extra section of how Dorothy escaped Oz after killing the Wicked Witch of the West.
I remember watching the 1985 Return to Oz movie also by Disney, was very dark.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089908/
Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipivUGVydMY
The original series of books is in the public domain now, but it is hard to make a new version without being influenced by the movie. There are 40+ Oz books, some with very little to do with the original story (Stephen King even had a go.)
I do remember reading the story in primary school, there was a whole extra section of how Dorothy escaped Oz after killing the Wicked Witch of the West.
I remember watching the 1985 Return to Oz movie also by Disney, was very dark.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089908/
Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipivUGVydMY
"Unreservedly recommended", Bob says.
Funny. I haven't had such an unpleasant taste in my throat since Alice in Wonderland. Okay, not specifically true, but it put me strictly in mind of that particular waste of life most prominently, so I'm going to harp on it. How the hell are you not railing on this, Bob? Is it just the first half, where most of the Raimi aesthetic is apparent, and the handful of scenes with a blissfully and tragically abused Mila Kunis having all the "Gasp, he's swooning over everyone! Oh Noes!" scenes that blurred your vision, or do you just enjoy letting tasteless and bland second halfs completely wash over you? Sure, it's all coherent, but that's about the best I can give it.
Original dynamic intact? Seriously? When ALL of the female leads start quivering at the knees when the misogynistic mook of a con-man comes in with charm and plays all of them right off the bat? "Behold, our great and wonderous mag--ooh, look James Franco, guess it's time to swoon!" Yeah, they still have all the power, but now it's used almost entirely to the benefit of his character, whether supporting him when he falls (literally, even!), or helping to shape him so that he can have a crisis of character and become a better man? As opposed to the old dynamic, of Oz being just short of an antagonist but full on hindrance in his quest for more power where he had to trick a helpless, know-nothing, hapless child (who more or less stumbled into victory) because he had no sway whatsoever? Yeah, that's intact, sure enough.
Did enjoy the Little China Girl, though, and I'd like for her to have a name, if only this wasn't Oz, where practically no one gets names beyond a mild description.
, instead of having that be the clue. Shame, really.
Funny. I haven't had such an unpleasant taste in my throat since Alice in Wonderland. Okay, not specifically true, but it put me strictly in mind of that particular waste of life most prominently, so I'm going to harp on it. How the hell are you not railing on this, Bob? Is it just the first half, where most of the Raimi aesthetic is apparent, and the handful of scenes with a blissfully and tragically abused Mila Kunis having all the "Gasp, he's swooning over everyone! Oh Noes!" scenes that blurred your vision, or do you just enjoy letting tasteless and bland second halfs completely wash over you? Sure, it's all coherent, but that's about the best I can give it.
Original dynamic intact? Seriously? When ALL of the female leads start quivering at the knees when the misogynistic mook of a con-man comes in with charm and plays all of them right off the bat? "Behold, our great and wonderous mag--ooh, look James Franco, guess it's time to swoon!" Yeah, they still have all the power, but now it's used almost entirely to the benefit of his character, whether supporting him when he falls (literally, even!), or helping to shape him so that he can have a crisis of character and become a better man? As opposed to the old dynamic, of Oz being just short of an antagonist but full on hindrance in his quest for more power where he had to trick a helpless, know-nothing, hapless child (who more or less stumbled into victory) because he had no sway whatsoever? Yeah, that's intact, sure enough.
Did enjoy the Little China Girl, though, and I'd like for her to have a name, if only this wasn't Oz, where practically no one gets names beyond a mild description.
You know, I really would have liked that better had they not immediately jumped the gun on it, but let it play out a little more, maybe draw out the transformation over more than about two seconds, and maybe kept us guessing that it wouldn't beSnownine said:
the actress who has received all of Hollywood's attention lately
Huh... I wasn't planning to see this, but MovieBob makes it sound pretty interesting, so I might just give it a chance! (As long as I can find a place showing it in 2D; no sense in paying extra to get a headache) 
Also, I'm a bit confused/surprised that he expressed a wish that it had more musical numbers; that doesn't seem like it would normally be Bob's thing.
Also, I'm a bit confused/surprised that he expressed a wish that it had more musical numbers; that doesn't seem like it would normally be Bob's thing.
He addresses this in the video, admitting that the female leads are the ones moving the story forward and wielding the power... and I'm not seeing how Oz nearly destroyed a nation. Trying to avoid spoilers as much as possible the "nation" I'm assuming you're referring to is already destroyed and the citizens are either refugees or living in fear. While the original MGM movie and Wicked focussed on female characters the source material (the books) ran the gamut of protagonists from female to male to animal to robot. The Wizard is essential to the entire series and the story of how he came to Oz was handled very well (IMO, your mileage may vary) and in keeping with the aesthetic and morality of both the books and the Judy Garland movie (with hints of Old-School Burton and Raimi). And OZ at the beginning of the movie is a TERRIBLE person, it's only because of the female characters that he is essentially shamed into becoming a hero. This movie is as much about Glinda influencing events as the Wizard of Oz was, and GLinda actually takes a more active hand in this one.Skyweir said:
I saw it last night, and I honestly admit that I left the theater pretty angry. I found the entire film to be very disappointing. I don't think the actors were handled very well and I couldn't believe the delivery of any of their lines.
But as I read through the comments just now, I was reminded that when all things are said and done this is a film for children. For kids, I think it's imaginative, scary, and probably a heck of a lot funnier than I found it to be. I guess I keep forgetting that my age is not the target audience anymore.
But as I read through the comments just now, I was reminded that when all things are said and done this is a film for children. For kids, I think it's imaginative, scary, and probably a heck of a lot funnier than I found it to be. I guess I keep forgetting that my age is not the target audience anymore.
My questions are these: Does Raimi still include "the Classic" in his movies, and if so, where is it in Oz?
I didn't have very high expectations and enjoyed it. The theater was mostly full on the Friday of the second week which bodes well for the grosses.
I didn't have very high expectations and enjoyed it. The theater was mostly full on the Friday of the second week which bodes well for the grosses.
Because the opinion of a misogynistic hypocrite who once spent a whole video justifying (weakly) that Samus' blatant character rape was totes cool is the best one to go to when judging whether a movie is sexist.
An alternative: http://chezapocalypse.com/oz-the-great-and-powerful-or-get-those-bitches-some-dk-bitches-love-dk/
I await your knee jerk contrarian and inevitably sexist rebutle(s).
An alternative: http://chezapocalypse.com/oz-the-great-and-powerful-or-get-those-bitches-some-dk-bitches-love-dk/
I await your knee jerk contrarian and inevitably sexist rebutle(s).